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#61 SatansDevils

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 08:23 AM

the Devils were the better team by a few points, winning the season series doesn't mean a thing, and the Senators took less time to dispatch a better team in the playoffs, and looked far more dominant doing it.

as I said, the Sens are like the Lightning with depth and a goalie. Their first line is better, their second line is damn good, and their third line can actually score goals. Their defense can move the puck and skate with anyone. It's a frightening matchup - Ray Emery is going to have to be rather ordinary for us to win.



The Penguins are a very young and in experienced team in the playoffs this season and it showed against the Senators. Any team could have disposed the Penguins the way the Sens did in that series the way Fleury played who again had NO experience in the playoffs. Pittsburgh will only learn from this first time experience. Sens played great and did what they had and should do vs. a team who had no playoff experience and again it showed. Sens are a good team and it will rely on how Emery plays in this series. Devils should be able to expose Emery like they did for the most part of the season. I will take Brodeur and our defense any day in this series.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 08:29 AM

the Devils were the better team by a few points, winning the season series doesn't mean a thing, and the Senators took less time to dispatch a better team in the playoffs, and looked far more dominant doing it.

as I said, the Sens are like the Lightning with depth and a goalie. Their first line is better, their second line is damn good, and their third line can actually score goals. Their defense can move the puck and skate with anyone. It's a frightening matchup - Ray Emery is going to have to be rather ordinary for us to win.


The Sens are the underdogs in this series, because of the reasons i just stated. Not too many Hockey writers (if any) will be picking the Sens to win this series. How will the Sens play as underdogs? I guess we will see in 1 to 2 weeks.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 08:29 AM

Couple of things:

1. You can throw out the regular season - it means nothing. If it did, the Lightning would have won this past series.

2. I don't buy into this whole "unproven" goaltender crap. We've been beaten by plenty of "unproven" goaltenders in the past. Emery is good and certainly better than Holmquist who handed us a few. The Senators defense is a vast improvement over Tampa.

3. I don't feel that the Senators top line will give them Devils fits as much as Lecavalier and St. Louis, but it will be tough. It largely depends on which Alfredsson will show up - still a great player, but not what he once was.

4. Matvichuk, while playing extremely well, looked fatigued the last game. It worries me that he's logging too much ice time after the extended layoff.

5. Hopefully the Brodeur that played in game 5 and 6 will show up. He needs to stop playing the puck too much, it cost on that 2nd goal, the Senators will undoubtedly take advantage of it.

6. Emery can be rattled - the Devils must bump him, aggitate him and screen him as much as humanly possible.

While I hardly doubt the Senators will sweep this - the Devils have too much experience to let that happen - this will hardly be a cakewalk for either team. Any Devils fans who think this is going to be easy needs to put down the pipe (or give me some of what you're smoking). This will be a far tougher series than Tampa, no doubt. Still, I can't help doubting the Senators. They historically always find a way to blow it - you know, always the bridesmaid, never the bride type of thing.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 08:44 AM

Couple of things:

1. You can throw out the regular season - it means nothing. If it did, the Lightning would have won this past series.

2. I don't buy into this whole "unproven" goaltender crap. We've been beaten by plenty of "unproven" goaltenders in the past. Emery is good and certainly better than Holmquist who handed us a few. The Senators defense is a vast improvement over Tampa.

3. I don't feel that the Senators top line will give them Devils fits as much as Lecavalier and St. Louis, but it will be tough. It largely depends on which Alfredsson will show up - still a great player, but not what he once was.

4. Matvichuk, while playing extremely well, looked fatigued the last game. It worries me that he's logging too much ice time after the extended layoff.

5. Hopefully the Brodeur that played in game 5 and 6 will show up. He needs to stop playing the puck too much, it cost on that 2nd goal, the Senators will undoubtedly take advantage of it.

6. Emery can be rattled - the Devils must bump him, aggitate him and screen him as much as humanly possible.

While I hardly doubt the Senators will sweep this - the Devils have too much experience to let that happen - this will hardly be a cakewalk for either team. Any Devils fans who think this is going to be easy needs to put down the pipe (or give me some of what you're smoking). This will be a far tougher series than Tampa, no doubt. Still, I can't help doubting the Senators. They historically always find a way to blow it - you know, always the bridesmaid, never the bride type of thing.


1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Somewhat Disagree.
4. No Opinion
5. Agree
6. Disagree. The Pens tried that and it didnt work.

I feel this should be close series and if Emery plays as well as he has over the last 3 games in the Pens sereis (3 GA).....the Sens can win.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 08:52 AM

Agreed. This is going to be a very tough series. The Sens are 100x better than Tampa in every capacity.

Emery is underrated.

Sens have to be a heavy favorite based on our struggle with Tampa.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:10 AM

Agreed. This is going to be a very tough series. The Sens are 100x better than Tampa in every capacity.

Emery is underrated.

Sens have to be a heavy favorite based on our struggle with Tampa.



Struggle with Tampa? :huh: Devils won the series in six games beat TB 5-3 in Game 1 and took over the series the last three games. I wouldn't say it was a struggle. They lost two games in this series by 1 goal games 3-2. They did what they had to do to win two games by one goal as well shutting down TB in this series. :koolaid:
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:11 AM

Struggle with Tampa? :huh: Devils won the series in six games beat TB 5-3 in Game 1 and took over the series the last three games. I wouldn't say it was a struggle. They lost two games in this series by 1 goal games 3-2. They did what they had to do to win two games by one goal as well shutting down TB in this series. :koolaid:


uh - right - then they lose game 4 in OT, then what

it looked like the devils were going to lose this series - to say they didn't struggle with tampa is insanity
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:14 AM

Struggle with Tampa? :huh: Devils won the series in six games beat TB 5-3 in Game 1 and took over the series the last three games. I wouldn't say it was a struggle. They lost two games in this series by 1 goal games 3-2. They did what they had to do to win two games by one goal as well shutting down TB in this series. :koolaid:



What you got in that Koolaid anyway? :blink:
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:22 AM

I guess some saw some different games in this series. :unsure: Devils may have struggled in two games and only lost by 1 goal, but they still won it in six games and took control of the series the last three games. The last two were all Brodeur. EGG line and Parise line. Winning in six games is not a struggle. Yes the OT game could have gone either way, but Brodeur the better goaltender won that game. Give some credit when credit is due for the Devils winning this series in six games.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:28 AM

I guess some saw some different games in this series. :unsure: Devils may have struggled in two games and only lost by 1 goal, but they still won it in six games and took control of the series the last three games. The last two were all Brodeur. EGG line and Parise line. Winning in six games is not a struggle. Yes the OT game could have gone either way, but Brodeur the better goaltender won that game. Give some credit when credit is due for the Devils winning this series in six games.



There is no way anyone who is even remotely objective can say this series was not a struggle for the Devils.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:31 AM

how can Sens fans be thinking sweep? like - of anyone, ever? you'd think Senators fans would be like Sabres fans at this point - though I suppose there are Sabres fans who are supremely confident.

anyway, the Senators are like Tampa Bay, except with a real goaltender, decent defense, and depth up and down the lineup. While we certainly played better in the final 3 games vs. Tampa, the Devils will have to elevate their play once again to compete with the Senators. I don't think anyone can legitimately consider the Devils a favorite in this series.



Exactly Correct :evilcry:

We will clearly have to play better (than against TB) to even stay in this series and we will have to get lucky to win. Neither are highly likely, but are possible.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:32 AM

There is no way anyone who is even remotely objective can say this series was not a struggle for the Devils.



It was a struggle in some of the games, but not the whole series. It only went six games. If it went to seven games then it was a struggle in this series for the Devils. Devils did what they do best the last two games to win this series and the OT game. It was a tough series and it only gets tougher from here on in.

Some really need to think POSITIVE when it comes to Round 2. Too much NEGATIVITY here in Round 1 and thinking onto Round 2. Just tired of the negativity here from Devils fans.

Edited by SatansDevils, 23 April 2007 - 09:37 AM.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:41 AM

Couple of things:

1. You can throw out the regular season - it means nothing. If it did, the Lightning would have won this past series.

2. I don't buy into this whole "unproven" goaltender crap. We've been beaten by plenty of "unproven" goaltenders in the past. Emery is good and certainly better than Holmquist who handed us a few. The Senators defense is a vast improvement over Tampa.

3. I don't feel that the Senators top line will give them Devils fits as much as Lecavalier and St. Louis, but it will be tough. It largely depends on which Alfredsson will show up - still a great player, but not what he once was.

4. Matvichuk, while playing extremely well, looked fatigued the last game. It worries me that he's logging too much ice time after the extended layoff.

5. Hopefully the Brodeur that played in game 5 and 6 will show up. He needs to stop playing the puck too much, it cost on that 2nd goal, the Senators will undoubtedly take advantage of it.

6. Emery can be rattled - the Devils must bump him, aggitate him and screen him as much as humanly possible.

While I hardly doubt the Senators will sweep this - the Devils have too much experience to let that happen - this will hardly be a cakewalk for either team. Any Devils fans who think this is going to be easy needs to put down the pipe (or give me some of what you're smoking). This will be a far tougher series than Tampa, no doubt. Still, I can't help doubting the Senators. They historically always find a way to blow it - you know, always the bridesmaid, never the bride type of thing.



1. Yes, completely right
2. Goaltenders in many cases can be protected by their defense.... this goal tender is good an dthe defense is better... and we struggle with weak goal tenders sometimes.
3. I agree... Vinnie and St. Louy may not be better players but their TOI wears down our checking line... they needed to adapt and they did. Sens 1st line won't be out as much, thank g-d and that in of otself will make their 1st line "less dangerous."
4. I agree... he's warrior so he played well despite being fatigued.... his TOI will go down with the return of White.... and he should remain effective for the entire series.
5. I think Brodeur will be on his game.... that break between the regular season and the playoffs put him in a funk... which he recovered in time. Fear of the Sens probably will keep him up.
6. True for any goalie. How many times have Devil's actually rattled a goalie?
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:47 AM

6. True for any goalie. How many times have Devil's actually rattled a goalie?


Mike Vernon ??? :lol:

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:51 AM

I'm concerned that our D is too inexperienced to compete on this level. A couple of the older guys, yeah, but the older guys are the statues that freeze our offense. We need the young guys to get aggressive and bring the puck out of the zone. If they can do that, it'll be a series.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:10 AM

The Devils will have their hands full with this Ottawa team. For whatever reason many experts and fans have been sleeping on this Senators team but they have a boat load of talent and are just a solid hockey club through every position. People have been talking up the Sabres all year long but I really feel that Ottawa is the team to beat in the East

The Devils can beat Ottawa but they could lose just as easily. Unlike Tampa, the Devils will be playing a real team this time who can actually roll some lines and play defense. It's not going to be easy to win thats for sure. With that being said, if the Devils can get past the Sens, I really think we have the makings of a cup team here. Ottawa is just as good as anybody left in the playoffs. Beating them would be a huge accomplishment.



I think the reason that people "sleep" on this Sens team is because for half the season they floundered around and were around a .500 team. After Christmas they went on a run and got ona roll, and at the end were right there. The bottom line with the sens in my opinion is this. Again the big advantage for the Devils will be between the pipes. Yeah Emery has been good and hes this and that. Lets see what he does in a 7 game series against a team that isnt going to give up 5 goals a game like Pitt did. When he is pressed and the scores are 2 - 1 in the 3rd, or 3 - 2 finals, can he stand up to it?? I think Marty showed what he is made of (even though the beginning of the series he was playing off a bit) Now he seems to have it in gear, and we will see. I honestly feel if the EGG line gives some production, (like they have the last few games) especially Elias getting going, and Parise's line keeps its pace then I feel the Devils will win a hard fought series in 6 games. With alot of 1 goal victories.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:18 AM

Exactly Correct :evilcry:

We will clearly have to play better (than against TB) to even stay in this series and we will have to get lucky to win. Neither are highly likely, but are possible.



Come on lucky to win?? I have issues with some things the Devils do but that is a bit of a stretch. the Devils are a solid team that when playing to their abilities can stay with anybody including the Sabres or Sens. The fact is having a Goalie that is capable of playing like Brodeur did in game 5 and 6 puts the team more at ease and allows them to get it going easier. As long as Marty stays in the groove he was in the last 2 games I do not think luck will have anything to do with it. The Devils top 2 lines will pose more problems for the Sens than did Pitts 1 line. ALso the top line of the Sens did not face anything remotely equal to what they wil face against Madden and Pando. PLease everybody is sooo worried about the Sens now all of a sudden because they beat a Pittsburg team (that over achieved this season) in the first round. the Devils didnt get 107 points by being lucky, and beating the Sens wont be luck either. The fact is the Sens did nto fare well against the Devils this season nor did Buffalo, and yes regular seasons dont mean anything, but matchups do, and I feel the Devils defensive style matches well against the Sens (especially in playoff hockey)
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:21 AM

There is no way anyone who is even remotely objective can say this series was not a struggle for the Devils.



Exactly MS. I for one breathed a sigh of relief when the horn sounded yesterday.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:40 AM

why in the world are people saying that the senators season series is a big deal - does everyone just forget the 8-1 drubbing they laid on us early in the year?

the lightning just looked like a beaten team after game 4. i worry that like in 2003, we will have to go up big in the series early (2-0 or 3-1), otherwise we are going to be in some trouble. this senators team does not have any major weaknesses - we do.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:54 AM

Senators are very good. The Devils just need more Marty Party's where he plays big games.

Tri, maybe this can be a series Marty adds to his steals list.

Edit: I also wouldn't say last series was a struggle. It wasn't easy either. It was a normal type 6 games series type contest. It feels more like a struggle here because of the way everyone freaked out after game 3, IMO.

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