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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:07 AM

Someone on New Jersey Devils about to lose job with Brendan Shanahan soon to join team

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"He's not coming in here to be a part-time player," coach Brent Sutter said. "When Brendan gets himself in the condition he would like to be in and we would like to see him in, you have to expect he's going to be a full-time player.

"Obviously decisions are going to be made. It's going to have an impact here and affect someone. I can't worry about that. It's professional sports and that's the way it goes. We're here to win hockey games and to have success, and individuals' performances dictate who gets and who doesn't get ice time."
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:09 AM

Madden or Pandolfo. I call it.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:32 AM

Sounds like Sutter already knows who it is.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:38 AM

Sounds like Sutter already knows who it is.



I'm sure they all do. It's possible that the players even know too. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:40 AM

Rupp or Clarkson IMO. TI think both will be taking turns in and out of the line up depending on the team the Devils are playing when Shanahan is inserted into the line up.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

I'm sure they all do. It's possible that the players even know too. I guess we'll find out soon enough.


Pandolfo, Madden, or Gionta... I suspect Pando may be the target. Gionta could be traded, but I doubt it.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:46 AM

It won't be Clarkson. It'll be Rupp and Pandolfo in and out of the lineup the rest of the way,
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:51 AM

I think at the moment Sutter has 3 lines scoring. Does he put Shanahan with Madden and Rolston to make that even more powerful or does he place him with Holik and Pandolfo. Madden and Rolston is a pretty fast duo, too fast for Shanahan? With Holik Shanahan will get his fair share of one timers from the slot off the cycle.

I think Rupp is traded on this road trip, we still have Leblond who can be called up as a heavy weight. I also think it will be to Anaheim to make up for the loss of May.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:00 AM

I think at the moment Sutter has 3 lines scoring. Does he put Shanahan with Madden and Rolston to make that even more powerful or does he place him with Holik and Pandolfo. Madden and Rolston is a pretty fast duo, too fast for Shanahan? With Holik Shanahan will get his fair share of one timers from the slot off the cycle.

I think Rupp is traded on this road trip, we still have Leblond who can be called up as a heavy weight. I also think it will be to Anaheim to make up for the loss of May.


i don't understand why people want this team to make a roster move, whether it be sending pandolfo to lowell or whatever. they've been carrying 12 forwards for forever. petr vrana has shown that he isn't really ready for the nhl. bergfors might be, but he's not the kind of guy who you can bury on a 4th line. rod pelley is, but he hasn't played for new jersey yet this season and wasn't particularly good last season. they need a 13th forward around if they want to keep the dream of 4 solid lines around. and that guy is not going to be leblond who just can't take a regular shift in the NHL at this point in his career.

rupp has played extremely well lately, why in the world would he ever be traded? he filled in adequately for madden when he was hurt, he's thrown his weight around in recent games, and has taken on some of the best fighters in the league and done well against them. not only would i not trade him, i'd sign him for 2 more years at $550,000 if i could. a sometime enforcer who can play all three forward positions?

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:03 AM

It won't be Clarkson. It'll be Rupp and Pandolfo in and out of the lineup the rest of the way,



I just do not see Sutter doing this to Pandolfo. Especially with the new contract he got over the summer to stay here. Pandolfo does what he is asked to do.
Tonight Sutter broke up Madden and Pandolfo for the most part and I think they both played well on their new lines tonight.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:05 AM

I think Rupp is traded on this road trip, we still have Leblond who can be called up as a heavy weight. I also think it will be to Anaheim to make up for the loss of May.


That'd be brutal to trade Rupp. I doubt the Devils would get much for him and they'd be having a big downgrade in hockey ability going from Rupp to PL3 in return for an upgrade in fighting ability which doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the hockey ability.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:05 AM

rupp has played extremely well lately, why in the world would he ever be traded?


You make trades when value is high, thats the point.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:07 AM

I just do not see Sutter doing this to Pandolfo. Especially with the new contract he got over the summer to stay here. Pandolfo does what he is asked to do.
Tonight Sutter broke up Madden and Pandolfo for the most part and I think they both played well on their new lines tonight.


Sutter broke them up last game and have been playing them separated on the PK periodically the last bunch of games. I think breaking them up is to try and see which one was causing their line to suck so bad, last game they both sucked separated and tonight they were both decent separated so still no sure answer.

You make trades when value is high, thats the point.


So the Devils trade Rupp because he is filling his role fantastically for a 4th round pick instead of a 5th rounder? Either way the return for Rupp isn't more valuable than what Rupp is doing.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:11 AM

Pandolfo, Madden, or Gionta... I suspect Pando may be the target. Gionta could be traded, but I doubt it.

Gionta is 3rd on the team in points and in the top 40 in the league. The Gionta hate around here still cracks me up.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:12 AM

Rupp won't want to sit...and its obvious he is going to sit. Pandolfo is going nowhere. I know Rupp has been playing well, extremely well but you will have 13 capable forwards who should be full time. I just have a feeling Rupp who has had 2 fights in his last 4 games? Is going to draw a lot of interest and yes, enforcers have great value. Especially one that plays like Rupp.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:19 AM

Rupp won't want to sit...and its obvious he is going to sit. Pandolfo is going nowhere. I know Rupp has been playing well, extremely well but you will have 13 capable forwards who should be full time. I just have a feeling Rupp who has had 2 fights in his last 4 games? Is going to draw a lot of interest and yes, enforcers have great value. Especially one that plays like Rupp.


it's not obvious he's going to sit. in fact, he's probably going to play more than pandolfo. it is clear from sutter's play of brookbank that he thinks the fighter is an important guy to have around. someone mentioned it in another thread - rupp plays against guys like orr, laraque, godard, the flyers, etc., pandolfo plays against teams that lack the true heavyweight.

enforcers don't have great value at the deadline. there's not much fighting in the playoffs. he'd get a 4th rounder, *maybe* a 3rd. that's totally not worth it for a guy who can play on our team. if he doesn't like sitting, he can leave in the offseason. there's no one in the minors who is threatening his 13rd forward position, and there's bound to be injuries that will get him in the lineup regardless. it'd be just plain foolish when there's not anyone pushing rupp out from lowell.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:38 AM

it's not obvious he's going to sit. in fact, he's probably going to play more than pandolfo. it is clear from sutter's play of brookbank that he thinks the fighter is an important guy to have around. someone mentioned it in another thread - rupp plays against guys like orr, laraque, godard, the flyers, etc., pandolfo plays against teams that lack the true heavyweight.

enforcers don't have great value at the deadline. there's not much fighting in the playoffs. he'd get a 4th rounder, *maybe* a 3rd. that's totally not worth it for a guy who can play on our team. if he doesn't like sitting, he can leave in the offseason. there's no one in the minors who is threatening his 13rd forward position, and there's bound to be injuries that will get him in the lineup regardless. it'd be just plain foolish when there's not anyone pushing rupp out from lowell.


Pandolfo is not going to be sitting many games if any. He is still one of the better PK'ers in the NHL when he has a goaltender in nets. He also can still play a shutdown role. He has big game experience and has a big time salary right now.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:44 AM

I think it'll be Pandolfo, his role has been diminishing and I don't see a place for him once we add another forward. Also look at his TOI tonight, Rupp received more even strength time then Pandolfo did, that doesn't sound good to me.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:55 AM

I really don't want it to be Rupp. I think he's a very underrated player. He does a lot for the team.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 08:35 AM

Pandolfo is not going to be sitting many games if any. He is still one of the better PK'ers in the NHL when he has a goaltender in nets. He also can still play a shutdown role. He has big game experience and has a big time salary right now.


i don't think it's going to matter. shanahan can kill penalties too, and it's not like penalty killing is some incredibly valuable skill. please don't try to claim it's the goaltender - the devils' PK wasn't very good last year either.
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