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#41 squishyx

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 01:55 PM

Bah, this whole "quitter" talk is ridiculous. Since when has the length of a coach's contract ever meant anything? Has a coach ever worked the exact length of a contract? In any sport? Ever? It seems like coaches always are either fired or step down before the contract itself expires. This is just more of the same.

Because in NJ as a coach you don't quit before you contract is up, you get fired :P

I don't care that he left, I care about the drama train he boarded and circled the team with for no reason. Good luck, good bye, good riddance.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:06 PM

I don't care that he left, I care about the drama train he boarded and circled the team with for no reason. Good luck, good bye, good riddance.


That's fair enough.

I'm not gonna get angry with the guy. He announced that he's stepping down early enough that there are still plenty of good replacement candidates available. Niedermayer didn't give us that courtesy. And he changed the philosophy of the team in a good way, if only for the majority of one regular season. The last coach who really drastically changed anything in New Jersey was Jacques Lemaire, and that set us up for a good decade of success. I can only hope that Lou makes his next coaching hire with the same forward-thinking frame of mind that he hired Sutter with.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:15 PM

Billy Donovan syndrome anyone?
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:24 PM

Would anyone care if he left after winning the Cup? I doubt it...

And this wasn't about quitting because he didn't think he could get the job done or the most out of his players. It was about family and his life at home. Did anyone call Larry a quitter when he couldn't even finish half a season?
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:32 PM

Would anyone care if he left after winning the Cup? I doubt it...



Maybe....plus he'd still be coaching right now.... :P and not home now.


And this wasn't about quitting because he didn't think he could get the job done or the most out of his players. It was about family and his life at home. Did anyone call Larry a quitter when he couldn't even finish half a season?



yea probably; someone called larry a quitter then...
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:02 PM

Would anyone care if he left after winning the Cup? I doubt it...

And this wasn't about quitting because he didn't think he could get the job done or the most out of his players. It was about family and his life at home. Did anyone call Larry a quitter when he couldn't even finish half a season?


Oh please, this is so different it's hardly worth arguing. Sutter quit because he'd rather manage Red Deer than coach the Devils. Larry quit because he cared too much and had physical issues because of it. Plus he was dragged in to coach out of loyalty to Lou because Burns had a relapse.

And it's different from the Nieds thing too, the Nieds thing gets so overrated. He waited three freaking days. He wanted the Ducks to make a commitment to his brother, that's what he was waiting for. Plus his contract was over when he left and he did a lot for the Devils. He didn't come here for two years and leave when he couldn't hack it.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:18 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:24 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?

If that stuff were the case, and I think you are reaching, I would say "i'm a quitter, and I have more important things to worry about".

Still a quitter though.

And don't even try to compare 2 years of service of Sutter to the decade of loyalty Doc has given to this team. an NHL coach is the most premier position you can have in a coaching profession, being a local play by play is not the most premier position you can have as a broad caster. And he didn't even leave the Devils!
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:24 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?


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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:30 PM

If that stuff were the case, and I think you are reaching, I would say "i'm a quitter, and I have more important things to worry about".

Still a quitter though.

And don't even try to compare 2 years of service of Sutter to the decade of loyalty Doc has given to this team. an NHL coach is the most premier position you can have in a coaching profession, being a local play by play is not the most premier position you can have as a broad caster. And he didn't even leave the Devils!

So if your marriage or child's mental/physical health was in possible jeopardy it wouldn't matter?

All THAT MATTERS in the NJ Devils?

Selfish much?

Didn't you ever learn not to judge someone - especially when you have like 10% of the whole story?

Or is he obligated to disclose personal matters of his marriage and family because he's in a "premier position in the NHL"?

I guess Pat Burns is a quitter too regardless of his issues?
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:32 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?


First of all the whole marriage thing is total speculation, there's nothing to substantiate anything of that nature.

Secondly, why did he leave in the first place if being away from home was such an issue? He more than anyone should have known the price he'd have to pay coaching 3000 miles away, he played most of his career 3000 miles away from his family. I don't want to say he did it for the money per se but you could make that argument.

The Doc thing is totally different, he's under contract to work for VS and NBC - sometimes national games conflict with the local broadcast. He took a leave of absence for his dad, he didn't quit - and if he did so be it he's an announcer, a great and enjoyable one but other people don't depend on him for the success of the team.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:49 PM

First of all the whole marriage thing is total speculation, there's nothing to substantiate anything of that nature.

Secondly, why did he leave in the first place if being away from home was such an issue? He more than anyone should have known the price he'd have to pay coaching 3000 miles away, he played most of his career 3000 miles away from his family. I don't want to say he did it for the money per se but you could make that argument.

The Doc thing is totally different, he's under contract to work for VS and NBC - sometimes national games conflict with the local broadcast. He took a leave of absence for his dad, he didn't quit - and if he did so be it he's an announcer, a great and enjoyable one but other people don't depend on him for the success of the team.

I'm just saying we don't know the whole story so lets not rush to crucify him.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:50 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?


This. And this again.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?

So for now I've got to say "get over it people". Stop being selfish and respect the guys value of family. There's a bigger world out there than JUST NJ hockey.
What iff it was your Dad or your marriage?

FU too,



He is not the first guy to take a job in another town. His wife could have come with him to NJ, or flow flown over here on a regular basis. He was making enough money. A Girl that demands you leave your team is not worth it anyway. If he did not know what he was getting into before he signed the deal, then he is just plain stupid.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

'left without a chair?' pat quinn and jacques martin do resemble furniture, i'll grant you, but i don't think any of the coaches that have been hired are guys the devils would've been interested in.


I reread what i wrote and that was really the wrong phrase to use. i guess i just feel that this last month lou could've been vetting choices and had someone in place. then again, as long as he's got it by 7/1, i suppose its fine.

I gotta say a big FU to those calling the guy a quitter.
Although I'm not pleased with the way it wen down in the last months, part of me believes that might have been a smokesreen to buy time for Lou to get a plan together.
Fact is, if he goes directly to CAL, I'll believe he's a traitor.
If not, he did what he did for his family, maybe even to save his marriage as someone said. Like a real man.
If this was a decision by King Scott Stevens people here would be lauding it (including you PK) like he was "humanitarian of the year".
Then again there are a lot of young single dudes on this board that probably don't have that kind of perspective yet.

Was Doc Emerick a "quitter" when he leaves to go do broadcasts for Vs. or NBC, or when his Dad passed away?


if lou names a successor this week, then he knew for a while. if not, there's no smokescreen.
i have no problem that he chose family over this team - nobody does. but why didn't he choose it two years ago?
enough with the scott stevens stuff. i think you don't give enough people on this board credit to say that stevens is in someway a current day messiah.
you don't need to be a married late 40's guy with a family to have perspective.

your Doc analogy is ridiculous - it is in no way similar to what this is.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:54 PM

So if your marriage or child's mental/physical health was in possible jeopardy it wouldn't matter?

All THAT MATTERS in the NJ Devils?

Selfish much?

Didn't you ever learn not to judge someone - especially when you have like 10% of the whole story?

Or is he obligated to disclose personal matters of his marriage and family because he's in a "premier position in the NHL"?

I guess Pat Burns is a quitter too regardless of his issues?

No, if you bothered to read what I wrote, I said I would quit, and would be a quitter and wouldn't care that people called me a quitter since I had more important things like those you mentioned.

Which is more or less his attitude but It doesn't make him any less the quitter.

You are coming pretty far out of left field on those random speculations, it's much more likely the guy wasn't enjoying his time here and wanted to go home and wait for the chance to coach the Flames.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:54 PM

FU too,



He is not the first guy to take a job in another town. His wife could have come with him to NJ, or flow flown over here on a regular basis. He was making enough money. A Girl that demands you leave your team is not worth it anyway. If he did not know what he was getting into before he signed the deal, then he is just plain stupid.



The guy has a 17-year-old daughter he didn't want to uproot to move not only 3,000 miles away, but to ANOTHER COUNTRY. That's all well and good if you have a 7 year old... but I'm not uprooting my daughter out of high school in her senior fvcking year. Some people on this board really need a fvcking perspective. The world doesn't revolve around the Devils.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:54 PM

I'm sorry, but Sutter is not a quitter. Understand his reasonings.

I agree with you DevilinLA.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:02 PM

The guy has a 17-year-old daughter he didn't want to uproot to move not only 3,000 miles away, but to ANOTHER COUNTRY. That's all well and good if you have a 7 year old... but I'm not uprooting my daughter out of high school in her senior fvcking year. Some people on this board really need a fvcking perspective. The world doesn't revolve around the Devils.



You are telling me he his daughter surprisingly became 17?
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:06 PM

You are telling me he his daughter surprisingly became 17?



Ya know what dude, it's pretty obvious to me you are incapable of putting yourself in another person's shoes and empathizing with a situation. Talk to me after you've had a family and see if your attitude changes. I hope it does for the sake of your family.

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