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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:21 PM

OH crasher your still upset that your cowgirls got punked on their own turf. Every former professional footbal player that is now an analyst has been talking talking all day about how they dont have a problem with it. It's plain and simple just stop then and they can't run the score up. Miami did a good job of it the week before they actually stood up and moved the ball the entire second half. The redskins just laid there and took there beating.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:54 PM

OH crasher your still upset that your cowgirls got punked on their own turf. Every former professional footbal player that is now an analyst has been talking talking all day about how they dont have a problem with it. It's plain and simple just stop then and they can't run the score up. Miami did a good job of it the week before they actually stood up and moved the ball the entire second half. The redskins just laid there and took there beating.


Wow, there's the quick and lazy assumption about it... I said it 18 ways till sunday the better team won and whatever... what that has to do with fake spikes against a team that can't beat Rutgers and is up FORTY at the half already is beyond me and then DOING IT AGAIN the next week... yeah... sure... woo hoo... karma's a bitch and I can't wait to see it come back and get them

(and if you remember me saying it before... I said I want my starters OUT OF THE GAME at this point because I don't want to RISK THEM GETTING HURT and I want them saved for the games that MATTER, not some bullsh!t records that no one cares about!!)

try to remember I am an actual FOOTBALL FAN before any team allegiances and loyalties and I love NOTHING more then sitting in the bar all day on Sundays harassing my bartenders and seeing each and EVERY second of every football game on there and when things are right I say they are right and when something is gutless chickensh!t effort and an embarrassment to the league and the game I love... then I'm gonna say it too!!!
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:28 PM

Most power rankings had them in the top 10 before that game but yea they couldnt beat rutgers haha. This is professional football yet your looking for them to invoke some kind of mercy rule. Brady didn't even play the entire game. Jesus they couldnt even stop the back up, which Miami had no problem doing. At least go out with some pride. Miami is by far the worst thing going in the NFL and even they fought back against the new evil empire. The Redskins just rolled over and died so Belichek let them lay a nice ass whoopin down on them. This was nothign more then a tune up game for next week and it is clear they wanted to show they could put a complete effort together for the full 60 minutes. Considering how Miami moved the ball on them in the second half with relative ease it's like they felt they had to prove to themselves that they were better then that. If you have a problem with a team playing hard for the full 60 minutes regardless of the score then wow maybe football isnt the game for you.

And like I said I'm not alone on this nearly every former player and coached interviewed today had no problem with what the patriots did. ESPN may have some clips from Mike and mike this morning with Ditka check it out.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:31 PM

:cryriver:

40 = 6 touchdowns.

If the Devils were up 6-0 on the Rangers, you wouldn't screaming for them to double-shift Asham-Rupp-Brylin.

What I do find humorous is that the exact same people (not here, -or at least not just here-), the people saying that the Patriots are so good that they should play their second string in the second half are the same people that said you have to question how valid the Patriots past Superbowls were given video-gate. It's just Patriots hate. Or in Crasher's case (and Hasan's for that matter) it's Belichick hate.

Up 35-14 on the Titans last year Dallas continued to pour it on.... did they pull Bledsoe? Nope. No way. They kept it comin'..... scoring 10 more points and making it a slaughter. Classless bastards.

All of the analysts had it right.... if you are an NFL team you have one goal. To secure the win. Not to make the nancy's happy worrying about the other teams feelings.

I'm at a team Canada game with Canada up 8-0 and I'm screaming my lungs out for a ninth goal.... no mercy. Classy? Maybe not. But neither is hoping for a league mvp candidate to get injured.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:33 PM

:cryriver:

40 = 6 touchdowns.

If the Devils were up 6-0 on the Rangers, you wouldn't screaming for them to double-shift Asham-Rupp-Brylin.

What I do find humorous is that the exact same people (not here, -or at least not just here-), the people saying that the Patriots are so good that they should play their second string in the second half are the same people that you have to question how valid the Patriots past Superbowls were given video-gate. It's just Patriots hate. Or in Crasher's case (and Hasan's for that matter) it's Belichick hate.

Up 35-14 on the Titans last year Dallas continued to pour it on.... did they pull Bledsoe? Nope. No way. They kept it comin'..... scoring 10 more points and making it a slaughter. Classless bastards.

All of the analysts had it right.... if you are an NFL team you have one goal. To secure the win. Not to make the nancy's happy worrying about the other teams feelings.

I'm at a team Canada game with Canada up 8-0 and I'm screaming my lungs out for a ninth goal.... no mercy. Classy? Maybe not. But neither is hoping for a league mvp candidate to get injured.


God Don I agree with like everything you say anymore its kind of scary
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:34 PM

Wow chickensh!t announcers who work for the worst sports network in history kissing up and sniveling for the Patriots... yeah that makes me feel better... ESPN's been an embarrassment and ruining sports singlehandedly since Disney bought them in 2000-ish

then again I don't expect anyone in the media to call it what it IS... if they do they lose their precious post and pre-game interviews, or they're all ex-players who lack the guts to call it out!

and I'd love to see this "power rankings" that had this crap Dolphins in the top 10, lord knows I didn't!
then again the psychic who can predict injuries and all the other mishaps and crazy crap that happens in an NFL Season (Like Vinny the Color Blind starting AGAIN in the NFL)... i'd like to MEET them and swipe some lotto numbers from their brain!!
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:36 PM

Wow chickensh!t announcers who work for the worst sports network in history kissing up and sniveling for the Patriots... yeah that makes me feel better... ESPN's been an embarrassment and ruining sports singlehandedly since Disney bought them in 2000-ish

then again I don't expect anyone in the media to call it what it IS... if they do they lose their precious post and pre-game interviews, or they're all ex-players who lack the guts to call it out!

and I'd love to see this "power rankings" that had this crap Dolphins in the top 10, lord knows I didn't!
then again the psychic who can predict injuries and all the other mishaps and crazy crap that happens in an NFL Season (Like Vinny the Color Blind starting AGAIN in the NFL)... i'd like to MEET them and swipe some lotto numbers from their brain!!

Not dolphins... but redskins were 10
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:41 PM

Up 35-14 on the Titans last year Dallas continued to pour it on.... did they pull Bledsoe? Nope. No way. They kept it comin'..... scoring 10 more points and making it a slaughter. Classless bastards.

I'm at a team Canada game with Canada up 8-0 and I'm screaming my lungs out for a ninth goal.... no mercy. Classy? Maybe not. But neither is hoping for a league mvp candidate to get injured.

http://sports.yahoo....gid=20061001010

Here I looked up the game:

3rd Quarter:
11:53 DAL TD Julius Jones rushed up the middle for 5 yard gain (Mike Vanderjagt made PAT) 21 - 6

6:38 DAL TD Marion Barber III rushed to the left for 1 yard gain (Mike Vanderjagt made PAT) 28 - 6

3:40 TEN TD Vince Young passed to Ben Troupe to the right for 17 yard gain (2pt attempt converted, Vince Young run up the middle) 28 - 14

(now 28-14 start of the 4th is still plenty in reach mind you.... )

4th Quarter
13:04 DAL FG Mike Vanderjagt kicked a 43-yard field goal 31 - 14 :giggle:

8:23 DAL TD Bradie James intercepted Vince Young for 15 yards (Mike Vanderjagt made PAT) 38 - 14

5:43 DAL TD Tyson Thompson rushed up the middle for 7 yard gain (Mike Vanderjagt made PAT) 45 - 14

So Dallas runs the 3rd string RB after Vince Young throws an INT that goes for 6, but that's running up the score.... try again Don

or maybe check a box score before you call in blind numbers!

and if you want to run up the score in a game that's long over.. RUN THE DAMN BALL... Lord knows the Patriots need the help in the running game for when the weather turns to crap in New England!

and IF the Devils were up 6-0 on anyone I'd BEG them to save the goals for the next game... they might NEED them :P
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:59 PM

If the Devils were up 6-0 on the Rangers, you wouldn't screaming for them to double-shift Asham-Rupp-Brylin.


I would just want them to play keepaway with the puck and keep punks like Avery away from Marty and Zach :P

The thing I don't get is people who think just because the Patriots go 19-0 this year and outscore opponents by 30 a game that it somehow glosses over the fact that they did cross the line in prior years and it did have an effect on their other championships. How much of an effect is debateable but if it didn't help then why would they even bother to do it?

Hell they were doing it this year too and god knows they haven't exactly needed it this season with the talent they've assembled...although for all we know they could still be doing it only in more subtle ways. Just like a juicer on 'roids, just because he comes up clean doesn't mean he's still not doing stuff that can't be tested for.

But what exactly does throwing the ball with Brady on fourth down when the score is 38-0 accomplish exactly? Or 45-0? It's not even a good barometer for those that want to use the practice excuse, there's no way the Redskins expected them to be throwing the ball in those situations. And they also rolled up the score on the Jets even before Spygate came out in Week 1, but he was just doing that to be a p-ick to one team in particular.

BTW if Peyton Manning was on the field late in a 38-0 game and he got hurt and was out for the season wouldn't Tony Dungy get ripped from here to kingdom com? And rightly so. Why should Belicheat's ego be immune from criticism for putting his first-stringers in unneccesary situations?

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:26 PM

I love how naive you are. You actually think the Patriots are the only ones who video tape? The patriots are the only ones dumb enough to do it in a way to get caught. lol you really don't think there the only ones who were doing this right? It isn't exactly the most clever idea and it is only a matter of time before another team gets caught.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:33 PM

you really think the whole running up the score is based on the videotape thing???

not really... did it MOTIVATE the Patriots... sure... but is the dislike based on this??

Not really... it's about a team beating up on a team already beaten when it's time to put the second stringers in and run the ball and chew up some clock...

... meanwhile while all this is going on... there is one HELL of a football game going on NOW!
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TWO TIME (2005, 2006) Award Winner and the man who can show Jeremy Roenick what a REAL loudmouth is all about.... hell this mouth roars SO loud, they retired the DAMN AWARD!!!! But how do you be emotional about an award for being most emotional when you're sharing it?

2008 NJDevs Stanley Cup Winner for best overall poster... where's my damn ring?

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:35 PM

Yea nice pressure kick by Elam to tie the game with no time left on the clock. Running that last quarterback draw almost backfired but they executed the switch perfectly.

What a pass by Farve to win the game. You just have to love this guy.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:37 PM

I would just want them to play keepaway with the puck and keep punks like Avery away from Marty and Zach :P

The thing I don't get is people who think just because the Patriots go 19-0 this year and outscore opponents by 30 a game that it somehow glosses over the fact that they did cross the line in prior years and it did have an effect on their other championships. How much of an effect is debateable but if it didn't help then why would they even bother to do it?

Hell they were doing it this year too and god knows they haven't exactly needed it this season with the talent they've assembled...although for all we know they could still be doing it only in more subtle ways. Just like a juicer on 'roids, just because he comes up clean doesn't mean he's still not doing stuff that can't be tested for.

But what exactly does throwing the ball with Brady on fourth down when the score is 38-0 accomplish exactly? Or 45-0? It's not even a good barometer for those that want to use the practice excuse, there's no way the Redskins expected them to be throwing the ball in those situations. And they also rolled up the score on the Jets even before Spygate came out in Week 1, but he was just doing that to be a p-ick to one team in particular.

BTW if Peyton Manning was on the field late in a 38-0 game and he got hurt and was out for the season wouldn't Tony Dungy get ripped from here to kingdom com? And rightly so. Why should Belicheat's ego be immune from criticism for putting his first-stringers in unneccesary situations?


excellent post and I agree wholeheartedly, this is exactly what I've been trying to express...it's uncalled for and if kharma comes back to bite them in the @$$ then it'll be what they deserve...
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:40 PM

excellent post and I agree wholeheartedly, this is exactly what I've been trying to express...it's uncalled for and if kharma comes back to bite them in the @$$ then it'll be what they deserve...

Um... Brady got out of the game with no injury... the Pats dont play the Skins anymore.... sooooo how is this kharma gonna come back and bit them in the ass unless someone falls to true busch league play and just takes a run at Brady?
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:44 PM

If someone takes a run at Brady and injures him, that player is going to be banished from the league.... this league needs its star players to be the star players. But I'm sure that if he gets paralyzed from the neck down UDX will be dancing in the streets...
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:45 PM

Eh if karma was really going to bite the Patriots in the rear end the Jets would be the team with three SB's going on four and Belis-it would be unemployed :P

BTW I killed Rutgers for pulling the same crap too (calling timeouts to get the ball back against Norfolk State with a 45-0 lead already) and they're one of my teams per se. Everyone and their grandmother knows at what point a 'contest' is truly over.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:05 PM

[b]Damn we
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 12:42 AM

:rolleyes: ok, I'm not condoning nor do I want anyone to get injured, I'm just saying what goes around comes around and if they are playing their starters into the 4th qtr with a 4 TD lead and a player gets over aggressive it could easily turn into something that it shouldn't....there have been many a time when players have gotten injured for being overly aggressive because they were pissed and it ended up badly.....and really...banned from the league? really? that's a bit overstated...

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 12:07 PM

New England is probably the best team I have ever seen play (includes the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboy, Redskin era's).

If teams want to whine about them running up the score then they should just STOP THEM. Belichek has this team focused with an us against the league mentality.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 12:09 PM

New England is probably the best team I have ever seen play (includes the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboy, Redskin era's).

If teams want to whine about them running up the score then they should just STOP THEM. Belichek has this team focused with an us against the league mentality.



So..Your saying that, this Pats team would beat the 70's Steelers or the 80's 49niners?

I know its three different generations..But , calling them the best team that you have seen,, I think its too premature... We should see them play in the Playoffs, and wait.
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