I agree 100%I just dont think you get anything much better for suglobov and both GMs know it. We got what we could for him and that's better than nothing. I think if Lou wanted Witt (and McPhee wasn't asking something outrageous), then lou would have gotten him.
DISCUSSION: KLEE TO DEVILS FOR SUGLOBOV
Started by sykkie15, Mar 08 2006 08:42 PM
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 11:40 AM
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 11:42 AM
A little late to the party...
Klee is a solid citizen. All the Caps fans I've been talking to down here in DC think this is a great trade.
As for Suggy...listen, there have been 1,000 Suggy-types that have gone through the Devils under Lou. How many wingers "should have been given a chance" and then left and then never amounted to anything. In the early 1990s, it was centers like Jason Miller and Skalde. Over the last several years, it's been wingers like Suggy.
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Klee is a solid citizen. All the Caps fans I've been talking to down here in DC think this is a great trade.
As for Suggy...listen, there have been 1,000 Suggy-types that have gone through the Devils under Lou. How many wingers "should have been given a chance" and then left and then never amounted to anything. In the early 1990s, it was centers like Jason Miller and Skalde. Over the last several years, it's been wingers like Suggy.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:22 PM
I won't go into the perceived plusses and minuses of this trade, but I find it kind of funny that the Leafs lose Czerkawki on waivers and then turn around and basically pick up his clone in a trade.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 01:06 PM
A little late to the party...
Klee is a solid citizen. All the Caps fans I've been talking to down here in DC think this is a great trade.
As for Suggy...listen, there have been 1,000 Suggy-types that have gone through the Devils under Lou. How many wingers "should have been given a chance" and then left and then never amounted to anything. In the early 1990s, it was centers like Jason Miller and Skalde. Over the last several years, it's been wingers like Suggy.
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Yeah...this deal reminds me a little bit of the Paul Ysebeart (sp?) for Lee Norwood trade...Ysebeart had a huge offensive year for Utica (something like 50G and 50A, don't have time to look up the exact numbers), but was a defensive liability. Norwood didn't really distinguish himself as a Devil. Ysebeart had a couple of 30+ goal seasons with the Red Wings, then pretty much fizzled out. He never really lived up to expectations.
Devils have had lots of offensive players (minors) go bust or not do much in the NHL...Ysebeart, Kevin Todd, Denis Pederson (he was a scorer in the minors), among others.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.
Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.
It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 02:37 PM
But Carney goes for a mere "future considerations" I guess I'm partial to Carney.. but it bugs me we gave up Sug for Klee now too... but it's better than loosing him for nothing... 
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:28 PM
Klee was # 22 on the Leafs.
What's here for him ? 12, 21 or 27 ???
What's here for him ? 12, 21 or 27 ???
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:46 PM
This move is silly. When have these deadline deal trades for veteran dmen ever worked for lou?
Chambers comes to mind. Helped us in during the cup run, gave up what, semak? Didn't seem like a move to puut us over the top, but Along with broten, fit in well with the team and contributed. The devils always go by the philosphy of get quality players, and if you have enough, someone will step up at the right time.
The Klee trade is a 20 game + playoffs audition to see if we want him next year, while trying to help the team a bit this year. Every defensman was horrible early in the year(I thought too much was blamed on Malakov and McGilllis). Each defensman has been solid lately. AS for our second line, Elias getting healthy helps our second line. Actually, us having a solid fourth line should help us. Lou has brought back a hitting fourth line. Give the team a little spark, don't take penalties. Elias comes back, Marshall to 4'th line, Parise, Kozlov, Brylin. as the second line. Solid 4 lines. Key to the 'new nhl' is the powerplay.
If Klee fits in on the second pp unit and it produces, this trade is a steal. He ends up a healthy scratch every other game, then we havea problem. Probably end up somewhere in the middle.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:51 PM
Remember this insignificant deal in Devils history? The Devils traded 24-year-old Alexander Suglobov who had played one NHL game that season and scored a goal in it. He would go on to play 16 more games in the NHL for the Leafs and never recorded a point. Klee, on the other hand, played 24 uneventful regular season and playoff games combined. No harm. No foul. The thing is with these deals is we never really know who might have been dealt or not. For rentals, teams debate between different prospects, or between a pick or a prospect. Well with this deal we now know. A certain former Toronto Maple Leafs executive was being asked about Clarkson's hot start this year after his 30-goal season. He responded by saying that one of the reasons why he is not an executive anymore is that he had the final say on which Albany River Rats the Leafs wanted in return for Klee. The Devils were offering either Alexander Suglobov or David Clarkson. The rest is history.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:57 PM
I really liked Suglo, saw him in the preseason game at trenton that year. I like Clarkson better though. Nice bump.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:58 PM
wait what?? trading for another Dman?!? i'm hoping these two trades today are setting up another bigger trade...
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:59 PM
Hah, this thread is 5 years old man.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:03 PM
Hah, this thread is 5 years old man.
ahahaha!! wtf?!? i am embarassed.. i did not see it got bumped.
jesus..
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:04 PM
And people in this thread hated the deal for Suglobov...good god if they had taken Clarkson it could have wound up being ten times worse than the Sullivan-Gilmour deal that some people still haven't forgiven Lou for 
Of course Clarkson didn't become what he has been the last two years until DeBoer came, before that people 'here' hated him cause of his contract.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:33 PM
Talk about the Devils getting lucky. Reminds me of the A-Rod-Soriano trade...the Rangers could've had Cano but selected Joaquin Arias instead.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:36 PM
ken klee might be the worst defenseman this team ever had on the roster. he made special needs defenseman kurtis foster look like paul coffey
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:44 PM
Clarkson was an undrafted free agent who had a decent year in Albany but nothing great, and that was his first pro season after an undistinguished overage season in junior. I don't blame him making that choice, but he did screw up.
And boy did I know nothing about hockey in 2006, haha.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:49 PM
. 5? Try 7 years old! Lol.Hah, this thread is 5 years old man.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:13 PM
And boy did I know nothing about hockey in 2006, haha.
25 goals for Suglobov the next season?!
But props for the Fredo quote
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:36 PM
Shocker, Єklund (2.3% accurate) was wrong about that too lolhahah...Єklund (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate):
The Leafs have picked up one d and gotten rid of another...but they did steal Sublogov from NJ...he is a stud, and we are all shocked that Lou gave him up....this leaves Nashville, Vancouver and NJ to fight over Witt...
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:45 PM
Ken Klee. Ugh. The extent of his Kleefense was standing in front of Marty.
The only thing I got out of him was using his last name as my fantasy team's name, like it was a verb.
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