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#61 El Diablo

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:13 PM

a legitimate shot at the cup?


Ill have what he's smoking please ...
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:17 PM

Ill have what he's smoking please ...


I wouldn't take the chance it looks really powerful.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:21 PM

yeah, i can't believe i actually made a thoughtful post in response to that but ive gotten flamed enough tonight
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:22 PM

yeah, i can't believe i actually made a thoughtful post


i can't believe you think that's a thoughtful post. if the devils sign koivu they're a pretty good team for this year and certainly have a chance at the stanley cup
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:33 PM

We cannot have Koivu for more than a year for 2 reasons. One is the cap which has been covered a few times. The second I haven't seen talked about yet is Koivu blocking Josefson and Cormier next year and the following years. All signs point to Cormier, Josefson, and Tedenby being ready to make an impact by 2011. I would hate to see these guys blocked by our dead weight.

I don't think that this would be the main problem with signing Saku, as there are ways to move him and get his money off the cap. If his body holds up, we could trade him to a team in desperate need of a center when a guy like Josefson is ready to step in. Additionally, if Saku runs into injuries problems, we could probably hide him well enough with LTIR, Lowell, and possible retirement. Obviously we don't want a guy in the minors making too much, but if JV is prepared to eat the potential salary we could hide Saku if necessary.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:35 PM

i can't believe you think that's a thoughtful post. if the devils sign koivu they're a pretty good team for this year and certainly have a chance at the stanley cup


You're correct but only for this year.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:39 PM

i can't believe you think that's a thoughtful post. if the devils sign koivu they're a pretty good team for this year and certainly have a chance at the stanley cup


If a player is going to sign a 1 year deal for a chance to win the cup, I don't think he'd do it if he thought that he was the 'missing piece'. a one year cup-seeking deal is when a player goes to a team that he actually thinks already can win the cup, and he goes along for the ride. I don't think at this point in his career that Koivu is good enough by himself to cross a team over from a noncontender (or, a playoff maker but not a good shot at a cup run) to a legit contender, but you may value koivu more highly than that
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 07:54 AM

If a player is going to sign a 1 year deal for a chance to win the cup, I don't think he'd do it if he thought that he was the 'missing piece'. a one year cup-seeking deal is when a player goes to a team that he actually thinks already can win the cup, and he goes along for the ride. I don't think at this point in his career that Koivu is good enough by himself to cross a team over from a noncontender (or, a playoff maker but not a good shot at a cup run) to a legit contender, but you may value koivu more highly than that


it's not that i value koivu so highly, it's that he gives the devils 3 pretty damn good forward lines if he joins up.

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hard to argue with that. it most certainly gives the devils a chance.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 10:36 AM

If this is true...

Sign with the Devils Saku! Sign with the Devils!

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 12:42 PM

It's pretty widely accepted here that this team is 'being built for the future'. We're saving up to sign our own players in a few years. We can't possibly sign koivu for more than one year, and, just looking at all 30 teams for this one season, the devils aren't going to be at the top of the list to win the cup. if he was to sign a one year deal with a team hoping to win the cup, it wouldn't be with NJ. this isn't a team built for 'right now'.

I don't see why a cup contender last season goes to a team rebuilding for the future when Madden, Rupp, and Gionta move on. Together Madden and Rupp had a -9 plus/minus. We may feel a little at loss by Gionta's offensive abilty. But if Koivu were signed here, I don't see why this team wouldn't be a cup contender. Even without signing a guy like Koivu, we could have a good shot, but its a bit unpredictable how the youth on the team will play in the NHL.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 12:45 PM

I don't see why a cup contender last season goes to a team rebuilding for the future when Madden, Rupp, and Gionta move on. Together Madden and Rupp had a -9 plus/minus. We may feel a little at loss by Gionta's offensive abilty. But if Koivu were signed here, I don't see why this team wouldn't be a cup contender. Even without signing a guy like Koivu, we could have a good shot, but its a bit unpredictable how the youth on the team will play in the NHL.

+1

Also we Still have Brodeur... who knows maybe towards the end of the playoffs last year he was feeling it still in his elbow.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 01:01 PM

So how long do we have to wait on this.. I'm too impatient
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 01:02 PM

why would he want to play in nj?


We have good pizza.

I don't see why a cup contender last season goes to a team rebuilding for the future when Madden, Rupp, and Gionta move on. Together Madden and Rupp had a -9 plus/minus. We may feel a little at loss by Gionta's offensive abilty. But if Koivu were signed here, I don't see why this team wouldn't be a cup contender. Even without signing a guy like Koivu, we could have a good shot, but its a bit unpredictable how the youth on the team will play in the NHL.


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Gionta, Madden and Rupp combined for 30 goals last year. The last time Rolston played a full, healthy season, he scored 31. I'm not saying a healthy Rolston will singlehandedly replace these three guys, but these three departures don't really create a giant statistical void and Rolston will certainly put up more than the 15 he scored last year if he stays healthy and isn't stuck with stone-handed linemates again. Throw in reasonable estimates for Bergfors and whatever other youngins make the squad and we really aren't in bad shape.

Adding Koivu would just be monkeyshine.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 02:15 PM

i think rolston is going to have a monster season now that he will actually get to play in the top two lines. between him and parise we will have a potent offense.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 02:18 PM

Koivu is a pipedream. Start thinking more Robert Lang in a cheap 1 year deal or maybe even Mike Comrie.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 02:23 PM

We have good pizza.

I've been interning at a roller hockey rink in Edison, and every day I hear a guy from Staten Island complain about New Jersey's pizza. Next one is going to get smacked.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 03:00 PM

Koivu is a pipedream. Start thinking more Robert Lang in a cheap 1 year deal or maybe even Mike Comrie.

Not really. The Devils actually offered Koivu a contract, so it's not like some irrational fans screaming "sign Sedins/Bouwmeester/Hossa". All we can do now is wait.

BTW, guys, are there going to be any signings today or are the GMs and agents taking a day off due to July 4th?
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 04:52 PM

sounds from the rumors mills that tomorrow is a big day between toronto and san jose, so i'm guessing all american teams are just doing the fourth.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:25 PM

I really don't think a long term deal with Koivu interferes with Martins contract, it just means Lou needs to do GM things to keep him. Teams shed salary in one way or another all the time, they even did it before the cap I am not worried.

That said, while I think he would be a most welcome addition, I don't think it happens, we forget their are lots of other teams trying to improve before next season starts and they are less stringent with their purse strings, for better or worse.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:24 PM

I guess someone's got a story, but via Spector, Kovalev's agent says that the NJ Devils never offered a contract and are not amongst the 5/6/ teams left biddin gfor his services....

Hmmmm.....
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Didn't think we were....

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