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#81 SC Devs Fan

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:57 PM

Let them kill each other. They are fighting over things in their imagination. Their holy land isn't holy. Why are we helping anyone defend or attack something that means nothing.

fvck Israel and fvck Palestine. Religious idiots.

I think it is very hard for the average American - myself included - to understand what is going on over there and what religion means to them. Our concept of war is one lasting a couple of years, in the middle east its thousands of years.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:25 PM

That's an absolutely ridiculous and inaccurate breakdown of what I wrote.


Par for the course with this joker.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:32 PM

Par for the course with this joker.

Waiting for Don's selective outrage......... :whistling:
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:52 AM

I, for one, am extremely pleased at initial reports saying Sen. George Mitchell will be President Obama's Middle East envoy. If true, it signals the President's determination from Day One that this is a situation to be addressed rather than ignored.

Abe Foxman's reaction is a "Whaaaaa???"

[quote]Some Jewish leaders say the very qualities that may appeal to the Obama administration
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:40 PM

I, for one, am extremely pleased at initial reports saying Sen. George Mitchell will be President Obama's Middle East envoy. If true, it signals the President's determination from Day One that this is a situation to be addressed rather than ignored.

Abe Foxman's reaction is a "Whaaaaa???"



Article Here


Sen. Mitchell was officialed today. Good luck Senator, it's a big job. but if anyone can do it, you can.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 10:06 PM

Why don't people realize they are fighting over imaginary sh!t.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 10:40 PM

Why don't people realize they are fighting over imaginary sh!t.

That kind of dissent probably isn't tolerated there I'd imagine. Maybe the ones who do realize that aren't willing to risk their lives to speak up, or they figure the fighting has been going on so long and it's so passionate that there is no point in trying to convince anyone.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:08 PM

Why don't people realize they are fighting over imaginary sh!t.


The people in the area base their life around religion so it is not even a question that it is real to them. Religion being the strongest point in some peoples lives are worth fighting and yes, dying over so they aren't going to change.
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:22 AM

From the Guardian

Israeli soccer matches were suspended during the assault on Gaza. When the games resumed last week, the fans had come up with a new chant: "Why have the schools in Gaza been shut down?" sang the crowd. "Because all the children were gunned down!" came the answer.


Chance would have it that Abu Humus, a long-time peace activist and member of the Fatah party, is a personal friend of ours. In 2001, he joined Ta'ayush Arab-Jewish Partnership, and since then has selflessly organised countless peace rallies and other joint activities. During the past eight years, we have spent many hours at each other's homes and our children have grown up respecting and liking one other. It is hard to believe that just one month ago he attended the Bar Mitzvah of Yigal's son in a Jerusalem synagogue.


We emphasise the Palestinian children because so many of them have been killed and terrorised in the past month. Yet it is clear that Israeli children are suffering as well, particularly those who have spent long periods in shelters for fear of being hit by rockets.

The one message that is being conveyed to children on both sides of this fray is that the other side is a bloodthirsty monster. In Israel, this was instantly translated into gains for the hate-mongering Yisrael Beytenu party headed by the xenophobic Avigdor Lieberman, who is now the frontrunner in mock polls being held in many Jewish high schools, with the hawkish Binyamin Netanyahu coming in second.

Hatred, in other words, is the great winner of this war. It has helped mobilise racist mobs, and as the soccer chant indicates it has left absolutely no place for the other, undermining even basic empathy for innocent children. Israel's masters of war must be happy: the seeds of the next wars have certainly been sown.


Same as it ever was.

Edited by Copper Kettle, 30 January 2009 - 09:23 AM.

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