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#61 Martyisth3b3st

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 07:44 PM

:hah: Chargers- 1-3 :rofl:
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Second best in the AFC, my a**

More like the Saints of the AFC.


But bro you said it, yes i did say the Chargers would be one of the top teams in the AFC, but they are another one of those teams that no one could have predicted, like the Saints. If someone offered me a $1,000 over under 2-2 for the Chargers, looking at their schedule, i would easily take the over, and i don't know anyone who wouldn't. Well, how bout them Cowboys?
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 09:10 PM

I guess you missed the part when I said look at the rest of the NFC?

I'll take Dallas' 4 wins over the 4 that Green Bay has had in level of quality at this point (though they will play a lot of the same teams and EACH OTHER before it all settles)

but guarantee all you damn want... I don't fall into that crap :P

as of RIGHT NOW, this moment Oct 1, 2007.. there's no better team in the NFC



If only they just played the first month. If that were the case, the 2007 Mets would've been crowned champions.

A lot can change over the course of a season. And as you know, it can happen in the NFL as well.

Right now, you're right. There aren't many great teams in football.


Outside of the Colts and Pats, everyone is a notch below including Dallas and Green Bay.


Are the Cowboys good? Sure. TO is playing well and looks motivated. Witten is one of the best kept secrets at TE and really is the guy you must shutdown if you want to stop that offense Imo. Barber and Jones are as good a RB combo in the league. And even your other receivers are getting the job done before Glenn returns. Romo so far has done a good job in what still is his first full season as starter. Let's see how he holds up.

The D has been alright. It is attackable though. Especially if you throw in the direction of Roy Williams who doesn't have anyone to cover for his mistakes now.

They should win 11-12 games. So if you want to say they're in the mix, I can't disagree.


We'll see what happens.
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 10:21 PM

[size=4][center][b]Week Four in the books, and it
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 10:26 PM

If only they just played the first month. If that were the case, the 2007 Mets would've been crowned champions.

A lot can change over the course of a season. And as you know, it can happen in the NFL as well.

Right now, you're right. There aren't many great teams in football.
Outside of the Colts and Pats, everyone is a notch below including Dallas and Green Bay.
Are the Cowboys good? Sure. TO is playing well and looks motivated. Witten is one of the best kept secrets at TE and really is the guy you must shutdown if you want to stop that offense Imo. Barber and Jones are as good a RB combo in the league. And even your other receivers are getting the job done before Glenn returns. Romo so far has done a good job in what still is his first full season as starter. Let's see how he holds up.

The D has been alright. It is attackable though. Especially if you throw in the direction of Roy Williams who doesn't have anyone to cover for his mistakes now.

They should win 11-12 games. So if you want to say they're in the mix, I can't disagree.
We'll see what happens.


so then if we can't judge the league on the 4 games that have passed... what CAN we judge it on??
How can we tell who is good and who isn't? Hey let's have an AP poll like those dopes do in College Football maybe?? Or let's go on those pre-season predictions... hell that San Diego/New Orleans pick can still be truw then!! :clap:

and you should know by NOW.. I've never been the one to come out and beat my chest like King Kong's demon spawn about a win or my team looking good (all you need to do is GO LOOK BACK as I've been screaming at the Cowboy fans to knock it off and don't mess with the karma!

And you name me a team in the NFL that ISN'T flawed?? The Pats still have a defense that is being carried by this unstoppable offense which MAKES you press and make mistakes and trying to play TD for TD with them and not many teams CAN... the Colts?? We'll see after the Injury reports come out....

The thing that took me the longest to do this week... find 5 good NFC teams for my rankings!!! It's not a good year talent wise in the NFL (and the most MISERABLE Fantasy season I can EVER remember)... but it makes it fun to watch!
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 10:52 PM

The Bengals were able to move the ball tonight.... 11 to 15 yard passes seemed to come easily. I was not happy with the Patriots pass defence.

BTW - I think I heard them say that the last time a team won their first 4 games of the season by 20+ points was in 1920. I wonder if Buffalo Collegiate All Stars used Hi-def video to steal defensive signals?
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:27 AM

[quote]Baltimore at Cleveland:
Wow, this was probably the biggest upset of the day here
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:30 AM

Statisically we outplayed Cleveland in every aspect, accept the most important: the score.

On offense, I think McNair is done. Boller STILL has the potential to be a great QB.


How about big plays though?? That Edwards TD early was a KILLER... going down 14-0 with the Ravens poor (at best) offense was a KILLING blow... I watched alot of that game... Cleveland is a dangerous team now, they are just having fun out there and playing nose to the wind football

Yeah McNair is sadly finished... but again.. what weapons does the QB regardless have to use? Heap ? Mason? Not very many weapons in the arsenal in Baltimore... they're like the Bears, but they have a RB at least...
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:46 AM

How about big plays though?? That Edwards TD early was a KILLER... going down 14-0 with the Ravens poor (at best) offense was a KILLING blow... I watched alot of that game... Cleveland is a dangerous team now, they are just having fun out there and playing nose to the wind football

Yeah McNair is sadly finished... but again.. what weapons does the QB regardless have to use? Heap ? Mason? Not very many weapons in the arsenal in Baltimore... they're like the Bears, but they have a RB at least...


I was hoping that Clayton and Moore would be "more" effective, but they are not doing much.

I am a Romeo Crennel fan so I am glad they are having fun, just not at our expense.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:58 AM

I was hoping that Clayton and Moore would be "more" effective, but they are not doing much.

I am a Romeo Crennel fan so I am glad they are having fun, just not at our expense.


Gotta agree there, Ravens should have made a more serious run at Stallworth in the off-season me thinks... he's the home run type of guy that adds a "scare you" player on the offense....

and yeah... the Browns success is KILLING ME too :P
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:24 PM

The Raiders are looking a lot better with Culpepper as their QB. Raiders might actually have a pretty good season possibly at .500. Culpepper than Russell if needed.

Cowboys look the best so far then I would say the Patriots through 4 weeks.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:41 PM

so then if we can't judge the league on the 4 games that have passed... what CAN we judge it on??
How can we tell who is good and who isn't? Hey let's have an AP poll like those dopes do in College Football maybe?? Or let's go on those pre-season predictions... hell that San Diego/New Orleans pick can still be truw then!! :clap:

and you should know by NOW.. I've never been the one to come out and beat my chest like King Kong's demon spawn about a win or my team looking good (all you need to do is GO LOOK BACK as I've been screaming at the Cowboy fans to knock it off and don't mess with the karma!

And you name me a team in the NFL that ISN'T flawed?? The Pats still have a defense that is being carried by this unstoppable offense which MAKES you press and make mistakes and trying to play TD for TD with them and not many teams CAN... the Colts?? We'll see after the Injury reports come out....

The thing that took me the longest to do this week... find 5 good NFC teams for my rankings!!! It's not a good year talent wise in the NFL (and the most MISERABLE Fantasy season I can EVER remember)... but it makes it fun to watch!



That's what makes predictions meaningless. Out of the 12 teams that made it last year, look how many are in a bind:


San Diego- 1-3
Jets- 1-3
Eagles- 1-3
Saints- 0-3
Bears- 1-3

Plus the Giants, Ravens and Broncos are each 2-2. Though it's a lot different being in the NFC than top heavy AFC.



You've been beating your chest the whole month. Facebook much? I can't say I blame ya though.


The Pats and Colts aren't flawed and would destroy anyone from the NFC.


Cleveland, Oakland and Arizona in your power rankings??? Yikes.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:30 PM

You've been beating your chest the whole month. Facebook much? I can't say I blame ya though.
The Pats and Colts aren't flawed and would destroy anyone from the NFC.
Cleveland, Oakland and Arizona in your power rankings??? Yikes.


I'm doing that as more a revenge thing on the Giants and Jets fans i know and the ones I have to mouth off at every Sunday in my bar... like I said... a 24 hour enjoyment period then you stress about the next guys :P
(and I use myspace more.... facebook is for me to talk to ONE friend!)

I get this weird feeling Oakland MIGHT win the AFC West, they are playing the best football in the division... and Cleveland will go 9-7 to piss me off about what SHOULD be a top 5 pick we were gonna get from them, and look at the teams they beat... they spanked around Baltimore and outgunned the Bengals... they honestly had the Raiders BEAT if not for that moronic timeout rule, which HAS to go... and so they got spanked with the worthless Charlie Fyre at QB.... someone is going to trade for Derek Anderson next year and be VERY happy they did... he'll be a better QB then Quinn.. just watch!!!

It's REALLY hard to pick a 5th team in the NFC so I went with who had the most impressive win... Arizona
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 10:54 AM

It wouldn't matter if Oakland started McCown or Culpepper against these teams.


Lets not over rate the Raiders, they are still a very bad team who had the good fortune of playing suspect teams that didn't prepare for them.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 11:01 AM

Lets not over rate the Raiders, they are still a very bad team who had the good fortune of playing suspect teams that didn't prepare for them.


Every year it seems we see one or two bad teams from the year before, that improve some and get a 4th place schedule and arise as a playoff team in that season... last year it was the jets (and almost the packers)...it's not as much over-rating them as seeing a trend and trying to jump on it as it's unfolding

this year it looks like it could be the raiders and browns
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:53 PM

It wouldn't matter if Oakland started McCown or Culpepper against these teams.
Lets not over rate the Raiders, they are still a very bad team who had the good fortune of playing suspect teams that didn't prepare for them.



Ah, what a trip to Miami. Not only does the game get delayed by lightning for a half an hour, I get to see Culpepper shove it up our asses in the worst way possible. *Sigh*. How many more days until the draft?
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:58 PM

*Sigh*. How many more days until the draft?



You had a countdown somewhere...we BOTH need to update it!
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:59 PM

You had a countdown somewhere...we BOTH need to update it!


At least the Bills have a win... man as a Dolphin follower, not fan, but follower, it hurt me to see Daunte scorching them. That one touchdown where he dove in, when he pointed to his knee and gave the "ok" sign, my friend got his Fins Daunte Jersey and went outside and burnt it on the spot, dead serious.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:29 PM

At least the Bills have a win... man as a Dolphin follower, not fan, but follower, it hurt me to see Daunte scorching them. That one touchdown where he dove in, when he pointed to his knee and gave the "ok" sign, my friend got his Fins Daunte Jersey and went outside and burnt it on the spot, dead serious.



Good for him. I would've done the same if I owned a Culpepper jersey.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 08:43 PM

Myfoxcolorado.com, Fox Channel 31 out of Denver, is reporting Denver Broncos running back Travis Henry has tested positive for marijuana and might be subject to a one-year suspension. While playing for the Tennessee Titans in 2005, he received a four-game suspension. Henry missed his second straight day of practice on Thursday due to an ankle and knee injury.

Analysis: Henry might elect to appeal this violation, but if it is denied, he would be forced to start serving a one-year suspension immediately due to NFL rules. Under these rules, he can file for reinstatment 60 days prior to the end of the suspension. The Broncos signed him to a five-year contract during the offseason, something they might be kicking themselves for right about now if this report is true. Grab Selvin Young immediately in all Fantasy leagues.

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