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[SS-SS]

The main reason why I'm starting to think we'll sign Koivu is because Єklund (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate) has yet to report it!!!
ADVANTAGE... DEVILS!

hahhah +100

[Jerzey Devil]

i can't see rags offering anything more than us at this point, they are out of cash, and anaheim is just anaheim, if he wants to go there we can't stop him. if he wants a shot at the cup he's gonna have to go to anaheim or devils.

This and the Rags might still want to try to get Kovalev back so they might not have offered as much.

[Revan]

I'm all for signing Koivu at this point. It's a bad year for GMs looking for centers and Cammaleri, Saku and Antropov were pretty much the only reasonable options for the top 2 lines.

I think Lou is making it too big of a drama about re-signing Martin next year. Paul will be getting 4.5M next year, so how much of a raise is he going to get? 1 milion probably. He won't get a six milion contract. So even with the cap probably going down the Devils need about 2-3 milion of cap space to sign Martin next year no problem. They don't need 9 milion of cap space to give a guy a milion of raise.

And Koivu signing with the Rangers is certainly a possibility. Don't be fooled. The Rags still have 16 milion of space (according to nhlnumbers.com at least), although they do have a lot of RFAs to re-sign. But it's Sather and you can't expect him to act reasonably, so knowing him he will offer Saku a five year deal averaging 6 milion a season.

[deb4te]

if koivu would cost us paul martin.... screw koivu.

[sameblood]

if koivu would cost us paul martin.... screw koivu.

+1.

[ice dog]

how's his eye? i remember he had that nasty stick in his eye a few years back...looked horrific.
if he's healthy he would be a nice addition, fill the spot vacated by madden...nice 2 way center with some offensive finnish.

[SS-SS]

how's his eye? i remember he had that nasty stick in his eye a few years back...looked horrific.
if he's healthy he would be a nice addition, fill the spot vacated by madden...nice 2 way center with some offensive finnish.

Plus i think he would be even more great with us cuz at Montreal they have that art of making a player look bad.

Edited by SS-SS, 03 July 2009 - 02:12 PM.

[maxpower]

the rumor is that we're offering 4 years and the Rangers are 3. this sounds very familiar to the Rolston situation that everyone loves. and there's a Kovalev rumor. if Lou caved in because people called up and started whining, I'm going to be disgusted.

4 years for f'n Koivu, who will probably mail it in. I would have to assume this deal would be between $16-20M. in that case, kiss Martin goodbye, you might as well trade him now and get return.

I think if he could get that he already would have signed that type of deal. I'm going to guess teams are willing to pay him well short term or get value for him long term but nobody has stepped up and offered to pay him well long term, which is probably what he hopes to eventually get.

For example, the Devils would probably be willing to overpay short term but won't even bother at any value level long term. So Koivu's agent will struggle working out a good long term deal if all the teams are in that same mindset on him but he could be able to really play teams off each other on the short term deals until he was way overpaid next season.

no, the likelyhood is that he doesn't really want to play for us, but if we have the best offer at the end, he will grudgingly accept it. which of course, is the kind of player you absolutely want on your roster.

[nmigliore]

the rumor is that we're offering 4 years and the Rangers are 3.

where did u hear this?

Edited by nmigliore, 03 July 2009 - 02:21 PM.

[maxpower]

where did u hear this?

it's in an article somewhere. I'll fetch and edit later. I do believe you will need to translate.

EDIT: never mind, it wasn't one of the french articles. you won't need to translate

http://insidepittsbu...y-frenzy/13689/

Edited by maxpower, 03 July 2009 - 02:28 PM.

[Devs4LIFE]

how's his eye? i remember he had that nasty stick in his eye a few years back...looked horrific.
if he's healthy he would be a nice addition, fill the spot vacated by madden...nice 2 way center with some offensive finnish.

Pun intended?

2 days ago I would have gotten excited about this but if we have to give Koivu more than 1 year then I'd rather not have him on the team. Unless of course we sign him until the year after Mikko Koivu's contract is up and then use him as bate to get Mikko to sign here muwahaha.

[Jerseydevils0324]

I remember watching the Rags vs Montreal a while ago and it was Koivu's first game back because he had cancer, and the Montreal Fans gave him an amazing standing ovation, like nothing I've ever seen before. He's a great leader too.

[Beezer34]

He's a great leader too.

...that's what the C's on his jersey stand for.

[Kulags]

Also, Maxim Afinogenov might be a cheap reclamation project with a nice upside. And besides, if we don't he'll be reborn in Carolina and beat Martin Brodeur with a game 7 flip shot from center ice with 0.01 seconds left...then we'll all be sorry.

i would like to see maxim here, but where would he fit? you gotta give the second line RW slot to Rolston. he will be better this year having the summer to fully heal his ankle. patty's played center but he's horrible at faceoffs and clearly more comfortable at LW.

we need a pivot, but i'm not sure it's koivu. admittedly, there aren't many viable options beyond him that have the speed to work with elias & rolston. morrison's out there, but he's developed into a mediocre bum. roenick is old. sakic will retire with the avs, no question, plus he's old. gtfo with mats sundin, he'll be skipping practice to go to AC and lou's not looking to sign someone for that kind of insane dinero.

so koivu? yeah, i guess he's the best we can do at this point.

[Devils Pride 26]

We cannot have Koivu for more than a year for 2 reasons. One is the cap which has been covered a few times. The second I haven't seen talked about yet is Koivu blocking Josefson and Cormier next year and the following years. All signs point to Cormier, Josefson, and Tedenby being ready to make an impact by 2011. I would hate to see these guys blocked by our dead weight.

[Prucenterrules]

I would like to add him but we can't overspend on him.

[Niaure]

Saku Koivu is one of my favorite players ever. I would be very happy if we'll get him. He's a true leader...

[HockeyR53]

I want him if it is or one year.

[DevilinLA]

"I only want him if he plays for free, and pays Lou 1M a year"
- Some of you guys, really entertaining....

Two days ago people were crying for Lou's head, now everyone's got a qualifier for the deal....

This guy has a choice between playing with his brother, or playing with his good friend Teemu in ANA.

If we're going to lure him over, we're either going to need to use years or a Ridonkulus one year deal that will make people pass out.

Why else would he come here? (Cue the "history of excellence speech" - in that Hank Hill voice)

[devilsrule33]

"I only want him if he plays for free, and pays Lou 1M a year"
- Some of you guys, really entertaining....

Two days ago people were crying for Lou's head, now everyone's got a qualifier for the deal....

This guy has a choice between playing with his brother, or playing with his good friend Teemu in ANA.

If we're going to lure him over, we're either going to need to use years or a Ridonkulus one year deal that will make people pass out.

Why else would he come here? (Cue the "history of excellence speech" - in that Hank Hill voice)

I might be wrong, but I don't think the ones who said that two days ago are the same ones saying that now. I think a lot of people here are being reasonable. They want a player of Koivu's skill, but don't want to break the bank for him either and handcuff Lou with any long-term deal. I haven't read anyone say that they realistically think Lou will get him on these terms.