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#21 eldon

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:49 PM

And Cherry was just saying this wkend. how Smyth was the heard & soul of the Oilers. A guy like him deserved the $ vs. someone like S.Doan (if I remember correctly).
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:49 PM

you really think Garth Snow is making the trades?

you said so you yourself. A 1st = 2nd this year. Robert Nilsson is 22 and while he's scored at Bridgeport, he hasn't done anything at the NHL level yet. Omarra is not that highly touted. Smyth is still in his prime.

I wouldn't have done it, but this trade is not as lopsided as you think.

Smyth is on pace for 40 goals in 69 games this year. The isles are getting a proven goal scorer here.


Huh? You only get 20 games of Ryan Smyth. While a 1st isn't *that* valuable, the Islanders are in the middle of the 1st round where it is slightly more so. Robert Nilsson has struggled to make the NHL - fine. But you just can't deal all three of these assets for 20-30 games of Ryan Smyth, who while he is a top 10 LW in the league, has to get acquainted with his teammates right away. Unless the Islanders re-sign Smyth - it's senseless.

Oh, and the Islanders still need a defense.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:54 PM

Huh? You only get 20 games of Ryan Smyth. While a 1st isn't *that* valuable, the Islanders are in the middle of the 1st round where it is slightly more so. Robert Nilsson has struggled to make the NHL - fine. But you just can't deal all three of these assets for 20-30 games of Ryan Smyth, who while he is a top 10 LW in the league, has to get acquainted with his teammates right away. Unless the Islanders re-sign Smyth - it's senseless.

Oh, and the Islanders still need a defense.


The Isles D isn't bad, and Dipietro has been great. They'll be getting Martinek and Gervais back. The D looks patchwork, but they haven't played that way.

Obviously after a trade like this, you assume they're going to re sign him.

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:55 PM

The Isles D isn't bad, and Dipietro has been great. They'll be getting Martinek and Gervais back. The D looks patchwork, but they haven't played that way.


Look out - everyone's bracing themselves for the return of Martinek and Gervais.

Meanwhile when the Devils get Jason Wiemer and Alex Brooks back, the league's in trouble.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:55 PM

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:08 PM

This is HUGE for the Islanders. Even if it is only a rental until July 1st. I was shocked to hear this trade and Smyth is not a happy camper right now. He will be back in Edmonton after July.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:17 PM

If the Oilers do not bring back Ryan Smyth...this trade is a disgrase...complete disgrase...

I think Oilers fans are starting to get tired of hearing about 'what if's"

Smyth was the face of the franchise and they $hould pony up the $ for him.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:28 PM

Signing a power forward to a long term deal past 31 is usually a bad idea. Just look at Bill Guerin, John LeClair, Kevin Stevens, etc. If they were demanding 5/27.5, I'd make this deal too.

Edmonton can sign any number of guys.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:33 PM

If the Oilers do not bring back Ryan Smyth...this trade is a disgrase...complete disgrase...

I think Oilers fans are starting to get tired of hearing about 'what if's"

Smyth was the face of the franchise and they $hould pony up the $ for him.



Don't worry Smyth will be back in Edmonton after July 1st. He does not want to be an Islander.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:35 PM

Isles basically gave up 3 first round picks. Horrible deal for a rental, robbery for the Oilers.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:37 PM

Hit rumor on Sabres site indicate that the Sabres were very close to landing Smyth but they would not part with Drew Stafford.

Di$$apointing.

Don't worry Smyth will be back in Edmonton after July 1st. He does not want to be an Islander.



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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:43 PM

It has been said that Edmonton will have Smyth on their list come July 1st on XM 204 Hockey Home Ice channel today when the trade went down. They had the owner of Edmonton on talking about the trade.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:46 PM

Smyth going back to Edmonton is crazy talk. He didn't want to get traded. The Oilers slapped him in the face. They gave new deals to Hemsky, Roloson and Horcoff this off season and not Smyth.

Smyth was the face of the franchise and he was insulted. He is not going back to Edmonton.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:48 PM

Good for Edmonton - I'll bet that if Ryan Smyth signs a 5 year deal this offseason, that he scores less than 110 goals in that time.

Smyth has a lot of mileage on him, and while it's a tough thing to cut him loose, they got a solid deal for #94.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:58 PM

I don't think they got that much. The prospects they got will not turn into anything special at all and 1st round draft picks this year have barely any value at all.

I think this is a great deal for the Isles.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:10 PM

Smyth going back to Edmonton is crazy talk. He didn't want to get traded. The Oilers slapped him in the face. They gave new deals to Hemsky, Roloson and Horcoff this off season and not Smyth.

Smyth was the face of the franchise and he was insulted. He is not going back to Edmonton.



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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:14 PM

I don't think they got that much. The prospects they got will not turn into anything special at all and 1st round draft picks this year have barely any value at all.

I think this is a great deal for the Isles.


A 1st round pick from the Islanders has more value than the ones being thrown around by most other clubs. Nilsson has solid skills - whether he can put it all together remains to be seen. O'Marra hasn't been terrific in the OHL, but who knows.

It's more of an indictment of the subpar drafting of Mike Milbury than anything else.

It's hardly a 'great deal' for the Islanders - they gave up their best prospects for 20-30 games of a solid LW. Their chances for winning a Stanley Cup or contending are small. It may be a bad deal for both teams - but I doubt it.

And to the sucker who signs Ryan Smyth to that 5 year deal this off-season - good luck.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:17 PM

To start Smyth wants 5 million plus a season so yeah good luck to the team who gets him. Probably going back to Edmonton even though what they did to him today.
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:19 PM

THIS is the kind of player the Isles needed. I was thinking Gelinas, didn't know Smyth was in play. Good pickup for them. They gave up a lot, but a good pickup for the stretch run.

(I have Smyth in fantasy... what to do, what to do)
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:58 PM

I gained a bit of respect for the Isles today (as ridiculously overpriced as this deal was). I could have easily pictured them wussing out and trading Blake without doing something like this. A Devils-Isles #2-7 series might not be too much fun - unless you're not a fan of either team :lol:
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