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[Devil Dan 56]

Hate to say it but I dont see Gio coming back. He's going to be the key piece to any packages that involve getting a quality player in return.

Gionta and Zajac for Ollie? Who knows.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him gone soon. And I think no matter what, he still signs with NYR after next season and puts up 35 goals with Gomez centering him.

[Devil Dan 56]

edit... double post...

Edited by Devil Dan 56, 20 May 2008 - 11:10 AM.

[Triumph]

Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league.

Even the least valuable 35 goal scorer will get some value from a team like Columbus or St Louis, two teams that desperatly need secondary or primary goal scoring.

[Devils731]

Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league.

I don't know if that is completely true. Gionta could play the PK again, and do fairly well, which increases his value. He also plays good transition defense. His puck possesion, defensive physical pla, passing, and set play defense are not good at all but he does bring more to the table than just scoring.

[Triumph]

I don't know if that is completely true. Gionta could play the PK again, and do fairly well, which increases his value. He also plays good transition defense. His puck possesion, defensive physical pla, passing, and set play defense are not good at all but he does bring more to the table than just scoring.

not much more though. and passing is so much more valuable than all of that stuff.

what we're seeing now in the NHL is that almost every scorer can play the PK. sure guys like kovalchuk and ovechkin don't, but i imagine they could, and not do horribly. it just doesn't make much sense to do so.

[Devils731]

Tri, you just picked elite goal scorers with great physical skills, they aren't the typical non-valuable 35 goal scorer we're talking about here . I was really just nitpicking though, I tend to think Gionta would be middle-lower of 35 goals scorers in terms of value and not bottomish.

[Triumph]

of the 30+ goal scorers in the league this season, only Brad Boyes, Patrick Sharp, and Vinny Prospal are less valuable, imo - (had Gionta scored 30-35). I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that all 3 won't score 30 next season.

Thomas Vanek is close, but Vanek is only 24 and should be a consistent 30 goal man.

[empulse27]

Elias-Connolly-Gionta
Parise-Madden-Langs
Malone-Zubrus-Bergfors
Pandolfo-Zajac-Clarkson
Extra: Rupp

Martin-Oduya
Commodore-Liles
White-Mottau/Corrente

1. Re-sign Pando and Mottau, let go of everyone else while hoping Brylin declines his option/retires/plays in Europe
2. Trade Vishnevski, Pelley and 2nd or 3rd rounder to BUF for Tim Connolly
3. Sign Mike Commodore and JM Liles
4. Sign Ryan Malone
5. Bring up N. Bergfors and Matt Corrente
6. Trade Andy Greene for a late draft pick

Might not work in the salary cap because of Commodore or Liles, it really depends on the market/other deals similar players get

Edited by empulse27, 20 May 2008 - 07:55 PM.

[iamtheprodigy]

2. Trade Vishnevski, Pelley and 2nd or 3rd rounder to BUF for Tim Connolly

lol wut?

[sweDevil]

Elias-Jokinen-Zub
Parise-Langs-Vrbata
Madden-C.Kelly-Clarkson
Pandolfo-Rupp-Vrana

Martin-Oduya
Smith-Liles
Hainsey-Corrente

Brod
weeks
Zajac+1st for Jokinen(+Gio if needed)
Gio for a 2nd pick
White for 3-4 pick

[CMONPETEYD]

Lou's Dream Roster Next Yr

Vrana -- Bergfors -- Clarkson
Pandolfo -- Madden -- Brylin
Asham -- Rupp -- Tallackson
Khoumotov-- Zajac -- Zubrus

Corrente -- Fraser
Greene -- Visnevski
Mottau -- Brookbank

Brodeur
Weekes

[HellOnICE]

Lou's Dream Roster Next Yr

Vrana -- Bergfors -- Clarkson
Pandolfo -- Madden -- Brylin
Asham -- Rupp -- Tallackson
Khoumotov-- Zajac -- Zubrus

Corrente -- Fraser
Greene -- Visnevski
Mottau -- Brookbank

Brodeur
Weekes

Your are an imbecil.

[empulse27]

lol wut?

What do you mean? I think it's a fair deal for a very underrated player. Plus BUF saves money. It's a better deal than what sweDevil thinks is enough to get us Jokinen.