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#1 Cachorro Louco

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:57 AM

If the the Mayas are wrong, and the end of the world is not on 2012, and Brazilians stadiums are ready for the cup on time. Will we have for the first time in more then 50 years a World Soccer cup in Brazil.

But if the maya are wrong we are all doomend. and if the Stadium are not ready on time, FIFA would have to Bring the World Cup to a Country that is ready for the Cup, most of the Fingers point to USA in that case, and no the almost finished Red Bull Park would not be able to receive the cup, because it only seats "only" 25000 people FIFA Required at least 40000 People.

Right now Brazilian population are divide in 2 groups " Cool world Cup in Brazil" and " Crap world Cup in Brazil"

The first group usually made o people who live in a city where the cup will be held.

The second Group is partially formated by people who live in the cities where the cup will be held and all of people who don't live in a city who won't be held a cup.
Their biggest argument is that will be a shameful world cup because Brazil, doesn't have a adequate structure to support a event of this scale and violence Plaguing Brazil.
Another big con that this Group cites is the Public money that will be spent on this cup, but still unclear which project would receive money from federal government, and also is if ever some off those projects receive money from federal or state government, how much % of that money will be laundry by the Corrupted Politician.

Just a exemple of the Corruption the last Pan-american Games held in Rio Cost more then the triple of the original cost, the "Engenhão Stadium" alone cost 5x more than the original cost, and was just Barely finished one month prior the game so now the stadium in falling to pieces.

So That's why if FIFA sees that the construction off those projects are late, they can move the world cup for another country, in that case the country with most chances would be the USA, but maybe some European country will held.



Alright no more chit-chat here are 18 projects propose to FIFA to Hold the World CUP, out of Those 18 only 12 will Be selected.

Here's a poorly made map that i did to help understand where are the proposed Projects.
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1º Project
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Stadium: Vivadão ( NEW )
Capacity: 46,000
City: Manaus, Population: 1,710,000
State: Amazonas
Cost: $2,5 Billion ( That Price includes, the structure for the city like: Bus Terminal. Airport,hotels, Hospital etc..) No world yet where the money is come from

2º Project
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Stadium: Fonte Nova ( REDO )
Capacity after redo: 55,000
City: Salvador, Population 3,000,000
State: Bahia
Cost: $125 Millions ( The stadium is owned by the state, so surely the money will come from a government, so please add 25% at this price for the Laundry money )

3º Project
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Stadium: Beira Rio ( REDO )
Capacity after redo: 60,000
City: Porto Alegre, population 1,500,000
State: Rio Grande do Sul
Cost: $150 Millions ( Since is particular stadium owned by the Internacional Futebol Clube no need to add 25% for laundry money)

4º Project
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Stadium: Mineirão ( Redo )
Capacity after redo: 74,300
City: Belo Horizonte, Population 2,500,000
State: Minas Gerais
Cost: $175 Millions ( The stadium is owned by the state please add 25% -30% for the Laundry money)

5º Project
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Stadium: Maracanã ( Redo )
Capacity after Redo: Not Declared, ( The stadium already passed Rennovation and right now sits 95,000 far less then the 200,000 people that watched the final of 1950 cup( some people say its 230,000 people packed the stadium but only 200,000 paid to get in)
City: Rio de Janeiro,Population 7,200,000
State: Rio de Janeiro
Cost $225 Millions ( State owned please add 25% for the laundry money)

6º Project
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Stadium: Morumbi ( REDO )
Capacity after Redo: 67,000
City: São Paulo, Population 11,200,000
State: São Paulo
Cost: Not Declared ( The Stadium is particular owned by São Paulo Futebol Clube no need to add % for laundry money tough )

7ºProject
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Stadium: Arena Da Floresta ( Redo )
Capacity after redo: 40,000
City: Rio Branco, Population 306,000
State: Acre ( Be aware that there is a ongoing Discussion to discovery if the State of Acre really exist or is just a Hoax played by the brazilain Goverment)
Cost: Not Declared ( The Statium is owned by the state pelase ad 30%-35 for laundry moeny)

8º Project
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Stadium: Estrela dos Reis Magos (NEW)
( Some dumb idiot ha a Brilliant ideia to give that name (actually means: "star of the tree wise men") just Because the name of city means Christmas in Portuguese)
Capacity: 65,100
City: Natal, Population 180,000
State: Rio Grande do Norte
Cost: $120 Millions ( no word yet you will pay for this stadium)

9º Project
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Stadium: Arena Zagallo ( NEW )
Capacity: 46,000
City: Macéio, Population: 930,000
State: Alagoas
Cost: $140 Million 9 No word who will pay)

10º Project
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Stadium: Serra Dourada ( REDO )
Capcity After redo: 42,000
City: Gôiania,Population: 1,300,000
State:Goiás
Cost:$80 Million( Please add 35% for Laundry Money)

11º Project
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Stadium: Castelão ( REDO )
Capacity after Redo:50,000
City: Fortaleza, Population: 2,500,000
State: Ceará
Cost:$230 Millions (Please add 35% for you know what)

12º Project
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Stadium: Arena Florianopolis ( NEW)
Capacity: 43,000
City: Florianopolis, Population 410,000
State: Santa Catarina
Cost of the complex: $240 Millions ( No world who will pay, but 80% sure will be Private )

13º Project
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Stadium: Arena da Baixada A.K.A" Devils Cauldron" ( Completion )
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Capacity after complition: 42,000
City: Curitiba 2,000,000
State: Paraná
Cost: $60 Millions ( But it will vary, the big box on the left of the stadium is a Multi Purpose Arena for 20,000 people, At first FIFA ordered to that space be used a PArking lot for 1000 cars of the Press, but it Seens they may allow to Build the "Areninha" After at all, if not well we just gonna build the Areninha after the world cup damm it)

14º Project
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Stadium: Verdão ( REDO )
Capacity after Redo: 40,000
City: Cuiabá, Population 600,000
State: Mato Grosso
Cost: $180 Millions(owned by the state Please ad 25% for you know what)

15º PRoject
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Stadium: Morenão ( REDO)
Capacity after REDO: 45,000
City: Campo Grande, Population 800,00
State: Mato Grosso do Sul
Cost: $270 Million including a Mall ( Currently owned by the Federal university no word who will pay)

16ºProject
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Stadium: Mané Garrincha ( REDO)
Capacity after redo: 76,000
City: Brasilia( the capital of Brazil),Population 2,500,000
State: Federal District
Cost: $140 Millions ( Its State owned , but it sit on the worlds capital os Corrupted Politician so nome is able to tell how much money will be laundry in this project.)

17º Project
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Stadium:Mangueirão ( REDO )
Capacity after Redo: 44,000
City: Belém, Population 1,410,000
State: Pará
Cost:$130 Millions ( state owned please add 30% for laundry money)

18ºProject
Stadium: Not Named yet (NEW)
( The plan is to build a Whole neighborhood called :"City of the cup" The" City would have a "center for events, many restaurants, Sores. theathers and cinemas.

Capacity: 46,000
City: Recife but the complex will be sahred with Olinda Also
Recife Population: 1,800,000
Olinda Population:400,000
Cost: $700 Million 9 no word who will pay, Probably private enterprise)


State: Pernanbuco






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** #13 is the Same stadium as my sign

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:40 PM

Some weird looking stadiums in there.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:05 AM

If the the Mayas are wrong, and the end of the world is not on 2012, and Brazilians stadiums are ready for the cup on time. Will we have for the first time in more then 50 years a World Soccer cup in Brazil.

But if the maya are wrong we are all doomend. and if the Stadium are not ready on time, FIFA would have to Bring the World Cup to a Country that is ready for the Cup, most of the Fingers point to USA in that case, and no the almost finished Red Bull Park would not be able to receive the cup, because it only seats "only" 25000 people FIFA Required at least 40000 People.

Right now Brazilian population are divide in 2 groups " Cool world Cup in Brazil" and " Crap world Cup in Brazil"

The first group usually made o people who live in a city where the cup will be held.

The second Group is partially formated by people who live in the cities where the cup will be held and all of people who don't live in a city who won't be held a cup.
Their biggest argument is that will be a shameful world cup because Brazil, doesn't have a adequate structure to support a event of this scale and violence Plaguing Brazil.
Another big con that this Group cites is the Public money that will be spent on this cup, but still unclear which project would receive money from federal government, and also is if ever some off those projects receive money from federal or state government, how much % of that money will be laundry by the Corrupted Politician.

Just a exemple of the Corruption the last Pan-american Games held in Rio Cost more then the triple of the original cost, the "Engenhão Stadium" alone cost 5x more than the original cost, and was just Barely finished one month prior the game so now the stadium in falling to pieces.

So That's why if FIFA sees that the construction off those projects are late, they can move the world cup for another country, in that case the country with most chances would be the USA, but maybe some European country will held.


My friend if any world cup country fails to build its projects on time there is only one country the world cup will be held and that is England (with a little help from Wales and Scotland)

Wembley: 90,000
Twickenham stadium:80,000
Millenium stadium:76,000
Old trafford: 72,000
Emirates: 60,000
Celtic park 60,000
Hampden park, 50,000
Ibrox: 50,000
St James' park: 52,000
Stadium of Light: 49,000
City of manchester stadium: 48,000
Stamford Bridge: 43,000

England has 11 stadiums purpouse built for football ready to go as soon as any nation pulls out, there is talk of if the south africa world cup bid hits trouble it will head to england. The USA has a load of huge stadiums, trouble is there is a huge amount of distance inbetween them making last minute organisation difficult.

Spain would be close with 7 and germany could do it , but they just had the world cup.

2018 we should have the world cup back at home again.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 09:31 AM

The sad reality is the only place where you have the infrastructure, security, and enthusiasm for the sport all in one place is Western Europe. If Brazil can build the stadiums and get control of security, it should be one hell of a world cup and South America is more than overdue to host the event.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 05:16 AM

The sad reality is the only place where you have the infrastructure, security, and enthusiasm for the sport all in one place is Western Europe. If Brazil can build the stadiums and get control of security, it should be one hell of a world cup and South America is more than overdue to host the event.


I would rather have the next world cup in Brazil than South Africa, i have a feeling its going to be a nightmare.
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Posted 04 February 2009 - 03:36 PM

If the the Mayas are wrong, and the end of the world is not on 2012 (...)

It definitely IS 2012, because that's when Poland and Ukraine are scheduled to host the UEFA EURO. :lol:
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:40 AM

It definitely IS 2012, because that's when Poland and Ukraine are scheduled to host the UEFA EURO. :lol:


How is that coming along, there were rumours of there being trouble with money and construction??
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

How is that coming along, there were rumours of there being trouble with money and construction??


As far as I have heard the Ukraine is having serious issues keeping up to its part of the commitment. There have been a lot of rumors that the UEFA is working on a plan B, which would mean another county would be the second host in place of them
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:49 PM

There have been rumours from the beginning and yeah, I heard about the possibility of Ukraine not making it. There were talks about options of Germany taking Ukraine's place (personally, I wouldn't like it - they had their World Cup just a few years ago and also, that would automatically make it a Germany - Poland EURO, not Poland - Germany, they would definitely be in the spotlight there), as well as Poland organising the event on its own (very unlikely, everyone's afraid we might not be ready with everything while co-hosting it, yet alone doing it on our own).

So it's not a sure thing, but I'm staying optimistic here. And even if we don't make it, at least my hometown team will have a decent stadium at last, because it's going to be built no matter if the city hosts the event or not. ;)
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 11:06 AM

Well i doubt it will be coming to the UK because we wil be holding a little event called the Olympics.

Which knowing our ability to delay a project well over 10 years wont be ready at all :dance: :unsure: :whistling:
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 02:29 PM

Well i doubt it will be coming to the UK because we wil be holding a little event called the Olympics.

Which knowing our ability to delay a project well over 10 years wont be ready at all :dance: :unsure: :whistling:



Sorry dude ability to delay projects no one can beat Brazil, Biggest exemple my soccer stadium have build only half of it as in 1998 the projection they will finish in 2012 :dizzy: :dizzy: ( Stadium in question # 13). but still I'm Paying $25 a month for the team for a chair on the stadium.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:13 AM

Sorry dude ability to delay projects no one can beat Brazil, Biggest exemple my soccer stadium have build only half of it as in 1998 the projection they will finish in 2012 :dizzy: :dizzy: ( Stadium in question # 13). but still I'm Paying $25 a month for the team for a chair on the stadium.


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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:28 PM

So... what are the chances Scotland's in this thing? Italy is too much of a juggernaut for me to root for, so I'll root for my other half heritage!*

*Assuming of course that the US sucks as usual and Scotland makes it...which I doubt. :P
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:53 AM

So... what are the chances Scotland's in this thing? Italy is too much of a juggernaut for me to root for, so I'll root for my other half heritage!*

*Assuming of course that the US sucks as usual and Scotland makes it...which I doubt. :P


Its not looking good.
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:28 AM

So... what are the chances Scotland's in this thing? Italy is too much of a juggernaut for me to root for, so I'll root for my other half heritage!*

*Assuming of course that the US sucks as usual and Scotland makes it...which I doubt. :P


US/Italia for me, I would like to see US win more though since Italia won last WC.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 09:17 PM

well 20 of marchh fifa will anounce the cities ,that will host the world cup.
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Posted 29 May 2009 - 06:29 PM

Even tough the official announcement of the 12 cities who will hos the world cup is This Sunday.

The list of the 12 cities apparently had surface on many media outlets.

Here the list:

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Rio de Janeiro
São Paulo
Belo Horizonte
Porto Alegre
Curitiba
Brasília
Cuiabá
Manaus
Fortaleza
Salvador
Recife
Natal "

In addition many of the projects will change after the official announcement .
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Posted 29 May 2009 - 06:29 PM

Even tough the official announcement of the 12 cities who will hos the world cup is This Sunday.

The list of the 12 cities apparently had surface on many media outlets.

Here the list:

"
Rio de Janeiro
São Paulo
Belo Horizonte
Porto Alegre
Curitiba
Brasília
Cuiabá
Manaus
Fortaleza
Salvador
Recife
Natal "

In addition many of the projects will change after the official announcement .
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