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#21 DevilMinder

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:55 PM

Sugo was one of my favorite prospects, sorry to see him go. Klee is going to really make a crowded D field. Wonder if Chuck is really hurting...
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:55 PM

Its really a good trade though for both sides. I believe Klee helps us in the short term and the Leafs arent exactly going to contend this year.

Klee shores up our D-line and I expect Lou may pull another deal for a forward before the deadline.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:55 PM

It's been obvious that Suglobov is not in New Jersey's plans. He's been thrown around in so many of my theoretical trades.

This is a perfect defensive upgrade - Klee has some ability to play the PP and is certainly better than Colin White in that spot. Tommy Albelin can now be the perfect 7th defenseman.

A very solid move by Lou Lams.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:56 PM

Suglobov was one of the few trading chips we had. I'd rather we used him to fill a pressing need (scoring!)
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:57 PM

So I guess we've gotten this year's Smehlik trade out of the way. :noclue:


Admins: please feel free to delete my thread, didn't see this one!
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:57 PM

Suglobov was one of the few trading chips we had. I'd rather we used him to fill a pressing need (scoring!)


The Devils were not going to fill that need. If they do now it will be for a lesser player. They really don't have the cap room nor the inclination - that 2nd line is a disaster no matter who they put on it.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 08:58 PM

Found this from TSN: http://www.tsn.ca/nh...nhl-maple_leafs
Assets:Loves to use the body. Plays within his limitations. Is versatile, an excellent presence in the dressing room and the consummate team player.

Flaws :Lacks skating speed and has a tendency to get injured with relative frequency. Was better suited to the pre-lockout NHL than the "new" NHL.

Career potential: No. 5 or 6 defenseman.

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Well I hope he is physical and is a good team player, should fit in then. A little worried about his flaws though. I haven't seen him play much so maybe someone else here can elaborate. I see he is a 5/6 D-Man. So our depth chart is along the lines of:
Rafalski
Matvichuk
White
Martin
Klee
Hale/Albelin
Brown

Correct me if I am wrong please.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:00 PM

I guess they'll send Brown down for good now.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:00 PM

just what we need, another Dman. I don't miss Sluggo cuz, well, we never got to see him play and I'm diggin Ryznar but how about some SCORING??
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:01 PM

If he's willing to shoot from the blue line on power plays,I'm all for it.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:02 PM

Found this from TSN: http://www.tsn.ca/nh...nhl-maple_leafs
Assets:Loves to use the body. Plays within his limitations. Is versatile, an excellent presence in the dressing room and the consummate team player.


typical Lou. The consummate team player part sold this guy i bet.

I'd like to see some more physicality out there. I wonder if Lou is concerned about the bruising flyers again this playoff run?
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:02 PM

It's been obvious that Suglobov is not in New Jersey's plans. He's been thrown around in so many of my theoretical trades.

This is a perfect defensive upgrade - Klee has some ability to play the PP and is certainly better than Colin White in that spot. Tommy Albelin can now be the perfect 7th defenseman.

A very solid move by Lou Lams.


I agree that Suglobov wasn't going to play a big role with the Devils... but neither is Ken Klee!!!

The only thing I can think of here is that Richard Matvichuk is more injured than what the organization is letting on.

I was agreeing with you that Lou was smart enough to realize that this wasn't the year to go for it... keep the youth in the organization and not waste prospects and picks on older players. Well, that's exactly what he did. Is Klee going to be here for a long time? God, I hope not.

Give Ken a dozen games and people here will be dying to have Malkhov back.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:04 PM

:noclue: Leafs fans think they've acquired the next Gretzky apparently, they think Suggy is some incredible prospect.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:04 PM

Alexander Suglobov was never in New Jersey's long-term plans. I have been explaining this on the board all year and I won't go back over it - just search for my name and Suglobov and you'll see why. Snipers who do little else well are really not that valuable for a team like New Jersey. For a team like Toronto that figures to be a mishmash of nonsense for the forseeable future, he will be a good addition. I fully expect 25 goals out of him next season.

This is still a good deal for New Jersey.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:05 PM

I don't know much about Klee...who can enlighten me with a scouting report? I don't mind trading Suglobov because it wasn't meant for him to be here in the long run, but I want to know more about Klee before I call this a good/bad trade.



Klee is kind of like Daneyko with a little more offense. He also makes almost nearly $2 million, and cost one the Devils few deadline trading chips. Pretty inexplicable deal for a team with major scoring issues. I would also guess this means Matvichuk is out for a while.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:05 PM

I agree that Suglobov wasn't going to play a big role with the Devils... but neither is Ken Klee!!!

The only thing I can think of here is that Richard Matvichuk is more injured than what the organization is letting on.


Well I wouldn't doubt Matvichuk's hurt but Lou himself acknowledged his concern when he stated 'you're always concerned when it's any kind of back injury' and I agree. Bryan Berard's been almost useless in Columbus since he hurt his back (barring a several-game cameo in January) - in LATE DECEMBER.

And Petey Suglobov was NEVER going to fetch an NHL second-line player in a trade, not when Lou 'only' got a 9234235-year old defenseman back for him.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:06 PM

How many games have Suglobov played this year for NJ?
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:10 PM

And Petey Suglobov was NEVER going to fetch an NHL second-line player in a trade, not when Lou 'only' got a 9234235-year old defenseman back for him.


This is hindsight - it can't be said that this is true or false. I think Suglobov and a pick could've sprung any number of '2nd line' players - but very few are likely to help us. Guys like Geoff Sanderson and that ilk really aren't going to put us over the top.

I'm hoping Lou's willing to send a 2nd round pick somewhere for some more forward depth but I'm not holding my breath.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:10 PM

RD, then I'd rather see him *here*! This team cries for offense. Giving up one of the few people in the system right now that can score for an ancient dman just does not make sense to me.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 09:11 PM

How many games have Suglobov played this year for NJ?


He has appeared in two games with the Devils over two seasons, scoring one goal.
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