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#41 Nature's Minister

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 02:31 PM

would it be possible in a million years to pry umberger away from CBJ?
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 09:26 PM

Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.


Along the lines of what Tri said, I followed Murphy closely once he made it to the NHL. He was getting lots of comparisons to Brian Rafalski (surprise surprise). He good off to a great start as a rookie, putting up 17 points in 47 games... but then missed the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. The next season, he sustained another shoulder injury that knocked him out for half the season... and when he played, it's clear he wasn't healthy. Finally getting shipped to Tampa Bay was a blessing for him because he got lots of ice time, lots of PP time, and could be a specialist. Now granted, 15 points in 25 games is nothing to sneeze at, nor is being a -3 on a terrible Tampa team. He's a low risk/high reward player, but you gotta have room for him on your team.

Surprised Atlanta's not gambling on him, but they have Enstrom and Salmela. I'd say Columbus should gamble, but they're grooming Kris Russel. Maybe Buffalo, NYI, Phoenix... St. Louis if they're not convinced Pietrangelo is ready.



Still would like to see us pick up Dominic Moore as well. 45 points in 82 games last year is really not a bad return. Play him between Elias and Rolston and thats not a bad line at all.

Parise/Zajac/Langs
Elias/Moore/Rolston
Pandolfo/Zubrus/Clarkson
Pikka/Pelley/Bergfors

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I'm still not entirely convinced Moore isn't the second coming of Rico Fata. Seems allergic to scoring for years in the NHL, then has one very productive season on a bad team. I haven't seen him play all that much, admittedly, but I don't have the guts to proclaim him an outright 2nd line center yet in the NHL.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 09:46 AM


Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.


Along the lines of what Tri said, I followed Murphy closely once he made it to the NHL. He was getting lots of comparisons to Brian Rafalski (surprise surprise). He good off to a great start as a rookie, putting up 17 points in 47 games... but then missed the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. The next season, he sustained another shoulder injury that knocked him out for half the season... and when he played, it's clear he wasn't healthy. Finally getting shipped to Tampa Bay was a blessing for him because he got lots of ice time, lots of PP time, and could be a specialist. Now granted, 15 points in 25 games is nothing to sneeze at, nor is being a -3 on a terrible Tampa team. He's a low risk/high reward player, but you gotta have room for him on your team.

Surprised Atlanta's not gambling on him, but they have Enstrom and Salmela. I'd say Columbus should gamble, but they're grooming Kris Russel. Maybe Buffalo, NYI, Phoenix... St. Louis if they're not convinced Pietrangelo is ready.


or... new jersey.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 09:57 AM

Get out of my head LOU !!!!

Zubrus, Rolston and now Murphy.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:11 AM

nichol might've been interesting but i think new jersey already has a player like him in pikkarainen.

(i know you posted that only for the goc news - definitely think lou's got to have his eye on marcel goc)


on a side note... remember Sascha Goc? lol god he sucked
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 09:18 AM

Aaron Portzline from the Columbus Dispatch reporting that Atlanta has offered a 4-year, $8 million contract to Manny Malhotra - but Malhotra is holding out for offers from other clubs, even if it's for potentially less money.

Just an interesting tidbit to throw in there amidst all these discussions of just how much money Malhotra could bring in after a few seasons with inflated stats.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 09:45 AM

nice info, i_g

i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily. if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 10:10 AM

i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.

I was shocked that his top offer is $2mil per from Atlanta. I guess teams are taking this salary cap more seriously than I thought they would. If the Devils could get Manny for 1.5 - 1.75, he's be a great pickup for a short-term plug. While he's no solution for second line center, he's shown that he can put up points when paired with talent. Not that I'd expect more than 40 points out of him in a really good year, but still.

I wonder how most teams are viewing Moore now. If Malhotra's top offer is $2mil, does that put Moore in the same range from most clubs?


if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward

Ah, Rod Pelley becomes the new Cam Janssen.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 11:24 AM

i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.


If you could get him for half the price that madden would've cost, you have to do it as long as its short term
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 01:57 PM


i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.

I was shocked that his top offer is $2mil per from Atlanta. I guess teams are taking this salary cap more seriously than I thought they would. If the Devils could get Manny for 1.5 - 1.75, he's be a great pickup for a short-term plug. While he's no solution for second line center, he's shown that he can put up points when paired with talent. Not that I'd expect more than 40 points out of him in a really good year, but still.

I wonder how most teams are viewing Moore now. If Malhotra's top offer is $2mil, does that put Moore in the same range from most clubs?


if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward

Ah, Rod Pelley becomes the new Cam Janssen.


Im not so sure its how teams view Moore thats the problem, its how Moore views himself. He put up career point totals for the leafs, but did nothing for the Sabres during the stretch run. Never in his career did he score at the pace he did for the leafs this year. It wasnt so much his goal numbers that were inflated, it was the assists. Perhaps a byproduct of playing with better wingers than he ever had, but he was forced into a more prominent role than ever before. So which player are you getting? If i am a playoff team or on the brink of making it you are looking for guys that consistently make a difference. With the league wide shortage of centers a guy who is capable of 40 points in the right situation should be able to find a home. Rumors around the deadline had Moore looking for around 3m a year, lunacy on his part really. He eventually came to some sense at about 2.5. Still a lot of coin for a guy with 1 good year, who has never played a big role on a team with playoff aspirations.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 02:10 PM

Im not so sure its how teams view Moore thats the problem, its how Moore views himself. He put up career point totals for the leafs, but did nothing for the Sabres during the stretch run. Never in his career did he score at the pace he did for the leafs this year. It wasnt so much his goal numbers that were inflated, it was the assists. Perhaps a byproduct of playing with better wingers than he ever had, but he was forced into a more prominent role than ever before. So which player are you getting? If i am a playoff team or on the brink of making it you are looking for guys that consistently make a difference. With the league wide shortage of centers a guy who is capable of 40 points in the right situation should be able to find a home. Rumors around the deadline had Moore looking for around 3m a year, lunacy on his part really. He eventually came to some sense at about 2.5. Still a lot of coin for a guy with 1 good year, who has never played a big role on a team with playoff aspirations.


i can't help but think this is partly a result of brian burke telling the whole world what moore supposedly wanted.

i wouldn't pay more than $2M/year for dominic moore - there is too much of a risk that he is a 20 point player with limited value. it sure seems like the league has wised up a bit about this kind of thing (columbus a noted exception - that pahlsson contract is so bad)
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 11:50 AM

Notable Goalies still looking for work:
Martin Biron
Manny Fernandez
Manny Legace
Martin Gerber
Brent Johnson
Joey MacDonald
Curtis Sanford
Wade Dubielewicz
Kevin Weekes.


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Posted 21 July 2009 - 02:23 PM

Brent Johnson signs with the Penguins on a one-year deal.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 09:54 PM

Has Robert Lang been discussed on this board? Maybe I am going a little delusional, but I'm starting to think he could be a nice pickup for one year only. I have no idea why he hasn't signed with anyone. Perhaps a two-year deal is scaring teams off, but I would definitely overpay him by a nice amount for a one year contract. His season ended early, but 18 goals and 21 assists in 50 games last year sounded pretty good to me.

Seems Lou has overpaid guys for two year deals...like Malakhov, McGillis and Mogilny. I'm all in favour for him to overpay for one year. Lang and Elias would work nicely.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 10:02 PM

Has Robert Lang been discussed on this board? Maybe I am going a little delusional, but I'm starting to think he could be a nice pickup for one year only. I have no idea why he hasn't signed with anyone. Perhaps a two-year deal is scaring teams off, but I would definitely overpay him by a nice amount for a one year contract. His season ended early, but 18 goals and 21 assists in 50 games last year sounded pretty good to me.

Seems Lou has overpaid guys for two year deals...like Malakhov, McGillis and Mogilny. I'm all in favour for him to overpay for one year. Lang and Elias would work nicely.


the last thing is some revisionist history (although is certainly both true and not true), but i'd address that some other time.

lang has been discussed a lot, and his injury is to me, a deal-breaker. i would not sign a 38 year old who is coming off an achilles tendon tear. lang was never fast, he's a stiff, and he takes a ton of bad penalties. now he's coming off a debilitating injury. pass.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 10:34 PM

the last thing is some revisionist history (although is certainly both true and not true), but i'd address that some other time.

lang has been discussed a lot, and his injury is to me, a deal-breaker. i would not sign a 38 year old who is coming off an achilles tendon tear. lang was never fast, he's a stiff, and he takes a ton of bad penalties. now he's coming off a debilitating injury. pass.

Yeah but, there really is no risk if it's a one year deal. If he doesn't work, waive him or put him in the press box. Unless you think money could be better spent.

If you were given the choice of taking Lang on a one year, $2M deal or nothing (lets just say lou is only interested in a 2nd line center) which would you pick?
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:15 AM

Yeah but, there really is no risk if it's a one year deal. If he doesn't work, waive him or put him in the press box. Unless you think money could be better spent.

If you were given the choice of taking Lang on a one year, $2M deal or nothing (lets just say lou is only interested in a 2nd line center) which would you pick?


Exactly my point. One year deals can't hurt the team. Lang doesn't block any young player. I can only see him playing with Elias as an upgrade over Zubrus. It allows Zubrus to play in a more natural spot.

the last thing is some revisionist history (although is certainly both true and not true), but i'd address that some other time.


I'd be interested in hearing that. Although McGillis did take less money to come here, Mogilny and Malakhov were out of left field contracts.

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 07:27 AM

Yeah but, there really is no risk if it's a one year deal. If he doesn't work, waive him or put him in the press box. Unless you think money could be better spent.

If you were given the choice of taking Lang on a one year, $2M deal or nothing (lets just say lou is only interested in a 2nd line center) which would you pick?


honestly? nothing. it would be the igor larionov contract all over again. lang was lucky to put up the numbers he did last season. he'd just need to be replaced at the deadline (like larionov).
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:45 PM

What are people opinions on Jason Williams? 19 goals and 47 points in 80 games. Didn't play so well for the Thrashers but then once he was traded to Columbus his game started to take off putting up 29 points in 39 games with a +5, the reason that sticks out to me is because he seemed to flourish under a defensive minded hockey club. Williams would be a decent third line center playing between Rolston and Clarkson perhaps?
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