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[sundstrom]

Unfortunately, I don't think a package of Gionta and Johnny would be enough.

Jussi Jokinen? That package sure isn't bringing back Olli Jokinen.

it's not enough:

zajac & gionta, greene + 3rd would do it though. i'd have to swallow hard on giving up on zajac, but seeing how much the atlantic has improved itself, the devils cannot make a minor cosmetic change and hope they catch lighting in a bottle and another Marty year like this one.

parise-elias-hossa
zubrus-jokinen-langenbrunner
pandolfo-madden-vrana
clarkson-rupp-brylin
pelley

martin-oduya
white-liles
vishnevski-salvador
mottau

brodeur
weekes

the aforementioned jokinen trade
hossa - 8/56
liles 6/28
pando 3/5
salvador 3/8
mottau 2/1.5

[SC Devs Fan]

I still love the optimism of a major FA coming here.

Lou will let the market shake out and try to pick up a bargain later.

I think trading Gio now would be a waste; in our minds he's still the Gio that scored 48 but to every other GM he's just a player who had a career year. If we deal him that's what we can expect to get back, not a bona fide scorer.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

the aforementioned jokinen trade
hossa - 8/56
liles 6/28
pando 3/5
salvador 3/8
mottau 2/1.5

Pandolfo, Mottau and to a lesser degree Salvador I could see happening. Who's going to kidnap Lou and make those other deals though? That old leopard isn't changing his spots at this point in the game.

[Triumph]

lou can't bargain hunt this year, last year he could. he doesn't have to get hossa or campbell but he has to get one of the top 15 players without a doubt.

my dream team includes hossa who is possible but almost certainly foolish.

so i won't put it here.

[USC09]

If Elias stays at center than

Malone/Elias Elias/Holik Malone/Bergfors/Vrana
Parise Zajac Langenbrunner
Pandolfo Madden Gionta
Zubrus Rupp Clarkson


Notes: I wouldn't mind bringing back Bobby Holik for Vet experience

Oduya Martin
Vishnevski Smith
White Liles
Extras: Corrente, Mottau(I would bring him back with a 2 year/$900K-$1M a year)

This would be a reasonable roster for Lou's standards. But realistically those moves would not happen. I mean I definitely think Lou will be active this summer, and yes I expect some movement on July 1st and not the sit back and enjoy every good name being taken off the market by the Flyers and the Rangers like he did last year. Right now we have to focus on June 20th, thats when the Draft is and who we will pick at #21, my prediction is John Carlson of the Indiana Ice.

[Devils Pride 26]

If Elias stays at center than

Malone/Elias Elias/Holik Malone/Bergfors/Vrana
Parise Zajac Langenbrunner
Pandolfo Madden Gionta
Zubrus Rupp Clarkson


Notes: I wouldn't mind bringing back Bobby Holik for Vet experience

Oduya Martin
Vishnevski Smith
White Liles
Extras: Corrente, Mottau(I would bring him back with a 2 year/$900K-$1M a year)

This would be a reasonable roster for Lou's standards. But realistically those moves would not happen. I mean I definitely think Lou will be active this summer, and yes I expect some movement on July 1st and not the sit back and enjoy every good name being taken off the market by the Flyers and the Rangers like he did last year. Right now we have to focus on June 20th, thats when the Draft is and who we will pick at #21, my prediction is John Carlson of the Indiana Ice.

Holik on the 1st line? shoot me

[ghdi]

Elias - Jokinen- Zubrus
Parise - Langkow - Brunette
Pandolfo - Madden - Vrana
Clarkson - Rupp - Radivojevic

Martin - Oduya
Smith - Hainsey
White - Vish


Zajac, Gionta, Greene and a pick to FL for Jokinen

Edited by ghdi, 19 May 2008 - 03:50 AM.

[Z-Man]

All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed.

Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year?

They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him.

Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind.

[sundstrom]

gionta absolutely has value - he scored 20 in his worst year. he is a legitamate top 6 forward even if sutter didn't use him there. he's well in line with his price structure. if florida is determined to deal jokinen while still trying to make the playoffs, gionta, zajac, and greene certainly accomplish that goal.

[SC Devs Fan]

Funny how fast everyone is giving up on Zajac, one of the only young forwards we have

[Devil Dan 56]

gionta absolutely has value - he scored 20 in his worst year. he is a legitamate top 6 forward even if sutter didn't use him there. he's well in line with his price structure. if florida is determined to deal jokinen while still trying to make the playoffs, gionta, zajac, and greene certainly accomplish that goal.

Gio can be a 30-35 guy with the right combination. I think he could come alive with the right passer. Look at that goal in Game 5. Thats the kind of stuff that got him 48. There is no doubt the Gio of late has been a different player. I'm also interested to see just what he does in this contract year. I actually liked the Zubrus-Zajac-Gionta line in the playoffs. Kind of a spare parts line of underachievers that i thought looked good together.

Also, Parise and Elias shouldn't be split up after the way they started to connect. I saw a bunch that had them apart. I could see the Devils finding someone that matches better with them than Langs.

Of course, leaving Zubes-Zaj-Gio together and replacing Langs on the top line means the Cap'n is on the 4th or checking, haha. I'd love to see Parise-Elias-Gio again. They looked good early in the year.

[MantaRay]

Lemieux-Gretzky-Bobby Hull
C. Lemieux-Lemaire-Lafleur
Sakic-Yzerman-Br. Hull
Clarke-Tikkanen-Schultz

Stevens-Nieds
Fetisov-Kasatonov
Robinson-S. Savard

Brodeur
Roy

[Devils Pride 26]

All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed.

Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year?

They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him.

Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a dream roster, as in we know this won't happen?

[MantaRay]

All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed.

Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year?

They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him.

Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind.

Agreed, which why most teams will wait until after the season to get him cheap, get him a real center and watch him put up 30+ goals again.

[Martyisth3b3st]

Elias/Crosby/Gionta
Parise/Zajac/Kovalchuk
Malkin/Madden/Hossa
Nash/Gretzky/Langs

Martin/Orr
Stevens/Neids
Phaneuf/Webber

Brodeur
Leclaire

Trade:
Zubris Brylin and Rupp to the pens for Malkin and Crosby
Jonny Oduya straight up for Phaneuf
Trade weekes and Vishnevski to Columbus for Leclaire and Nash
Trade 3 2nd round pick in the next 3 drafts for Kovalachuk
Trade Brookbank and a 7th round in 2015 to Nashville
Convinve Stevens to return, pay leauge minimum
Build time travell device kidnapp Gretzky and Orr in Prime
Trade the remainder of the current roster players not listed to Anahime for Neids

WINNER!

[DevilinLA]

Mottau Kidding right?

Rupp ... Nice guy to teach the new AHL players how to adjust to the NHL but not a Devil next year.

So does Andy Greene have to skate backwards into Brodeur and kill him with a skate blade before some people are convinced that Mike Mottau has earned a spot before him????

[nmigliore]

has to be logical though take in the cap

elias stoll zubrus

parise zajac langs

pando madden vrana

rupp sarge clarkson

maritn pitkanen

white lilles

oduya smith

gionta bergfors and a 4th shipped for rfa contracts of stoll and pitkanen

devils win cup.

I like the D there but the offense still looks very bare to me.. I think Langs/Zubes/Zajac need to have bigger seasons for this team to succeed; Zajac had a tough Sophomore year, Langenbrunner never really found groove and consistency in scoring (although he was pretty good in shootouts), and Zubes NEVER had it going

some better post-season goaltending by Brodeur would help

[Devil Fan]

Tanguay-Parise-Langenbrunner
Elias-Zajac-Zubrus
Pando-Madden-Vrana
Brylin-Rupp-Clarkson

Warrener-Mottau
White-Martin
Oduay-Salvador
Greene

Gionta (4M) and Vishnevski (1.8M) to Calgary for Tanguay (5.25M) and Warrener (2.5M) as the Flames dump nearly 2M.

[emptynet]

Hate to say it but I dont see Gio coming back. He's going to be the key piece to any packages that involve getting a quality player in return.

Gionta and Zajac for Ollie? Who knows.

[Confusious]

Elias-Jokinen-Zubrus
Parise-Zajac-Langs
Pandolfo-Madden-Dupuis
Clarkson-Holik-Vrana

White-Liles

Corrente-Mottau

Smith-Martin

Gionta/Oduya traded in the Jokinen deal

That Brodeur guy in net

Agreed on the Jokinen trade.