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[nmigliore]

A lot of those are good CR I'll gladly take my 'label' and agree with 7's and Satans as well.

For lol I don't want to use the Yankee comparison so I'll say Paul LoDuca (without the 'roids)...that guy's always been wired in good and bad.

731 same (don't want to use Boggs) so I'll say Damion Easley...always calm and measured, and not around often enough.

You are hard to pick actually at least if we're using current Mets, I may have to use a historical Met. Maybe Keith (the player), smart but intense at the same time and occasionally loses it being over-the-top

I had Keith in my mind for CR as well

LoDuca/Oneil are great picks for me, nice choices

[SatansDevils]

OK here's what I've got so far...someone else will have to come up with one for me, for objectivity's sake (and these are all for fun):

nmig: Paul O'Neill. Anyone who remembers Paul O'Neill with the Yankees knows how much he hated making an out, or even getting a strike called against him. No one got more upset about or hated watching a Met loss more than nmig. Only if the Mets go 162-0 will nmig truly be happy...as long as they're all shutout wins.

SD: Tug McGraw. We all know how Tug coined the "Believe" saying in 1973, as a last-place Met team went 16-7 over their last 23 games to win their division, beat the Big Red Machine and take the A's to seven games in losing the World Series. Even if the Mets were losing by 10 runs in the 9th in the last game of the season with everything on the line, SD would still get excited if, with two outs, Jose Reyes managed to leg out an infield hit...already he'd be thinking, "Nine ABs from now and we'll have the tying run coming to the plate!" The ultimate optimist and believer.

'7': Ramon Martinez. Nowhere to be found early on, then came ouot of nowhere to make a little noise.

D731: a Vulcan Wade Boggs. Smart but scientific almost to a fault. The only Met fan not to get frustrated with Beltran, pre-mid August or so.

Hasan: Carlos Beltran. Remember when Beltran threw that fit after taking that third strike a while back? No one saw that coming. That's Hasan...he's calm most of the time, but when he loses it, you never quite see it coming.

Ha ha good one there CR! I am a big Tug McGraw fan too.
I would also fall into the Paul O'Neill/Carlos Beltran category too as I did get emotional like lol and Hasan in many games this season especially when the Mets BP blows up which was often this season. I also was emotional when the Mets would win in dramatic fashion too. I would go with the Mets players as well so Keith Hernandez is part of me as well. It is a nice analisis CR and thanks. No problem being compared to Tug McGraw.

A lot of those are good CR I'll gladly take my 'label' and agree with 7's and Satans as well.

For lol I don't want to use the Yankee comparison so I'll say Paul LoDuca (without the 'roids)...that guy's always been wired in good and bad.

731 same (don't want to use Boggs) so I'll say Damion Easley...always calm and measured, and not around often enough.

You are hard to pick actually at least if we're using current Mets, I may have to use a historical Met. I'll go with my initial thought of Keith (the player), smart but intense at the same time and occasionally loses it being over-the-top

I agree as well for all that were mentioned.

Edited by SatansDevils, 30 September 2008 - 11:32 AM.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I had Keith in my mind for CR as well

LoDuca/Oneil are great picks for me, nice choices

Man...how did I miss Bug Eyes-Lo Duca?! I really thought his eyes were going to pop right out of his skull during that one game...I forget which one, but I know you guys know the game I'm talking about.

Having said that, I'm sticking with O'Neill because, like O'Neill, nmig hates losing, first and foremost. O'Neill expected to reach base every time up; nmig expects a win and the Mets' very best with each new game. Lo Duca strikes me as more of a loon more than anything else.

Keith for me...interesting choice. I like Keith a lot as a broadcaster, although I think he's probably a little more critical than I am. I like it though...thanks guys!

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 30 September 2008 - 11:42 AM.

[nmigliore]

Speaking of Keith (and Ron and Gary) I hope they are back next year, Keith is always hilarious. I think it was earlier on the year when Keith was telling a story about how he was in a hurricane

If anyone remembers that, it was hilarious

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Ha ha good one there CR! I am a big Tug McGraw fan too.
I would also fall into the Paul O'Neill/Carlos Beltran category too as I did get emotional like lol and Hasan in many games this season especially when the Mets BP blows up which was often this season. I also was emotional when the Mets would win in dramatic fashion too. I would go with the Mets players as well so Keith Hernandez is part of me as well. It is a nice analisis CR and thanks. No problem being compared to Tug McGraw.

I went with what attribute struck me first. I know you got emotional at times, but it was your optimism that really stuck out...I thought I was pretty optimistic too, but you definitely had me beat in that department.

Speaking of Keith (and Ron and Gary) I hope they are back next year, Keith is always hilarious. I think it was earlier on the year when Keith was telling a story about how he was in a hurricane

If anyone remembers that, it was hilarious

I'd be stunned if they weren't. They work well together, and Keith and Ron really lend great insights into what's happening on the field...and is it just me or does anyone else find the Yankee team unlistenable by comparison?

[nmigliore]

I went with what attribute struck me first. I know you got emotional at times, but it was your optimism that really stuck out...I thought I was pretty optimistic too, but you definitely had me beat in that department.




I'd be stunned if they weren't. They work well together, and Keith and Ron really lend great insights into what's happening on the field...and is it just me or does anyone else find the Yankee team unlistenable by comparison?

I rarely watch any Yankee games but when i turn it on they seem to not talk that much.. Who even does the games? the PBP is that Yankee homer (Michael Kay is it?) and i think Al Leiter ( ) and Paul Oneil? But man Gary/Keith/Ron are hilarious and maybe they talk too much and are even more homers, but they are great

BTW they had some interview with Keith/Darryl/Ronny (Cohen being the one interviewing them) about Shea Stadium (on SNY).. They talked about Game 6 and 7 of the '86 World Series and it was great and funny to hear some of their stories; Keith was pissed off after making the 2nd out and he went to the clubhouse cursing and sat in a chair and watched the rest of the game.. It was also hilarious to hear Keith's story about the parade the next day and how he almost missed it

Edited by nmigliore, 30 September 2008 - 11:57 AM.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I rarely watch any Yankee games but when i turn it on they seem to not talk that much.. Who even does the games? the PBP is that Yankee homer (Michael Kay is it?) and i think Al Leiter ( ) and Paul Oneil? But man Gary/Keith/Ron are hilarious and maybe they talk too much and are even more homers, but they are great

BTW they had some interview with Keith/Darryl/Ronny (Cohen being the one interviewing them) about Shea Stadium (on SNY).. They talked about Game 6 and 7 of the '86 World Series and it was great and funny to hear some of their stories; Keith was pissed off after making the 2nd out and he went to the clubhouse cursing and sat in a chair and watched the rest of the game.. It was also hilarious to hear Keith's story about the parade the next day and how he almost missed it

I saw a good chunk of that show. It was a lot more entertaining that I would have thought.

I know it was a little before your time nmig, but have you gotten to see any "classics" from '86? (I think they run them on SNY from time to time). If you ever get the opportunity try to check out any playoff game from that WS run.

I have a great book on the '86 team called "The Year The Bad Guys Won" or something like that. It was written by Jeff Perlman. Pick it up if you get the chance...it's great stuff.

And I have to admit, as a 16-year-old back in 1986 I never imagined in a million years that, as of 2008, they haven't won another one since. That '86 team looked like it was going to be a dynasty with their pitching. That group only got to one more playoff series ('88, against the Dodgers), and proceeded to lose to a team they had dominated during the regular season (they went 10-1 against the Dodgers). Unfortunately they ran into the magic of Orel Hershiser (that guy was ridiculous that year) and Mike Scioscia (despite not having much power, he found a way to hit a home run off Dwight Gooden that led to the Dodgers tying up the series 2-2...the Mets eventually lost in seven, with Darling getting shelled in the final game and Orel going the distance).

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 30 September 2008 - 12:15 PM.

[nmigliore]

I saw a good chunk of that show. It was a lot more entertaining that I would have thought.

I know it was a little before your time nmig, but have you gotten to see any "classics" from '86? (I think they run them on SNY from time to time). If you ever get the opportunity try to check out any playoff game from that WS run.

I have a great book on the '86 team called "The Year The Bad Guys Won" or something like that. It was written by Jeff Perlman. Pick it up if you get the chance...it's great stuff.

Not many games from '86, (except for Game 6 of the WS) everytime I tend to see a Met classic on SNY its from the 90's.

BTW they had a Met Shea-Marathon on MLB.tv (free though) on Saturday night.. They showed a bunch of Shea classic games, like the Piazza post-9/11 HR, the Ventura GS single in '99, Games 6 and 7 of the '86 WS and some others

Edited by nmigliore, 30 September 2008 - 12:13 PM.

[NJDevs4978]

The LoDuca bugeyes game was last year against Oakland, think it was the 1-0 Saturday game. I'll have to look for pictures of that later, that was something.

Oh and now that I think of it 731's got a lot of Rick Peterson in him too with all the outside the box stats.

[nmigliore]

I love how Francesca is making it as if the bullpen had no factor in the Mets not going to the playoffs.. Hes whining about how they blew a 2 game lead in the final homestand.. yet he ignores the fact the only reason the Mets were in such a tight situation was BECAUSE of the bullpen. Did anyone give him the memo about if the game ended after 8 innings (aka: IF WE HAD A FRIGGIN CLOSER LIKE KROD OR FUENTES) the Mets would've won the division by 5 or 6 games? EVEN with the bullpen being god-awful in the earlier innings.. Still would've won the division if we had a closer.

He also called Wright's year "bogus" ..

Edited by nmigliore, 30 September 2008 - 01:39 PM.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I love how Francesca is making it as if the bullpen had no factor in the Mets not going to the playoffs.. Hes whining about how they blew a 2 game lead in the final homestand.. yet he ignores the fact the only reason the Mets were in such a tight situation was BECAUSE of the bullpen. Did anyone give him the memo about if the game ended after 8 innings (aka: IF WE HAD A FRIGGIN CLOSER LIKE KROD OR FUENTES) the Mets would've won the division by 5 or 6 games? EVEN with the bullpen being god-awful in the earlier innings.. Still would've won the division if we had a closer.

He also called Wright's year "bogus" ..

Tri called it perfectly...Fatso is taking the troll angle and trying to tweak Met fans more than anything else. I caught the first hour or so, and Fatso, who's so friggin' fat that he blew a knee out and loses his voice halfway through every show, is trying to ship Wright and Reyes off to pretty much everyone and anyone. I love how he's already written off Wright and Reyes even though both are in their mid-20s...although I'll admit that Reyes' back-to-back poor Septembers are a little disconcerting.

What's funny is Captain Pompous is berating callers on not having the facts...yet Fatso will continue to talk about how Wright had a bad September, when the stats clearly show that he didn't. Hey Fat fvck...feel free to start talking about the bullpen and how THAT failed more than any other aspect of the team. I hope David Wright pops this jackass right in his overly Moussed skull. fvcking prick!

[NJDevs4978]

I had it on for a few minutes and a caller brought up how the Phillies traded Abreu and Mike was all over that as proof the Mets needed to trade Wright or Reyes...no it's more evidence they need to trade DELGADO. Abreu was a leader of the core then, trading him freed up the Utleys and Howards to take more of a leadership role. Adam Rubin brought up a similar point, that maybe trading Delgado (a leader in the clubhouse now) frees up Wright to take more of the leadership mantle - not entirely sure if that's the best thing but it's not a bad point of view.

As much as Mike wants to pooh-pooh Delgado's importance because of his age, the fact is he does have stature and moving him - especially off the year he had - DOES constitute a changing of the core.

fwiw I just read on another board that part of Francesa's anti-Wright diatribes stem from the fact that he criticized Wright earlier in the year for encouraging Delgado not to take a curtain call and Wright wouldn't come on the show to defend himself. Take that at face value, it's hardly the first time Francesa (and Russo) have ganged up on someone because they wouldn't play ball with them.

Edited by Hasan4978, 30 September 2008 - 05:33 PM.

[SatansDevils]

In other baseball news the Phillies closer Brad Lidge who was 41/41 received the player comeback of the year in the NL. Indians starting pitcher Cliff Lee received the comeback player of the year for the AL. All the more the Mets need to go out and get a dominant closer and that would be K-Rod! K-Rod would love it in NY with a new ballpark and all the dominicans/hispanics on this Mets team. he would really communicate well with the players and make lots of friends too.

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=3618087

[SatansDevils]

7th inning in Chicago and it is 1-0 White Sox over the Twins. White Sox HR by Jim Thome and they have men on 1st and 2nd with 1 out. The crowd in Chicago are all wearing black. Pretty cool.