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#1 DevilNurn

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 11:49 AM

http://www.nhl.com/n...rticleid=381556

3. Paul Martin, New Jersey -- As one veteran defenseman leaves New Jersey, another seems to emerge. First Brian Rafalski stepped into Scott Niedermayer's shoes; when Rafalski left last summer, it was Martin's turn, and he was well-suited for the extra ice time.

While Martin's 23:53 was down from the 25:13 he averaged in 2006-07, he picked up more than two minutes in shorthanded ice time, going from 1:13 to 3:18.

The Devils' defense core returns intact from the end of last season, so with a season's experience under coach Brent Sutter, expect Martin's ice time to, at minimum, stay the same, and likely rise.


A good article...not sure why Colin White wouldn't make it over some Rangers but good to see Paulie getting some league recognition.

Edited by DevilNurn, 12 September 2008 - 02:01 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 12:14 PM

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A good article...not sure why Colin White wouldn't make it over some Rangers but good to see Paulie getting some league recognition.


Did you watch White last year? He stunk.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 12:32 PM

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A good article...not sure why Colin White wouldn't make it over some Rangers but good to see Paulie getting some league recognition.


I stopped reading after Rosival was #2..

I guess they think offensive numbers for defenseman mean everything. How sad.

Edited by nmigliore, 12 September 2008 - 12:32 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 01:55 PM

Did you watch White last year? He stunk.

Well my reading was that it was reliability...anybody who overcomes an injury like that and has been here for the cup years says something about their reliability...Maybe I was wrong in my reading though :noclue:.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 01:59 PM

Cool. I could careless about where they put ranger players because they are always ranked higher than us.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 02:02 PM

I thought Martin was our most reliable player not named Brodeur last season. Good to see him getting some recognition.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:10 PM

Cool. I could careless about where they put ranger players because they are always ranked higher than us.

It's curious how every Devils fan complains about how bad our defense is, but when there's a list of the most reliable D-men, (s)he expects NJ players to be there and is angry when some Ranger guys get ranked higher.

I agree with Martin being on the list, I'm probably not that much of an expert to tell which place he should be on, but I'd say it's pretty much okay.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:12 PM

It's curious how every Devils fan complains about how bad our defense is, but when there's a list of the most reliable D-men, (s)he expects NJ players to be there and is angry when some Ranger guys get ranked higher.

I agree with Martin being on the list, I'm probably not that much of an expert to tell which place he should be on, but I'd say it's pretty much okay.


Well NJ's defense isn't horrible defensively, it's just awful offensively. So you can bitch about the Devils defense and praise it in both ways depending on how you're looking at it.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:42 PM

Anyone know Martin's contract status? Just curious.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:45 PM

Anyone know Martin's contract status? Just curious.


From CBS Sportsline:

Martin will earn $3 million this season[last year], $4 million in 2008[this year] and $4.5 million[next year] in 2009.


and I think at the time people weren't sure that Martin wasn't being overpayed :lol: Now it's obvious he is being underpaid in comparison to UFAs.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:45 PM

Well they certainly picked the most reliable defenseman from each team, if not necessarily the right order.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:45 PM

Did you watch White last year? He stunk.

Did you know that Colin White was not a rookie last year? I.E: Did you know that he has had fabulous seasons before that? Also did you watch ANY Devils games? Because I'm sure at least once a game (after Chico or Doc went "OOF!!" after a whitey hit) they mentioned that he missed a good part of the beginning of last season.

Nah, didn't think so.


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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:46 PM

Did you know that Colin White was not a rookie last year? I.E: Did you know that he has had fabulous seasons before that? Also did you watch ANY Devils games? Because I'm sure at least once a game (after Chico or Doc went "OOF!!" after a whitey hit) they mentioned that he missed a good part of the beginning of last season.

Nah, didn't think so.


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And White was also good last year until he hurt his arm. Once he hurt his arm he couldn't be physical with people anymore. The arm was way more critical to his ability to play than his eye was.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 04:32 PM

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and I think at the time people weren't sure that Martin wasn't being overpayed :lol: Now it's obvious he is being underpaid in comparison to UFAs.

Agreed. I remember there being a lot of harping at Lou for signing Martin to his current contract. In comparing it to recent signing, the Devils are getting a decent bargain.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 05:25 PM

I think if White is paired up with a more experienced Defenseman (not Mottau) he will play better. I think Martin/White or Oduya/White could be a pretty effective pairing.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 06:00 PM

I stopped reading after Rosival was #2..

I guess they think offensive numbers for defenseman mean everything. How sad.


Hit the nail on the head there lol, there should be an award for best defensive defenseman in the NHL, if there was, I would call it the "Stevens Trophy"

Players like Bourque-Lidstrom etc would never have won one and our Scotty would have probably won 10 or 12, it's not so much about scoring goals, it's PREVENTING them, and that is why Scott Stevens is the greatest defenseman to ever play the game, his team won 879 times, and THAT is proof of why he is #1 in NHL history.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 06:39 PM

I love paul martin
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 09:08 PM

Martin at a 3.8 cap hit might be one of the best bargins in the league.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 09:40 PM

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Hit the nail on the head there lol, there should be an award for best defensive defenseman in the NHL, if there was, I would call it the "Stevens Trophy"

Players like Bourque-Lidstrom etc would never have won one and our Scotty would have probably won 10 or 12, it's not so much about scoring goals, it's PREVENTING them, and that is why Scott Stevens is the greatest defenseman to ever play the game, his team won 879 times, and THAT is proof of why he is #1 in NHL history.


Seriously?

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Hahahaha...long overdue. Now they need to get rid of Jacobs.


The problem is, NJ only plays them 4 times a year. We were only able to get them to trade JT and fire the idiot GM. If we played them 8 times a year, maybe Jacobs might have an epiphany and sell the team.


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Posted 12 September 2008 - 09:57 PM

In the chatroom about 6 games into last season and I'm questioning Sarge on why we overpaid for Martin. He stated basically to just watch this kid explode.

About 20 games later, as I watched Martin go end to end, I thanked Sarge for educating me on the kid.

He is worth sick $$$ right now. Amazing job on Lou's end.
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