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[Satans Hockey]

So I had the wonderful pleasure of attending the Royal Rumble last night at MSG with the thought that I would be Cena free for a couple of months, well the WWE shoved Cena down our throats yet again as he came out at #30 and virtually threw everyone out of the ring and YET AGAIN OVERCAME THE ODDS!!! because John Cena just came back from having done to surgery to his arm but Cena is God so it doesn't matter.

There was no need whatsoever for Cena to win the Rumble, I didn't want HHH or Batista or Taker to win it either. I wanted someone new, someone who could have used a push, you take your pick I don't really care who for the most part.

The Rumble should be used to elevate guys to main event status. I don't really care for the most part to argue over who should have been elevated but Kennedy as a face, not a heel, would have been a great choice to get someone into main event status because of the fact he is good on the mic and he can go in the ring plus with him winning the MITB last year and him getting screwed out of it due to bad luck I thought he deserved the push. Matt Hardy, CM Punk, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, John Morrison would have also been ok with me for guys deserving a push but I just thought Kennedy should get it since he had won MITB and got screwed out of it and never got a title shot.

Go look at the old rumble winners, some which weren't main event guys just yet...Yokozuna, HBK, Austin and Batista all won the Rumble before they became main eventers and before they won the WWE championship belt for the first time. Also Benoit and Rey(who were main eventers for the most part already) won the Rumble before they got their first title reigns in WWE.

I could keep this rant going on forever. I am just so sick of seeing Cena month after month overcome the odds and I thought everything was going pretty good with out him, ratings and ppv buyrates stayed at the normal numbers with Cena's absence. I have tickets to Raw tonight in Philly and I honestly don't even want to go just to see Cena come out first and have to listen to his boring ass promos about how he overcame sh!t again. I'm also going to WrestleMania 24 and I am really considering not even bothering. I'm disgusted right now with how sh!t went down last night, yes it was a surprise but almost the entire crowd booed the sh!t out of him after the initial shock of him coming out. You could hear it when he was throwing punches with HHH, people were booing when Cena hit HHH but everyone was screaming yeahhhhh when HHH hit Cena. The crowd outside had non stop Cena sucks chants.

On the bright side at least The Not So Great Khali got the appropriate response from the crowd, with everyone chanting you cant wrestle at him.

Edited by Satans Hockey, 16 February 2008 - 03:24 AM.

[Devils731]

It was very strange. Before the event started everyone chants Cena sucks, then he comes out to a huge chant, then everyone chants against him again, then it's mixed for a bit, then everyone is against Cena some more, and then Cena wins to a huge ovation. What was going on with that? Crowd seemed very pro-HHH until Cena won, very strange. Cena is just awful but I think he is profitable and since he isn't an exciting wrestler or mic guy so he really needs to be the guy that just doesn't lose or he would lose luster very quickly.

At least the rest of the matches went my way, especially with a little bit of Edge love.

I haven't read any reports yet but when Hardy and Orton messed up their big spot on the outside of the ring and then the match ended right after I was wondering if either of them hurt themselves. Hardy was really vulnerable and Orton put himself in a bad spot to try and help Hardy out. I guess I'll find out tonight if anything did happen.

[CRASHER]

I have to admit... NOTHING brightens my day more then the pissed off blinded Cena haters, they are always fun to laugh at!!

The shock of Cena being back (reports had him out till May... hell he could STILL be hurt and they are using this to turn HHH heel and have him give a massive beatdown on Raw tonight to start the turn)

I am annoyed now #30 has won twice in a row though

I thought this was the best show the WWE has put on in a LONG TIME personally and I'd buy it even if I wasn't being a royal rumble completest like I am now!

Though the whole Vickie/Edge thing skeeves me, I thought it would be cool if Vickie ripped out the line WELL I HATE YOU REY CAUSE YOU'RE STILL HERE AND EDDIE ISN'T (I don't wanna hear that being over the line cause Vince is talking about running an incest angle... but she says that and she gets MONSTER heat!)

[Satans Hockey]

I have to admit... NOTHING brightens my day more then the pissed off blinded Cena haters, they are always fun to laugh at!!

The shock of Cena being back (reports had him out till May... hell he could STILL be hurt and they are using this to turn HHH heel and have him give a massive beatdown on Raw tonight to start the turn)

I am annoyed now #30 has won twice in a row though

I thought this was the best show the WWE has put on in a LONG TIME personally and I'd buy it even if I wasn't being a royal rumble completest like I am now!

Though the whole Vickie/Edge thing skeeves me, I thought it would be cool if Vickie ripped out the line WELL I HATE YOU REY CAUSE YOU'RE STILL HERE AND EDDIE ISN'T (I don't wanna hear that being over the line cause Vince is talking about running an incest angle... but she says that and she gets MONSTER heat!)

I hated him since he came in as the rapper, I was one of the few cheering for big show at the garden at wm 20. Does he not overcome some insane odds every time? Does he not for almost every match get his ass kicked and than come back with his same old moves and win the match? His promos aren't good and after every ppv, the next night at Raw he would come out first and say the champ is here and talk about how he overcame the odds. How is that blind hate? I'm hating on the gimmick and the story lines the WWE puts him, thats why I hate John Cena. He should come back as a heel but Vince would rather keep his 2nd coming of Hulk Hogan on top some more. Don't you miss seeing new guys get elevated to main event status?

Overall the show was weak, Ric Flair should had stayed retired when he first retired years ago. The JBL/Y2J thing was weak and way too short. The Rey-Edge match was the best actual match cause the Hardy-Orton match was way too short. Santino should be a heel but that segment should have been saved for Raw and not 1 of the big 4 ppvs.

Edited by Satans Hockey, 28 January 2008 - 01:01 PM.

[Devils731]

I liked the show last night but I also don't like Cena and don't think it's due to some blind hatred. Edge/Rey was definitely the best match, crowd was very split but both sides really into it. Good ending and and good in ring story telling by both guys.

I think the Hardy/Orton match was cut short because they either are or thought they were hurt when they messed up the spot out of the ring.

[Satans Hockey]

I liked the show last night but I also don't like Cena and don't think it's due to some blind hatred. Edge/Rey was definitely the best match, crowd was very split but both sides really into it. Good ending and and good in ring story telling by both guys.

I think the Hardy/Orton match was cut short because they either are or thought they were hurt when they messed up the spot out of the ring.

I wasn't really surprised at how much Rey got booed and how Edge was cheered so muchy. We kinda like our heels in the NY/NJ area.

[Devils731]

I wasn't really surprised at how much Rey got booed and how Edge was cheered so muchy. We kinda like our heels in the NY/NJ area.

Edge is my number 1 guy when it comes to WWE so I'll cheer him Face or Heel. I'm also pretty much bored with Rey so I'll boo him face or heel for the most part.

[CRASHER]

Yeah I root for who I root for regardless of alignment

and from my opinions (and sitting in a packed Hooters for PPV after PPV, you see a lot of people)... it's been way too much the "cool thing to too" to boo Cena and pretend to be a smart fan

and you want to talk about untalented fvckos who overcame the odds that didn't deserve it.. HULK HOGAN!!

Cena is a HUNDRED times the worker that ungrateful douche is!!!

I can't disagree on Flair but I like the lose and you're done gimmick
just a matter of intrigue on who gets to end the run... (better NOT be Vince)

I was rooting for Rey cause I wanted to see Punk interfere and cost Edge the belt cause a Punk/Edge feud would OWN! (though I think GTS is the worst finisher in wrestling today)

sadly now Jericho is stuck in a go NOWHERE feud with a guy who should be announcing matches

least it's better then Stone Cold Sharkboy and Jay Lethal losing his smile...

[Satans Hockey]

Yeah I root for who I root for regardless of alignment

and from my opinions (and sitting in a packed Hooters for PPV after PPV, you see a lot of people)... it's been way too much the "cool thing to too" to boo Cena and pretend to be a smart fan

and you want to talk about untalented fvckos who overcame the odds that didn't deserve it.. HULK HOGAN!!

I agree Hulk Hogan is just as bad, but that was a different time period in wrestling....which should be dead and buried. Cena doesn't sell very well and is a bit stiff in the ring. I don't think its the cool thing to do to boo Cena I just think people are sick of seeing him dominating and everyone over the age of 15 can watch some wrestling and realize he isn't even that good. His promos are him just coming out and saying exactly what he is going to do, than he makes some jokes that aren't funny, than he yells and shakes his face when he gets mad. It's so bland and boring. This will be the 3rd main event Cena has been in at WM and Taker-Batista should have been the main event last year.

[CRASHER]

I'm willing to bet even money that HHH beats the piss out of him tonight and Cena will be out of 'Mania, and causing a MASSIVE mess into the main event scene at Mania anyway (and works an elimination chamber match for No Way Out and the #1 contender)

[Satans Hockey]

I'm willing to bet even money that HHH beats the piss out of him tonight and Cena will be out of 'Mania, and causing a MASSIVE mess into the main event scene at Mania anyway (and works an elimination chamber match for No Way Out and the #1 contender)

That works for me. I like HHH more as a heel.

btw why was Chavo in the rumble, that sure did make the ECW belt look like its really worthless, at least last year Lashley wasn't in the rumble match and taker even showed up at ECW to make believe he may challenge Lashley for the ECW belt. I believe Chavo came in and threw Punk out which makes sense to a degree but I still don't think the ECW champ should have been in it.

Edited by Satans Hockey, 28 January 2008 - 01:56 PM.

[CRASHER]

That works for me. I like HHH more as a heel.

btw why was Chavo in the rumble, that sure did make the ECW belt look like its really worthless.

Yeah, but he's still gonna take up too much of the Farooqing show ANYWAY
and with H heel, who goes after Orton?
Unless Hardy wins a rematch.. that's a disaster in the making

I think one of the spots was supposed to be for Lashley and since he's going to MMA they improvised

and the ECW Belt is worthless.... sadly

[njdevils2003champs]

Thank God I didnt go.

[Devils731]

Thank God I didnt go.

It was a great show

[brodeurrocks]

I had to clean my glasses....a wrestling thread NOT started by Crasher?

[CRASHER]

I had to clean my glasses....a wrestling thread NOT started by Crasher?

it's been a long tough month for me

then again the rumble was the first PPV I watched from the WWE since Summer Slam....

[TravisZajac]

I used to follow and watch Wrestling last year(Edge fan.) but I just gave it up during October 2007. I was so fvcking sick of Cena.. Really, that guy can't promo, can't wrestle, can't be good on the mic.. He repeats always the 5moves.. I mean, just fire him! That would be so dreamy.

Isn't Vince knowing that Cena isn't real appreciated by real wrestling fans, not 14less Ados and kids who likes Cena because of all the "MARINE" and toys the WWE made of him?

[CRASHER]

Money TALKS
Cena makes the E a LOT of money
people pay to cheer him
people pay to see him die

bottom line... as long as he does that.. he's gonna be on top

and come on... if Cena wasn't Superman it would be the HHH show which is WORSE

[Satans Hockey]

Money TALKS
Cena makes the E a LOT of money
people pay to cheer him
people pay to see him die

bottom line... as long as he does that.. he's gonna be on top

and come on... if Cena wasn't Superman it would be the HHH show which is WORSE

I never pay to see him die, I pay cause I like a lot of the other guys on the card and sadly Cena just happens to be on the shows I go to.

HHH is never everrrrrrrrr worse than Cena. HHH can at least make guys have good and entertaining matches, something that Cena will probably never do.

Another thing for all the sh!t talking that gets said about HHH the guy loses just as much as he wins. Just look at what he has done since 2004...
Taps to Benoit at WM 20
Benoit remains champ by beating HHH at Backlash 2004
HHH beats Orton at Unforgiven 2004
belt becomes vacant in nov. 04
HHH wins at New Years 05
HHH loses the belt to Batista at WM 21
HHH loses in rematches at Backlash 2005 and Vengeance 2005 to Batista
HHH taps to John Cena at WM 22
he also took the pinfall in a championship match to Cena at Backlash 2006
he beat Orton for the belt and lost 2hrs or so later No Way Out 2007
he lost clean to Jeff Hardy at Armageddon 2007
he got eliminated by Cena in the Royal Rumble 2008


say what you will about HHH but he has only had 1 title reign since WM 21 and that reign was about 2hrs or so long and the guy is willing to put over people and he has great matches doing it. He loses just as much as he wins of late. People just tend to bitch about him cause of all these dirtsheet rumors posted on the internet saying how much control he has and blah blah.

Edited by Satans Hockey, 07 February 2008 - 11:47 PM.

[CRASHER]

say what you will about HHH but he has only had 1 title reign since WM 21 and that reign was about 2hrs or so long and the guy is willing to put over people and he has great matches doing it. He loses just as much as he wins of late. People just tend to bitch about him cause of all these dirtsheet rumors posted on the internet saying how much control he has and blah blah.

HHH is MILLIONS of times worse then Cena:
1. he's guaranteed to be in the main event forever
2. no he's not held the title, but ask about what happened to the Chris Jericho push and world title reign... ask Booker T, Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar about him too while you're at it
3. Cena is the ultimate and best spokesperson for this company in AND OUT of the ring... case in point... Vince just gave a 5 minute speech on Chris Benoit and admitting he was a murderer and how he will never be seen or mentioned on their TV again.. guess who gets the all-important first match to make people feel better.... yeup... Cena!!

and HHH as a worker has NEVER been the same since blown quad #1