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#41 gogonjdevil

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:16 AM

Who knows. People always make sh!t up to make people look bad. No one knows. What I do know is he's been heavily evaluated by the 'Phins' doctors and he's at 85% 4 months later, so I believe he couldn't play.


Hmmm...I remember when the Phins' doctors evaluated Brees and C-Pep. Right now I'm so pissed at the Phins as a whole, I can't even explain it. I've heard rumors that Cam picked Ginn because he was friends with his family. It seems to me that this is going to be a long season for phin fans.

<sigh> And I was almost hopeful before the draft.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:18 AM

dolphins were smart to trust in culpepper and cleo lemon.



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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:26 AM

I am happy with what we did (Grubbs, Figurs, Yanda and Smith). McGhaee should have a career year behind this line and take the pressure of McNair. Hopefully, Billick can get his head out of his assets and come up with a real offensive game plan with the tools we have. Billick cost us the superbowl.

In the meantime what the hell are Philly and Miami thinking???
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:28 AM

phily was thinking McNabb NEVER finishes the season and maybe he never will......
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:48 AM

As a Bills fan and a Penn State fan...I bet you know how I feel about the draft! :clap: :clap:
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 12:19 PM

Hmmm...I remember when the Phins' doctors evaluated Brees and C-Pep. Right now I'm so pissed at the Phins as a whole, I can't even explain it. I've heard rumors that Cam picked Ginn because he was friends with his family. It seems to me that this is going to be a long season for phin fans.

<sigh> And I was almost hopeful before the draft.



I feel ya man. I'm pissed too. It's ridiculous. But hey, we're Dolphins fans. Pain is just part of the deal. :argh:
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 12:46 PM

I feel ya man. I'm pissed too. It's ridiculous. But hey, we're Dolphins fans. Pain is just part of the deal. :argh:



Ill tell you what:

the Ginn Jr pick was a reach no question...but I love Beck as a QB...he has the tools to be a very good NFL QB, IMO just as much as Brady Quinn does.

If the Fish did not want Quinn...I would have liked to see the Fish draft Willis or Okoye with that pick...or say they were gonna draft Willis and see if the Niners would move up 2 spots, get another 2nd rounder, and THEN take Ginn...more value for the buck, so to speak.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 01:08 PM

This probably should have its own thread but it is a draft trade...

The Patriots have acquired RANDY MOSS for a fourth-round pick as per the NFL Network (via SNY) :blink:

NE's doing things they've never done before, splurge in FA, take bad character guys - geez, either they're really afraid of the Jets and are desperate to get one or two more SB's before the Jets get great or this is the last year or two for King Bill anyway.


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Posted 30 April 2007 - 01:36 PM

Ill tell you what:

the Ginn Jr pick was a reach no question...but I love Beck as a QB...he has the tools to be a very good NFL QB, IMO just as much as Brady Quinn does.

If the Fish did not want Quinn...I would have liked to see the Fish draft Willis or Okoye with that pick...or say they were gonna draft Willis and see if the Niners would move up 2 spots, get another 2nd rounder, and THEN take Ginn...more value for the buck, so to speak.



I've heard good things about Beck. Still- passing on Quinn to draft a 175 LB WR/KR is extremely hard for me to swallow. Extremely hard. Cameron and Mueller both stated that Beck's accuracy set him apart, and that's the main reason they had him rated higher than Quinn. What I don't like is that the guy is going to be 26 soon because he was on his mormon church mission for two years. He's supposed to be pretty smart though, so we'll see when he can step in. Apparently, the kid is a sponge when it comes to learning offesnes, which is another reason Cameron and Mueller realy liked him. They better be right, because those two guys have their Dolphin legacy riding on Beck's arm and Ginn's legs.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:40 PM

phily was thinking McNabb NEVER finishes the season and maybe he never will......



Then why get rid of Garcia when he resurrected a team that basically gave up. Ty Detmer is NOT going to be able to do that and McNabb sounded perplexed in a conference call during the draft.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:43 PM

Culpepper, potentially Green and a drafted twig? Miami makes the Jets season a little easier.

I give Cameron 2 years and he is a gonner.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:02 PM

Culpepper, potentially Green and a drafted twig? Miami makes the Jets season a little easier.

I give Cameron 2 years and he is a gonner.



The "twig" we drafted can throw the ball 70 yards in the air. I'm not saying he'll be great, but I'll trust the guys who did the extensive research and get paid the big bucks to do so and give the kid a chance. Judging by everytthing I've read from objective observers, Beck has a pretty high ceiling. And I just keep repeating to myself "Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round" to make myself feel better. :P That said- yes, we are going to suck this year. Hardcore. We have a great defense, but the issues at QB and on the o-line are too big to ignore right now to say the Dolphins will be playoff contenders.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:18 PM

Then why get rid of Garcia when he resurrected a team that basically gave up. Ty Detmer is NOT going to be able to do that and McNabb sounded perplexed in a conference call during the draft.

The Eagles have peaked.


You tell me the team in the NFL under the cap that can afford to pay TWO Starting QB salaries (Garcia was getting PAID off that run odn't doubt it) and still out a good team on the ice ... field......it's just NOT happening in the NFL.... unless you get lucky and re-draft Tom Brady :P
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 08:05 AM

You tell me the team in the NFL under the cap that can afford to pay TWO Starting QB salaries (Garcia was getting PAID off that run odn't doubt it) and still out a good team on the ice ... field......it's just NOT happening in the NFL.... unless you get lucky and re-draft Tom Brady :P



Your original statement was: Phily was thinking McNabb NEVER finishes the season and maybe he never will......

Based on this you are required to have potentially two starters. I think Garcia wanted to stay in Philly and would have taken the same money as Detmer, with some incentives for games started, because I McNabb's games lost to injury wouldn't count against the cap.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 08:40 AM

Your original statement was: Phily was thinking McNabb NEVER finishes the season and maybe he never will......

Based on this you are required to have potentially two starters. I think Garcia wanted to stay in Philly and would have taken the same money as Detmer, with some incentives for games started, because I McNabb's games lost to injury wouldn't count against the cap.


And if you're going to pay for two starters, then you're taking a MAJOR chunk of your cap and committing it to that and only that... that's gonna leave holes... and big ones....the cost-value of doing so with two experienced QBs just does not make sense in a capped universe.... so...you go out and draft a guy you hope can do the job or you gamble on a Culpepper or Joey Harrington :ph34r: type... and look around the league... who really has two QB's making starters money.... ain't no one I can think of....

It is those kind of personnel moves at this time of year that can make the difference in 10-6 and 6-10 though
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:22 AM

All right who has the cliff notes version of what the 49ers did?
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:27 AM

And if you're going to pay for two starters, then you're taking a MAJOR chunk of your cap and committing it to that and only that... that's gonna leave holes... and big ones....the cost-value of doing so with two experienced QBs just does not make sense in a capped universe.... so...you go out and draft a guy you hope can do the job or you gamble on a Culpepper or Joey Harrington :ph34r: type... and look around the league... who really has two QB's making starters money.... ain't no one I can think of....

It is those kind of personnel moves at this time of year that can make the difference in 10-6 and 6-10 though



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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:48 AM

All right who has the cliff notes version of what the 49ers did?


http://nfl.com/draft...tracker/team/SF

The filled some needs for SURE

and they added a good #1 WR in Darrel Jackson
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 04:02 PM

And if you're going to pay for two starters, then you're taking a MAJOR chunk of your cap and committing it to that and only that... that's gonna leave holes... and big ones....the cost-value of doing so with two experienced QBs just does not make sense in a capped universe.... so...you go out and draft a guy you hope can do the job or you gamble on a Culpepper or Joey Harrington :ph34r: type... and look around the league... who really has two QB's making starters money.... ain't no one I can think of....

It is those kind of personnel moves at this time of year that can make the difference in 10-6 and 6-10 though



As I said, Garcia would have taken Demeter's money, but with incentives for games started, which would have covered McNabb's contract.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 05:01 PM

As I said, Garcia would have taken Demeter's money, but with incentives for games started, which would have covered McNabb's contract.


I forget (and gave up on long ago as the numbers are not guaranteed) how that works but I THINK some of the incentives go against the cap as well.... and like I ased before to no answer... what other team in the NFL has the $$$ to carry two starting QBs... and don't tell me Tampa cause I wouldn't let Chris Simms start my PS-3 system!!!! :P
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