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#101 MantaRay

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:16 PM

The problem with the Dolphins is that they seem to have to rebuild every other year and the scouting seems to suck.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:18 PM

Problem is most Dolphin fans don't live in South Florida and trying to sell out that stadium is tough. The Dolphins don't sell out unless the Jets, Patriots, or a "national" team such as Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Green Bay at in town. The Giants job is definately the better job between franchise tradition, off-field business opportunities, the franchise QB already in place in Eli (the lone bright spot of Big Blue's season so far), the new stadium, and the ego boost of being the head coach of the cornerstone franchise of the NFL.



That is a big problem for us. All the Dolphin fans are scattered all over the country. Yesterday was a joke with all the Dallas fans there. You could here "Let's go Cowboys" chants by the end of the game. And it's the same whenever a team like Dallas, Green Bay, New England, or the Jets are in town. Three years ago, the Steelers brought all of Pittsburgh with them to our house, and the year before that, it was filled wtih Eagles fans when we played Philly. It's an embaressment. I wish I was old enough to recall the gool 'ol days of the Orange Bowl. All the old-timers on the Dolphins board I post on will talk about how it was the loudest and most intimidating place in the league to play back in the day. As it stands, the team sucks AND we have no home field advantage. Not to mention the seats are too far away from the field, so the stadium doesn't get that loud anyway. It blows.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:18 PM

The problem with the Dolphins is that they seem to have to rebuild every other year and the scouting seems to suck.


And also they can't put up a Good O-line or a Good QB.(Since Marino left....Fiedler was the best QB...Shame.)



Meh...They have a good Def, but their Whole offense struggles(Trent Green/O-line are the reasons why they struggle that much)
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:20 PM

The problem with the Dolphins is that they seem to have to rebuild every other year and the scouting seems to suck.




It starts at the top with Wayne Huizenga. He has cultivated a culture of losing. It's been a disaster ever since he pushed Shula out the door. I have been calling for him to sell the team for years, and I will continue to unitl we win a SB, he dies, or he actually does all a favor and sells- whichever comes first. The man knows NOTHING about football or how to run a football team.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:23 PM

It starts at the top with Wayne Huizenga. He has cultivated a culture of losing. It's been a disaster ever since he pushed Shula out the door. I have been calling for him to sell the team for years, and I will continue to unitl we win a SB, he dies, or he actually does all a favor and sells- whichever comes first. The man knows NOTHING about football or how to run a football team.




Humm, I didn't know that... That sucks for being a Dolphin fan(Its like being a Buffalo Sabre fan, with Larry Quinn :))





Oh well, I feel lucky for having "The Rooneys" to run those Steelers ;)
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:31 PM

It starts at the top with Wayne Huizenga. He has cultivated a culture of losing. It's been a disaster ever since he pushed Shula out the door. I have been calling for him to sell the team for years, and I will continue to unitl we win a SB, he dies, or he actually does all a favor and sells- whichever comes first. The man knows NOTHING about football or how to run a football team.



My uncle HAD season tickets but dropped them about 10 years ago and will not get them again till Huizenga sells the team.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:31 PM

My uncle HAD season tickets but dropped them about 10 years ago and will not get them again till Huizenga sells the team.



Good for him!! I would encourage all Dolphin fans to do the same thing.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:03 PM

What makes this the "cornerstone fanchise" of the NFL?


The modern era of the NFL, which started when games were first broadcast in 1956 because the television networks wanted to broadcast the Giants. Through greater coverage their players such as Sam Huff, Charlie Connerly, Pat Summeral, and Frank Gifford became celebrities staring in movies, commercials, and eventually becoming national sports commentators. The Giants were also the first NFL franchise to put their better athletes on defense (Huff, Dick Lynch, Rosie Grier, Andy Robistelli, etc.). Because of this football defense became recognized for the first time anywhere. The NFL's "league-think" socialism mentality would not have happened if the Mara's pulled a Steinbrenner and horded the television riches of the New York (and Boston) markets to themselves. "National Teams" such as Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and perhaps even Dallas would not have survived the 1960's financially if not for the Giants. Because of the popularity of the Giants at this key period in the NFL's growth they were the most important cog in the league's overall success and survival during the league's post WW2 adolescence.

I didn't even mention that Tom Landry (defense) and Vince Lombardi (offense) were the Giants coordinators in that 56-7 rout of the Bears in the 1956 NFL Championship. Those guys kinda revolutionized the game. As well as the mediocre Fran Tarkenton teams of the late 60' which was the first team to invent what became known later as the "West Coast Offense".
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:05 PM

Good God I do love and miss the evil clown

we went from.. THEY WILL UPSET THE STEELERS... to TEAR IT ALL APART in 24 hours :lol:

God I can't wait for Dallas Buffalo :evil:



If the Bills go 1-15 and win in 10/8/07...I'll take it!!!!!

Loseman is garbage....Rob Johnson Part II, the sequel has the same tragic ending...end it now, please!!!!!
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:07 PM

McGahee is good, but I was expecting great.



This Bills fan is surely not suprised, as Marshawn Lynch has shown me more heart and potential in 2 games then Willis did in 3 years in Western NY.

Now, if the Bills can get a new QB, TE, two better WR's, DT, OLB, a corner, hey, 8-8 MIGHT happen! :doh1:

Edited by LOTCB, 17 September 2007 - 06:09 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:45 PM

If the Bills go 1-15 and win in 10/8/07...I'll take it!!!!!

Loseman is garbage....Rob Johnson Part II, the sequel has the same tragic ending...end it now, please!!!!!


Man you've stooped so low so fast!!

I can't concern my game that is THAT far ahead on the schedule... here and now... one game... one win... at a time B )

you're gonna be shattered if Dallas puts up a 40-burger on Buffalo :P
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:17 PM

The modern era of the NFL, which started when games were first broadcast in 1956 because the television networks wanted to broadcast the Giants. Through greater coverage their players such as Sam Huff, Charlie Connerly, Pat Summeral, and Frank Gifford became celebrities staring in movies, commercials, and eventually becoming national sports commentators. The Giants were also the first NFL franchise to put their better athletes on defense (Huff, Dick Lynch, Rosie Grier, Andy Robistelli, etc.). Because of this football defense became recognized for the first time anywhere. The NFL's "league-think" socialism mentality would not have happened if the Mara's pulled a Steinbrenner and horded the television riches of the New York (and Boston) markets to themselves. "National Teams" such as Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and perhaps even Dallas would not have survived the 1960's financially if not for the Giants. Because of the popularity of the Giants at this key period in the NFL's growth they were the most important cog in the league's overall success and survival during the league's post WW2 adolescence.

I didn't even mention that Tom Landry (defense) and Vince Lombardi (offense) were the Giants coordinators in that 56-7 rout of the Bears in the 1956 NFL Championship. Those guys kinda revolutionized the game. As well as the mediocre Fran Tarkenton teams of the late 60' which was the first team to invent what became known later as the "West Coast Offense".


Yet they have how many super bowl rings? Face it, football didn't become an every house every person sport untill the late 60's early 70's... when we watch highlights of the best teams to ever take the feild we see teams from that era and modern day, including my Dallas cowboys. When yo think of a Dynasty you think of Emmit Smith, michael Irvin, and Troy Aikman, you think of Tom Brady Bill Billechek and Adam veneiteri, but you don't see or hear, unless you are talking to a Giants fan, higlights or scores from games in 1956.. you can cherish your victories from where a helmet was made out of leather, but football as we all know it didn't come along untll well after that, so if you want to talk about the past we can talk about the past, but that has no place for a discussion about a more valuable and ownable, for complete lack of a different word, football fracnchise now a days...

Don't get me wrong, i think owning the Giants would be more beneficial than owning the Dolphins (YEAHH MATSUI!! SEE YA!!!) ...sorry... where was i? Oh yeah, the G-Men would be a better team to own, basically because of the fact that they are a New York team, (even when they play in New Jersey, but don't get me started on that), and because the New York Media can do wonderful things to a manager and/or owner, as well as rip him apart. Also the fact that they and the Jets do have a new stadium coming helps...

What my message sounded like was a disagreement, and I'm sorry it did, because i agreed with your post, but it just got me a little off beat when you called the Giants the "cornerstone" of the NFL.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:35 PM

Yet they have how many super bowl rings? Face it, football didn't become an every house every person sport untill the late 60's early 70's... when we watch highlights of the best teams to ever take the feild we see teams from that era and modern day, including my Dallas cowboys. When yo think of a Dynasty you think of Emmit Smith, michael Irvin, and Troy Aikman, you think of Tom Brady Bill Billechek and Adam veneiteri, but you don't see or hear, unless you are talking to a Giants fan, higlights or scores from games in 1956.. you can cherish your victories from where a helmet was made out of leather, but football as we all know it didn't come along untll well after that, so if you want to talk about the past we can talk about the past, but that has no place for a discussion about a more valuable and ownable, for complete lack of a different word, football fracnchise now a days...

Don't get me wrong, i think owning the Giants would be more beneficial than owning the Dolphins (YEAHH MATSUI!! SEE YA!!!) ...sorry... where was i? Oh yeah, the G-Men would be a better team to own, basically because of the fact that they are a New York team, (even when they play in New Jersey, but don't get me started on that), and because the New York Media can do wonderful things to a manager and/or owner, as well as rip him apart. Also the fact that they and the Jets do have a new stadium coming helps...

What my message sounded like was a disagreement, and I'm sorry it did, because i agreed with your post, but it just got me a little off beat when you called the Giants the "cornerstone" of the NFL.



I think the first Dynasty ever was the Steelers back in the 70's.

Terry Bradshaw,Franco Harris, Jack Ham,Lambert, and the STEEL CURTAIN! Lynn Swan as the WR...They had monsters on that D-line, and when it came to Superbowls, Bradshaw would pay his ass off.

49niners,Steelers,Cowboys can be considered as Dynasties though.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:38 PM

the first true modern dynasty... Green Bay Packers people... geesh!!! :doh1:
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:38 PM

I think the first Dynasty ever was the Steelers back in the 70's.

Terry Bradshaw,Franco Harris, Jack Ham,Lambert, and the STEEL CURTAIN! Lynn Swan as the WR...They had monsters on that D-line, and when it came to Superbowls, Bradshaw would pay his ass off.

49niners,Steelers,Cowboys can be considered as Dynasties though.


I'll definately give you the Steelers, don't know how i let those slip... especially because of how they beat my Cowboys so many times.... uggh don't remind me, me.

Anyway, Cowboys, 9ers, Steelers, and what about the packers ... but definately not the Giants.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:45 PM

the first true modern dynasty... Green Bay Packers people... geesh!!! :doh1:



Soooorrrrryyyy, I'm trying to cultivate myself about history of the NFL like I did with the NHL.(Yarly.)


I'm surfing on wikipedia :uni:
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:47 PM

Soooorrrrryyyy, I'm trying to cultivate myself about history of the NFL like I did with the NHL.(Yarly.)
I'm surfing on wikipedia :uni:


well now ya know.. drink less beer... learn more sports history :)
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:44 AM

While you're at it Zajac, read up on the Cleveland Browns, the first true dynasty.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:43 AM

Ill tell you what, the Redskins look a LOT better this year now that they have a decent QB who will only get better, that allows them to better utilize their talented WR corps. They also have 2 very good RB's, a very underrated TE in Cooley, and a very underrated defense with good, young talent such as LaRon Landry. Fletcher so far has shown to be a very nice addition to their defense.

I guess Gibbs can still coach

Edited by LOTCB, 18 September 2007 - 10:44 AM.

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:59 AM

Ill tell you what, the Redskins look a LOT better this year now that they have a decent QB who will only get better, that allows them to better utilize their talented WR corps. They also have 2 very good RB's, a very underrated TE in Cooley, and a very underrated defense with good, young talent such as LaRon Landry. Fletcher so far has shown to be a very nice addition to their defense.

I guess Gibbs can still coach



I agree. See what happens when you have talent and Dan Snyder keeps his mouth shut?
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