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#1 arena2003

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 08:54 PM

Gaza? Is Stewart right?

Jon Stewart and the end of 'morally blind ethnic solidarity'
Tony Karon has a great piece on the state of the Situation in the National, out of Abu Dhabi, and he agrees with me, the next generation of American Jews is off the reservation on Israel:

Jewish communities in western countries have long been Israel’s trump card against international pressure, because they mobilise support for Israel and restrain critics by painting opposition to Israel’s policies as motivated by hostility to Jews – a toxic accusation in a world still sensitive to the horrors of the Holocaust. But what was palpable during the Gaza conflict was the diminished enthusiasm of young Jewish people abroad for Israeli militarism, and the increasing willingness of many to openly challenge Israel.

This change is personified by Jon Stewart, the Jewish-American comic whose Daily Show is the premier vehicle of contemporary American political satire. Stewart mercilessly mocked American politicians for their slavish echoing of the Israeli narrative during the Gaza conflict. “It’s the Möbius strip of issues,” he sarcastically enthused. “There’s only one side!” Clearly, the younger, hipper Jewish liberal mainstream exemplified by Stewart intends to judge Israel on the basis of its actions, rather than express morally blind ethnic solidarity....

And that is where the apartheid warning used by Mr Olmert and other Israeli advocates of a two-state solution becomes an unintended confession. It is not some demographic milestone that will tip Israel into the realm of apartheid, because apartheid is a qualitative rather than a quantitative term: it refers to a situation in which a whole category of people were denied the rights of citizenship in the state that ruled over them. South Africa’s apartheid would have been no more acceptable to the world had black people comprised 45 per cent of the population rather than 80 per cent. And since 1967, the Palestinian population of the West Bank and Gaza have been living under the control of a state that denies them citizenship.
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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:15 PM

Israel will go to war with Hamas, and we (Barry) will sit by and do nothing.
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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:32 PM

Israel will go to war with Hamas, and we (Barry) will sit by and do nothing.


What scares me the most is that Stewart is looked to as the 6:00pm news as we grew up JL. I want the nuc facilities obliterated now by the Israeli Air Force, but are they capable?

They are not, as the facilities would have been destroyed by the IAF already and there is no political right or wrong about it.

My question has always been why the Jewish Community here in the US decides to vote left and destroy the most essential value we have as Americans that is our core: Judeo–Christian ethics!

Hollywood/NYC must wake up if we are the only country to support a country that kills Palestinians wholesale! The fight now is with Iran and Gaza was political while the US was, and still is in a sh!tstorm economically and Israel did not care! Again, Israel did not give a sh!t!

Is that a true friend like England? No! They went ahead killing a small segment of the population for their own good! Is Jon Stewart right?

Edited by arena2003, 21 March 2009 - 09:38 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:40 PM

Israel will go to war with Hamas, and we (Barry) will sit by and do nothing.



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Posted 21 March 2009 - 11:38 PM

Israel will go to war with Hamas, and we (Barry) will sit by and do nothing.



Good, let them both wipe each other out.
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Posted 21 March 2009 - 11:47 PM

Good, let them both wipe each other out.


So you hate Stewart? Kill each other? Israel and Iran should just not exist?

I love u liberal peace loving, patch wearing and long haired puppies until it comes to war in the Middle East that u think will not effect us.

U Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip Shi^s.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 11:57 PM

U Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip Shi^s.


Whats a Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip Shi^s are you some kind of secret muslim this is america speak american
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 12:06 AM

Good, let them both wipe each other out.


Are you seriously hoping that Israel will be wiped out...?
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 08:58 AM

Are you seriously hoping that Israel will be wiped out...?

Yes.

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 09:43 AM

Yes.

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I mentioned both of them, that includes the other guys, you know the brown ones, wishing death on Americas enemies makes me a good christian right?
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 09:51 AM

My question has always been why the Jewish Community here in the US decides to vote left and destroy the most essential value we have as Americans that is our core: Judeo–Christian ethics!

You aren't supposed to vote for the guy who puts religion above all else.

I think there is also a misconception that just because you are Jewish you automatically support Israel 100%. When they respond to militant attacks with disproportionate amount of force you are going to alienate your religious brothers abroad.

Idk what Stewart has to do with this, it's a shame that he is becoming a moral compass in the country (atleast for the 18-25 bracket) because honestly he isn't a very good reporter and he is way better when he just sits in the back making jokes like he should. But there is a real void for reporters who leave the bias bullsh!t at the door and actually bring the news to light. Stewart may have an army of writers behind him, but they don't have the inside access that CNN or FOX news or MSNBC have. Those guys are all in bed with their corresponding political base, and they pander to their demographics on tv. When you have that gap for so long, when anyone, even a comedian comes out and says "hey fvck you, that's wrong" people see it as refreshing.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 09:54 AM

Militant attacks? They teach wiping out Israel in school.

Disproportionate? You are brainwashed.



I mentioned both of them, that includes the other guys, you know the brown ones, wishing death on Americas enemies makes me a good christian right?

You are ranking up there as the stupidest poster around.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 10:00 AM

Disproportionate? You are brainwashed.

Actually I was quoting the Israeli prime minister on that one.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said: "We've said that if there is rocket fire against the south of the country, there will be a severe and disproportionate Israeli response to the fire on the citizens of Israel and its security forces.


At least Israel admits they are using disproportionate amount of force, it's the conservatives here who are pretending that it isn't.

Who exactly is the brainwashed?
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 10:49 AM

You are ranking up there as the stupidest poster around.



why do you hate america
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 11:31 AM

Israel will go to war with Hamas, and we (Barry) will sit by and do nothing.


why should he? I know you think getting involved in every war possible is a good thing, but history tells us thats not such a great idea.

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 11:41 AM

Do you libs wish Israel was done as a Democracy?

Should they cede ALL of their land to Hamas?
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 12:18 PM

Do you libs wish Israel was done as a Democracy?

Should they cede ALL of their land to Hamas?

No, but they shouldn't keep (ironicly) expanding their borders and kicking people out of their homes into ghettos.

This is over "holy land". What a crock of sh!t. Let them blow each other up so they can fight for something that is a figment of their imaginations.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 01:07 PM

Do you libs wish Israel was done as a Democracy?

Should they cede ALL of their land to Hamas?

You mean the land that was taken from the Arabs by force because the Western world felt bad about the Holocaust and thought they could "make it up" to the Jews by re-establishing their ancestral homeland of Israel?

Listen, I'm not saying Israel should be destroyed, but you'd be foolish not to recognize how this whole thing got started. The West stuck its nose where it didn't belong and it pissed off the locals. Seems to be a common thread in world history.

Maybe Deke's right. Let 'em blow each other up. Could be that the only way there's ever going to be peace over there is if there's no one left to do the fighting.
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 03:30 PM

When they respond to militant attacks with disproportionate amount of force you are going to alienate your religious brothers abroad.



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Posted 23 March 2009 - 03:49 PM

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said: "We've said that if there is rocket fire against the south of the country, there will be a severe and disproportionate Israeli response to the fire on the citizens of Israel and its security forces.

The guy who runs the country says their will be disproportionate response. Take it up with him.
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