Wow I didnt realize you were in the front office for th Pats or work for the NFL. Can I see the tapes from all those chamionships I mean you said they have been doing since 2000 so I am assuming you have some proof right? If noone else was doing this kind of thing then why did the league warn everyone in the preseason about this kind of behavior? But come on lets get some proof of the "strategy" going on since 2000 because I am dieing to read this. You say one thing to me and then make the same type of accusation this is going no where. Face it this all amounts to jealousy. While your hung up on this garbage everyone else is talking about how this is one of the greatest teams of all time. This kind of stuff just makes fans of other teams feel better about themselves but really move on.
Here we go:http://www.post-gaze...id=steelers.xml
Steelers coaches, who asked not to be identified, have suspected for a long time that the Patriots used such a device to gain an illegal advantage, although they did not file a complaint with the league.
One assistant said the Steelers changed their defensive signals whenever they played against New England because of their suspicions.
January 2002: Patriots defeat Steelers in AFC Championship Game. Steelers receiver Hines Ward now says the Patriots "knew a lot of our calls."
December 2004: Patriots defeat Bengals 35-28 at Gillette Stadium. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis later said his team's headsets went out during the game.
February 2005: Patriots defeat Eagles in Super Bowl. Players on the Eagles now say they were amazed at the Patriots' ability to know which defensive calls were coming.
January 2006: Patriots defeat Jaguars in playoffs. Jaguars get two delay-of-game penalties early in the game, and Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio later says, "Our coach-to-quarterback system mysteriously malfunctioned the entire first half."
January 2006: Jets hire Mangini as head coach.
October 2006: Bills lose to Patriots, suspect cheating but don't report it.
November 2006: Packers president Bob Harlan receives tip that Patriots use a cameraman to steal signals. Packers catch Patriots employee Matt Estrella with a camera on the sidelines and tell him to leave the sideline. Packers later catch Estrella filming from a tunnel and remove him from the stadium completely.
December 2006: Patriots beat Lions in a surprisingly close game at Gillette Stadium. Lions later say their headsets malfunctioned at key times in two consecutive offensive drives.
Last year the Lions played the Patriots in Foxboro. At one point their coach, Rod Marinelli, phoned up to the press box, "There's a camera pointed right at our defensive coach making his calls. Is that allowed?" A Lions' employee called the NFL booth. No, it certainly was not. So the videotaper was stopped. Then after a while he began again. The same process was repeated and he was asked to stop again. Now that's dedication.
"You don't really know for sure," Marinelli said. "I mean you don't know whether he might be doing something for NFL Films or a coaches' show or whatever."
"At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots," said one Lion who doesn't want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. "Mike Martz really had 'em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches' booth goes out.
"Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive."
Matt Millen, the Lions' GM, was talking to Bengals' coach Marvin Lewis at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.
"Yeah, I know," Lewis said. "Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too."
Marinelli was the defensive line coach in Tampa Bay when the Bucs beat the Patriots in the 2000 regular season opener and did a good job controlling New England's offense. After the game the Patriots' offensive coach, Charlie Weis, was overheard congratulating the Bucs' defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin.
"We knew all your calls, and you still stopped us," Weis said. "I can't believe it."
He couldn't believe it because the Patriots had videotaped all of the defensive signals in their last preseason game, which was against the Bucs.
The stories are all coming out now, but why hadn't all this been reported to the league office before this?
"At the time, you never know for sure," Millen said. "And if you don't know it at the time, then you don't feel right reporting it later."
There's more proof that the Pats have been doing this for years, than any kind of proof by other teams doing it.
Here you go.
(And.. I can't say the pats have been doing this 100%, I just took quotes out of Coachs/Players, and some facts, against the Pats. And, for that reason, there's a lot of proof.)
Don't feel so greety.
Edited by TravisZajac, 07 November 2007 - 04:45 PM.