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[Jimmy Leeds]

maybe not that. but lets not have prison being a great school for petty first time criminals to learn the trade for real from the experts

That's why convicts are classified. There is a whole host of different levels of prisons. A first timer on a low level charge won't be doing hard time at Trenton State, or Rahway, etc.

[RowdyFan42]

I think what Comandante might be getting at is this: What's the point of prison? Is it simply a storage locker for society's refuse, or are we still clinging on to the idea of rehabilitation for some of these people? If the latter is true, perhaps conditions should be more conducive toward achieving that goal rather than being a place to sit and rot.

[Camden28]

Prisons are BIG business and more and more convicts are becoming corporate slave/cheap labor. Manufacturing and service jobs are being cut so that prisoners now take your airline reservations and make your clothes.

There are presently 80,000 inmates in the US employed in commercial activity, some earning as little as 21 cents an hour.

The US government program Federal Prison Industries (FPI) currently employs 21,000 inmates, an increase of 14 percent in the last two years alone. FPI inmates make a wide variety of products—such as clothing, file cabinets, electronic equipment and military helmets—which are sold to federal agencies and private companies. FPI sales are $600 million annually and rising, with over $37 million in profits.

In addition, during the last 20 years more than 30 states have passed laws permitting the use of convict labor by commercial enterprises. These programs now exist in 36 states.

Prisoners now manufacture everything from blue jeans, to auto parts, to electronics and furniture. Honda has paid inmates $2 an hour for doing the same work an auto worker would get paid $20 to $30 an hour to do. Konica has used prisoners to repair copiers for less than 50 cents an hour. Toys R Us used prisoners to restock shelves, and Microsoft to pack and ship software. Clothing made in California and Oregon prisons competes so successfully with apparel made in Latin America and Asia that it is exported to other countries.

[LetsGoDevils]

In addition, during the last 20 years more than 30 states have passed laws permitting the use of convict labor by commercial enterprises. These programs now exist in 36 states.

[Jimmy Leeds]

And it teaches them necessary skills.

[Devilish34]

That explains the hole in the arse on my new Levis.
I thought it was a defect

[MantaRay]

Who would have thought that the US models it's new economy based on China.

[Camden28]

Plus, its a great way to keep American wages down and corporate profits up!!!

[Devilish34]

The Life Penalty

This guy should be dead

KILLER'S HOPES TORMENT VICTIM'S FAMILY
By MAUREEN FAULKNER
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December 21, 2007 -- TWENTY-SIX years and counting: That's how long my family, my friends and I have been tormented by Mumia Abu-Jamal - the man who murdered my husband, Police Officer Danny Faulkner, by shooting him in the back as he lay wounded and helpless on the pavement.

He then put a gun to Danny's forehead and squeezed off a final shot.

The same rare ammo that killed my husband was found in Abu-Jamal's gun, which was registered in his name and recovered by police at his side, just 70 seconds after the fatal shot was fired.

Twenty-six years and counting: That's how long I've had to listen to the lies and distortions of those who find the facts and trial testimony irrelevant. Everything from stories of a phantom killer whom none of the five eyewitnesses saw, to a man who said he spoke to my husband after he was shot even though he died instantly, to a supposed hit man hired by the Mafia to kill my husband.

Everything and anything to cloud the waters, stall the legal process and garner misguided support for a guilty killer.

[Jimmy Leeds]

Mumia scum should have been slowly executed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, and typical for some liberals, they pick up a story like this and champion a cop killer. It's the usually Hollywood liberals, as well as simple minded people who are used by various anarchist groups to broadcast how this killer was "railroaded" by the racist justice system.

I would post on Mumia's web page with simple questions about facts of the case and they would simply delete them.

He should be executed NOW.

[MantaRay]

Apparently, prison slave labor is also now being used on Farms according to the Christian Science Monitor.


http://www.csmonitor...14s02-wmgn.html

[Devilish34]

It's called work release and part of rehab.

[MantaRay]

It's called work release and part of rehab.

Its called slave labor, these people are inmates.

[LOULAM1]

Its called slave labor, these people are inmates.

Inmates who killed, raped and decided to choose a life of crime. Go ahead and throw out the f'in socio-economic crap and how it's the taxpayer's fault for not paying out enough cash to make sure these arsewhipe criminals had enough meds (between smoking their a crap pipe or dropping a needle in their arm) to keep them sedated!

"Slave labor", F^CK THAT! These bastards should be cleaning every public toilet in Trenton as a service to the state, the taxpayer and most of all the family of those effected by his or her crimes!

Manta, go live in your utopian society were the socialists all live and play happily together... Canada! In this country, you are given a great opportunity to make something out of yourself rich or poor and if you kill or rape, your game is and should be over!

Enough of this I hate corporation's and prisons are big money... BIG MONEY TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, NOT THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR! Taxpayers pay while the criminals play and this liberal f'in state is worse than CA!

[Don]

Manta, go live in your utopian society were the socialists all live and play happily together... Canada!

W00t!!!

Hey, Manta.. there's a house up for sale just down the street..... you can use my pool when I'm on vacation.

[point]

Without the death penalty, Mumia would have been locked up, quietly suffering his dwindling days, one by one; instead of becoming the cause celebre that he has. With 26 years of appeals, probably more than one public defender has retired, working on this case his entire career.

[redruM]

I support the Death penalty... if you are going to use it... NJ has proven they wil lnever use it even though people have actually been senteced to death. The cost of housing the inmates on death row for 20 years, which I beleove at least 2 inmates have been, plus the legal cost to fight all the appeals, would probably house 20 inmates in the regualr pop for 20 years.

Either use it like Texas or just get rid of it!!!

[MantaRay]

W00t!!!

Hey, Manta.. there's a house up for sale just down the street..... you can use my pool when I'm on vacation.

Thanks for the heads up Don, but I think maybe LouScams could use it more, it got to be better than his current living conditions in his mothers basement.

[Jimmy Leeds]

Thanks for the heads up Don, but I think maybe LouScams could use it more, it got to be better than his current living conditions in his mothers basement.

Get Camden28 in here and you have a bonafide Circle Jerk.