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#1 njdevil26

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:04 AM

http://msg.com/renovation/

Take a look at this... they are planning to spend 500 million dollars this offseason renovating MSG and they are saying tit will be done by 2011 and they won't miss a Rangers or Knicks game... interesting to see how this turns out.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:13 AM

Looks very cool. It seems weird how they are going to widen the concourse, add restaurants, add bars, add suites and improve the sightlines while not reducing the seating capacity.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:15 AM

http://msg.com/renovation/

Take a look at this... they are planning to spend 500 million dollars this offseason renovating MSG and they are saying tit will be done by 2011 and they won't miss a Rangers or Knicks game... interesting to see how this turns out.


Well, it definitely needed it, no question. Especially with the Prudential Center making the current MSG building look that much more dated.

The poor Islanders...talk about a team that needs a new building in the worst way.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 18 December 2008 - 08:16 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:18 AM

It's just interesting to think about. The Prudential Center cost between 300 and 400 million right? And the place is a PALACE. They are spending at least 500 million without constructing a new building... and without screwing with the basketball and hockey seasons... this is going to be interesting to see how they will pull this off.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:22 AM

It's just interesting to think about. The Prudential Center cost between 300 and 400 million right? And the place is a PALACE. They are spending at least 500 million without constructing a new building... and without screwing with the basketball and hockey seasons... this is going to be interesting to see how they will pull this off.


I'm wondering this myself. Clearly it's a take-a-step-back-to-take-several-steps-forward proposition, but I get the feeling the next two seasons at MSG are going to be pretty miserable. For everyone.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 09:03 AM

Get ready for your cable bill to go up again. It's bad enough to hate the Rangers and Knicks but the fact my cable bill helps Dolan piss money away makes it even worse.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 09:10 AM

Well, they have the summer months to mess about with it. So it looks like the Liberty will be playing more games at Radio City or outdoors.

It seems what they are doing to increase the width of the concourses is to take down the walls to those mysterious rooms across from the concessions. That's about the only way I can explain it.

Also, the press box is being moved 'over the ice' as explained to me by Steve Zipay. So, seating areas that are currently being occupied by the press will now be for spectators.

It looks pretty cool. And, as is the sentiment here, it's needed.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 09:11 AM

As long as it doesn't fvck with us downstairs in any way, I don't care.

Close off a set of doors in Penn Station for any amount of time and you'll have problems.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:59 AM

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until it resembles this, i remain unimpressed.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:02 AM

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until it resembles this, i remain unimpressed.


:giggle: That's the exact thing I was thinking when I read that. Break out the atomic super mutants. :dance: :dance:
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:50 AM

It's just interesting to think about. The Prudential Center cost between 300 and 400 million right? And the place is a PALACE. They are spending at least 500 million without constructing a new building... and without screwing with the basketball and hockey seasons... this is going to be interesting to see how they will pull this off.


It usually costs more to renovate than to build anew. Granted they already have the land but they are pretty much gutting the entire thing. The costs are going to be high and doing it in Manhattan without closing the arena? Yea, that's gonna take a chunk out of your pocket.

Still, this should be attractive.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:52 AM

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until it resembles this, i remain unimpressed.



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Posted 18 December 2008 - 12:17 PM

$500 million for a renovation. NYC labor I guess.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 12:53 PM

I'm wondering this myself. Clearly it's a take-a-step-back-to-take-several-steps-forward proposition, but I get the feeling the next two seasons at MSG are going to be pretty miserable. For everyone.


Sometimes renovations cost more than new but they may have no other option
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:05 PM

I have a feeling that if this goes through and the Isles don't get their Lighthouse deal passed, we'll be seeing the Kansas City Inlanders. Waka waka.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:16 PM

Sometimes renovations cost more than new but they may have no other option


The cost isn't what I was referring to...it is New York, after all. It's more about wondering how they're going to get this done with the Knicks, Rangers, Liberty (not sure how many home games they play in a season) and all of the other events the building hosts. Like I said, at the very least the next couple of seasons are probably going to be pretty miserable for everyone involved...I'm sure the payoff is going to be huge though.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:27 PM

Get ready for your cable bill to go up again. It's bad enough to hate the Rangers and Knicks but the fact my cable bill helps Dolan piss money away makes it even worse.


get directv instead and stop giving the dolans your cash.

i got rid of comcast and got directv and have no regrets.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:05 PM

Virtually all of the pictures feature the Rangers, and not the Knicks -- did that strike anyone else as odd?
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:24 PM

If they weren't going to build another building in another location (doubtful, I think they like being right above Penn Station), and they couldn't knock this one down and start again (because they would have had to find alternate homes for the teams while they were doing it - and that would actually cost them things like rent to another facility, concession and advertising dollars that they wouldn't get while the place isn't open, etc) then renovation it is and it often does cost more to try and renovate something than to start again.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:53 PM

fvck the MSG
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