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#21 peteyvegas

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:06 AM

I cant recall any team losing big games in the last minute or two of play like this team. That's what I meant by character.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:09 AM

Class is something else. I give them plenty of credit for that.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:18 AM

I did like that Lou said that "excuses are for losers."

Sometimes sh!t just happens. We deal with it, we move on. We try to fix what caused the breakdown, but ultimately, it wasn't a particular person's fault. A lot of things had to happen to get to this point. We could have won the first overtime game. We could have prevented that goal from coming in with .02 seconds. We could have cleared the puck. Could've, could've, could've. We can go on forever about this. But it's done.

Let's look to the future.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:30 AM

Take full responsibility all you want but if he keeps putting a band-aid on a bullet wound then nothing changes, every fan, member of the media, and anyone else who follows the Devils know exactly what we say on this board all the time. We need a 2nd line center to help out Elias and a puck moving defenseman who can score goals and until we get those its going to be hard to win...all the Rolston's, Holik's, and Havelid's in the world won't change that...

Year after year Lou tries to strike gold with some insane plan and recently its just been bringing back people who have had success in the past with this organization and it hasn't worked.

As a Cowboys fan I can say that media, fans, and even the players all judge the Cowboys on 2 things, December and the Playoffs, and because of that they are failing...

If the Devils were judged on the same thing (the end of the season and the playoffs) then we would be considered an above average team at best, and as a fan, that's not good enough, I want better...
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 10:55 AM

Whoever said staal is better shooter than parise, should seriously watch them in practice.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 10:56 AM

look we all love parise. but parise is so good because he outworks everyone else on the ice, has excellent hands and very good hockey sense.

but he does not have the skill, shot, or strength of eric staal.

if you are able to match parise's drive (certainly not easy) and are an above average defender, you can contain him.

staal at his best can beat any defenseman.

all that being said, i would take parise 100 times over staal because i can't stand that diving prick.



Ok because Parise is not "as big as Staal"... How about the others?? Whitney over Elias? the guy plys NO DEFENSE (Whitney) Brindy over Langs???? Come on I dont want to hear about how great Carolina is or they have world class players... They have Staal and Whitney is a good player past that who do they have?? They beat the Devils, the Devils did not show up for large portions of this series .
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:56 PM

Ok because Parise is not "as big as Staal"... How about the others?? Whitney over Elias? the guy plys NO DEFENSE (Whitney) Brindy over Langs???? Come on I dont want to hear about how great Carolina is or they have world class players... They have Staal and Whitney is a good player past that who do they have?? They beat the Devils, the Devils did not show up for large portions of this series .


nobody is arguing that carolina has world class players. staal is better than anyone on the devils and he played like it when it counted. whitney had a better series than elias.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:02 PM

nobody is arguing that carolina has world class players. staal is better than anyone on the devils and he played like it when it counted. whitney had a better series than elias.


I'm not sure that's the phrasing of it, but Staal is a smarter and stronger player than any of the DEFENSEMAN the Devils have/played against him. I thought Madden and Co. did a masterful job for the most part, but couldn't make up for bad defensive pairing decisions in order to stop him.

As for Elias, he needs a center sure. But he was hurt in hte last 4-6 weeks of the season.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:18 PM

look we all love parise. but parise is so good because he outworks everyone else on the ice, has excellent hands and very good hockey sense.

but he does not have the skill, shot, or strength of eric staal.

if you are able to match parise's drive (certainly not easy) and are an above average defender, you can contain him.

staal at his best can beat any defenseman.

all that being said, i would take parise 100 times over staal because i can't stand that diving prick.



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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:13 PM

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:53 PM

His players have a TON OF CHARACTER. This team played its balls off, it just didn't have the talent to matchup in the danger zone when things get fvcking crazy (i.e. last minutes of games)


That's nonsense -- they lacked presence of mind, not talent... all the talent in the world can't help if you still skate around like a chicken with it's head cut off.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 05:10 PM

nobody is arguing that carolina has world class players. staal is better than anyone on the devils and he played like it when it counted. whitney had a better series than elias.



Sundstrum, did you read my initial post on this?? I was responding to someone and there was a quote talking about Carolina's "world class players" that was my point!!!!!! And we will agree to disagree on Staal, yes he is a bigger player, but Parise does just as many things well as he Staal does.

Stats dont always tell the story, but come on

Parise 45 goals 94 points a + 30 14 PP goals 8 GW goals 364 shots

Staal 40 goals 75 Points a +15 15 PP goals 8 GW goals 372 shots

Where is Staal the better player?? And Whitney had a "better Series" that is not what I said I said is he a better player than Elias?? Because him having a "better series" says what I was trying to say, that the Devils top players did not play to potential!! Again is Brindamore better than Langs??

I go back to the same thing, the Devils were outplayed but not by better players, they did not play to their potential, and I also say that if these teams played in mid Feb, it would have been the Devils in 5, and there would be no calling Staal better than any Devil or anything like that!!!
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 07:21 PM

Where is Staal the better player??

I go back to the same thing, the Devils were outplayed but not by better players, they did not play to their potential, and I also say that if these teams played in mid Feb, it would have been the Devils in 5,


parise had an incredible season - this was not one of staal's best. parise had career years from his linemates - staal most definitly did not. again, this is not to knock parise at all. he's awesome for sure.

regarding the second part, i agree 100%
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