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#81 devilsrule33

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:11 PM

Lemme rephrase that then, he didn't want to leave Red Deer in the first place. Lou and Vanderbeek admitted at one point they were talking with him for I think eighteen months before he actually took the job. That (and Lou's acknowledgement that it was a year to year thing) tells me he was very hesitant to leave and Lou just wanted the guy that badly that he was willing to risk this happening.


This is why I don't understand why you fault MacLean for getting overlooked by Lou before Sutter got the job. It was clear Lou wanted Sutter that badly more so than MacLean not being ready.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:17 PM

This is why I don't understand why you fault MacLean for getting overlooked by Lou before Sutter got the job. It was clear Lou wanted Sutter that badly more so than MacLean not being ready.


Mac's been passed over four times as the coach (and not even offered a job by anyone else in the meantime) and after every time we've heard Lou's bs that he'll be a great coach in this league someday. Sutter was supposed to be a long-term solution which would have meant J-Mac would never get the coaching job here. As it is Lou'll probably bring back Lemaire or some other experienced coach because it is a win-now team, pass Mac over for the fifth time and say the same thing again.

Plus it seems like he's on the staff more to be Lou's mole than anything else since he gets foisted on everyone including Sutter and stays despite always being passed over though if I were him I might want to stay an assistant anyway, it seems as if he's got much better job security there.

Edited by Hasan4978, 09 June 2009 - 11:18 PM.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:39 PM

Mac's been passed over four times as the coach (and not even offered a job by anyone else in the meantime) and after every time we've heard Lou's bs that he'll be a great coach in this league someday. Sutter was supposed to be a long-term solution which would have meant J-Mac would never get the coaching job here. As it is Lou'll probably bring back Lemaire or some other experienced coach because it is a win-now team, pass Mac over for the fifth time and say the same thing again.

Plus it seems like he's on the staff more to be Lou's mole than anything else since he gets foisted on everyone including Sutter and stays despite always being passed over though if I were him I might want to stay an assistant anyway, it seems as if he's got much better job security there.


I still think MacLean did a heck of a job in the second half of the 2005-2006 season. He ran the bench and the team won 9 and 15 games in a row. Please try and tell me that he didn't do one hell of a job that season.

Pierre McGuire who has been a huge supporter of MacLean for a long time said this morning that he believes J-Mac deserves the job. Sure most of you could care less what Pierre things, but he is the only guy in the business who broadcasts from between the benches and has the closest look of how a coach runs the bench. He mentioned how impressive MacLean looked the entire 4-game sweep of the Rangers.

As for being passed over, he pretty much was given the opportunity to coach with Lou's guidance in 2006 and 2007. When have you ever seen a head coach get fired in the middle of the season and his replacement is an assistant coach with no head coaching experience at any level? It just doesn't happen...especially not on a team where the playoffs are a must. There has been a quite the trend of GMs coming down after firing a coach (Gainey, Doug MacLean, Waddell, Murray...

And again...why would any team go after an assistant with no head coaching experience from a team that hasn't even gotten passed the second round in years? It just doesn't happen like that in hockey.

Now if Lou passes MacLean again...well I agree he doesn't think that much of him...but Mac is now a lot more experienced and ready than he was before...and Lou doesn't have a hard on for anyone else out there like he did with Sutter.

Edited by devilsrule33, 09 June 2009 - 11:46 PM.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:43 PM

I still think MacLean did a heck of a job in the second half of the 2005-2006 season. He ran the bench and the team won 9 and 15 games in a row. Please try and tell me that he didn't do one hell of a job that season.

Pierre McGuire who has been a huge supporter of MacLean for a long time said this morning that he believes J-Mac deserves the job. Sure most of you could care less what Pierre things, but he is the only guy in the business who broadcasts from between the benches and has the closest look of how a coach runs the bench. He mentioned how impressive MacLean looked the entire 4-game sweep of the Rangers.

As for being passed over, he pretty much was given the opportunity to coach with Lou's guidance in 2006 and 2007. When have you ever seen a head coach get fired in the middle of the season and his replacement is an assistant coach with no head coaching experience at any level? It just doesn't happen. There has been a quite the trend of GMs coming down after firing a coach (Gainey, Doug MacLean, Waddell, Murray...

And again...why would any team go after an assistant with no head coaching experience from a team that hasn't even gotten passed the second round in years? It just doesn't happen like that in hockey.

Now if Lou passes MacLean again...well I agree he doesn't think that much of him...but Mac is now a lot more experienced and ready than he was before...and Lou doesn't have a hard on for anyone else out there like he did with Sutter.



I'm not sure I'd say that Johnny is more experienced and ready.

He's never been an HC ANYWHERE else in the NHL, much less NJ.

I'll eat crow on this board if it's anyone else but Johnny, but I'm not going to be shocked at all if it is him.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 08:54 AM

The East coast is a very tough place to move TO or AWAY from.

I know Sutter just moved into a place in Montclair that he was thrilled about when I at least talked about it with him. When I spoke with him in March he was really happy and smiling and talkative which is the complete opposite of how he looked at, before, and after games. Sure the way he spoke with me could have just been an act.

The three year deal was a mistake. Obviously it took a while for Brent to be convinced to leave Canada to come to Jersey to coach.

If the man wants to go home and be with his family, fine. If he turns up as the Flames coach next season, I'll enjoy the compensation but I'll lose even more respect for him as a person.

The way this was handled from the beginning is what's bothering me most about this process.

We were on this board bashing (N)Đ„verson and Brooks for suggesting that Sutter was thinking of stepping down. We thought it was just pander by the media to distract the Devils from playing hockey. It turns out they were right on.

Sutter should have kept this quiet until the season was over. We ended up having the team play for a coach they knew didn't want to be here... I mean c'mon! The guy looked like someone shot his dog in EVERY interview. It was depressing to watch. It's almost embarrassing for him that we had to have him bore us to tears every night. After a Devils win, watching his press conferences would actually take some of the joy out of it.

Good riddance... you're a good coach, but a baby.

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