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#121 hmon

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:31 PM

The Devils should leave the MSG Family and start their own network. Arent't they part owners with the YES network?
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:33 PM

The Devils should leave the MSG Family and start their own network. Arent't they part owners with the YES network?


No, they're not part of the YES Network since the Yankee group sold their portion of the team, I believe.

Also, the Devils don't really want to start their own network since they wouldn't have enough things to put on it and they get a gigantic amount of money from MSG for their game rights.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 01:29 AM

No, they're not part of the YES Network since the Yankee group sold their portion of the team, I believe.

Also, the Devils don't really want to start their own network since they wouldn't have enough things to put on it and they get a gigantic amount of money from MSG for their game rights.


What about switching to SNY?
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 02:25 AM

What about switching to SNY?


Well they're under a long term contract with MSG and paid such a big sum of money I don't think SNY would be willing to pay that much anyway.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:49 AM

Now that FiOS is allowed to carry MSG & MSG+ in HD, does anyone know when this will happen?
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:57 AM

Apparently we have to wait for Dolan to die first.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:25 PM

Now that FiOS is allowed to carry MSG & MSG+ in HD, does anyone know when this will happen?


I doubt it will happen. Cablevision will fight this ruling forever. They know damn well that these HD channels are the only thing keeping tens of thousands of subscribers from switching to FiOS.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:30 PM

Now that FiOS is allowed to carry MSG & MSG+ in HD, does anyone know when this will happen?


There's an appeal process for FCC decisions (which I think is 45 days). After the appeal is decided there's likely little that needs to be done short of turning a switch on. Now, I'm not saying that 45 days after the ruling you should get msg HD. Once the appeal is denied (I'm assuming it will) then the wait should be very short. On the FiOS on-screen guide they have already segregated channels for the HD feeds.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:38 PM

There's an appeal process for FCC decisions (which I think is 45 days). After the appeal is decided there's likely little that needs to be done short of turning a switch on. Now, I'm not saying that 45 days after the ruling you should get msg HD. Once the appeal is denied (I'm assuming it will) then the wait should be very short. On the FiOS on-screen guide they have already segregated channels for the HD feeds.

Cool, is anyone aware if they will appeal. If so when did the 45 day period start?
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:58 PM

Cool, is anyone aware if they will appeal. If so when did the 45 day period start?


I'm absolutely positive they will appeal (as will Comcast as the ruling impacts them too). I would be surprised if they didn't appeal already. trying to get some intel on the next steps with the appeal process.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:24 PM

I have FIOS (switched from DirecTV after they lost VS.) and think the quality is right up there with DTV. The HD content (hockey excluded) is also much better. However, Center Ice shows one or two games in HD each day, which is garbage. Some days, there's no HD offered at all. That package would be worth the $180 I pay for it if every day, I could choose between HD home and away feeds for every game, but we're not remotely there yet.

Hopefully, this ruling against the Cockbag Dolans will help speed more Devils HD feeds into my living room, but I'm not holding my breath.


I agree 200%. I could maybe understand this non HD Devils foolishness if it was part of a regular package, but I'm paying above and beyond the regular service. Call me spoiled or crazy, but I should be entitled to every feed available for my team. It's not my fault that MSG has a hair up there butt against the NHL or whatever. I'm just a hockey fan in Louisiana who wants to see his favorite teams home feed in HD.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:04 PM

It's basically based on the bandwidth of the wires or satellite. The higher the bandwidth, the less compressed the image is, & the better it looks. Cable companies are squeezing HD, OnDemand, SD, phone, and internet onto an older cable that can't deliver as much data as newer fiber optic cables. They have to compress their footage more than competitors...which you can notice mostly in bright colors, lights, blacks, and text.

I'm not aware of the bandwidth difference between FiOS and D-TV, but it must be similar. I would assume FiOS has slightly greater bandwidth capabilities than DTV, but I'm not sure. Think USB vs. USB 2.0.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:54 PM

Court OKs TV Rules Opposed by Comcast, Cablevision

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A federal court Friday upheld regulations that require cable TV companies to make sports programming and other channels they own available on equal terms to rival TV providers such as satellite companies.

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Comcast said it was disappointed in Friday's ruling.

''The program access rules are based on an outdated and obsolete view of the competitive landscape,'' Cablevision said in a statement.

DirecTV and Verizon hailed the ruling as a win for consumers.


So hopefully I can watch some playoff hockey in HD.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:42 PM

Still not holding my breath. Where's the court order for the Dolans to throw the switch and export the channel? I'll let you know when it shows up on my piss-poor FIOS Center Ice package.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:56 PM

This is good. How the Dolan's could own a team (Rags), the building they play in (MSG), the channel they are broadcasted on (MSG Network), and the cable distribution (Cablevision) without this considered a monoploy is beyond me.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 10:27 PM

This is good. How the Dolan's could own a team (Rags), the building they play in (MSG), the channel they are broadcasted on (MSG Network), and the cable distribution (Cablevision) without this considered a monoploy is beyond me.

+1 i just want the devils in damn HD for Fios already
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 10:51 PM

Does this also mean that Directv can carry VS now?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:39 AM

It's not MSG HD but FIOS is now showing Comcast Sports net. Which means I can watch the flyers (and maybe) this series in HD. Wasn't this the same issue as MSG? A scary day when Comcast provides the signal faster than Cablevision.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:49 AM

DM - I suspect you'll be watching with the sound off and Matt Loughlin on the radio? I'd almost rather watch in SD with Doc than HD with their PBP.

FiOS has allocated the space for MSG HD but we dont have it yet. I suspect they are dragging their feet a bit through the playoffs in a way to squeeze as much out of this as they can. I am not expecting HDn on FiOS until next season.
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Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:51 PM

Anyone heard anything about FIOS HD MSG ?
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