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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:08 AM

I agree. The only team in this is probably the Kings. I can't see Lou throwing away the future for nothing.


that's right, that's why rick dudley was at last night's lowell-hartford game, checking out kings prospects.

while kovalchuk isn't the only player on the thrashers who may be available, he's certainly the most prominent.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:11 AM

It's really not Lou's style to trade away so much for a rental. I'd do it, but I don't think Lou will. And that's why he's the GM and I'm just a dude on the forum.


Exactly.

Unlikely: Lou pulls the trigger and completes a trade that actually works for us in terms of the salary cap and the future. Not sure what it would be, but if anyone could figure it out it's Lou.

Likely: Lou stands pat because the price is too high. Once again we're left with an economically viable and competitively adequate team, but no attention-grabbing headlines.

Either way, like others have said, this speculation is fun while it lasts.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:12 AM

It's really not Lou's style to trade away so much for a rental. I'd do it, but I don't think Lou will. And that's why he's the GM and I'm just a dude on the forum.


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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:18 AM

If Lou wasn't serious about making a deal with Atlanta why would they be spending this time researching the Devils? We haven't heard about their GM's attending lots of other teams NHL and AHL games, right?

This doesn't mean a deal is a slam dunk but obviously there is a real possibility based on what's going on.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:21 AM

I like how Lou plays his cards though, He will always keep you guessing and he is usually doing the right thing for the team. So many people do not give Lou the credit he deserves.
If he pulls off this trade he will have looked well off into the future and its effect. But I agree this is not a Lou type of trade.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:24 AM

I think the chance of Lou getting Kovy is about 0, but I do have to admit it is pretty interesting that Atlanta has had a scout at our games for the past 3 days. The only way I see Lou pulling the trigger is if he gets some sort of commitment from Kovy that he will resign in the summer. I just don't see Lou giving up significant assets for a rental player.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:29 AM

OK, how's this for a conspiracy theory?

Lou told Waddell he could have Bergfors, Oduya and whoever he wants from Lowell. Waddell sends Dudley to the Lowell game. Lou whips up phantom "lower-body injuries" to keep Vasyunov and Eckford out of the lineup because those are the only two guys he doesn't wanna give up.

Wow, that's a stretch.

I think the chance of Lou getting Kovy is about 0, but I do have to admit it is pretty interesting that Atlanta has had a scout at our games for the past 3 days. The only way I see Lou pulling the trigger is if he gets some sort of commitment from Kovy that he will resign in the summer. I just don't see Lou giving up significant assets for a rental player.


The only way I see Lou doing it is if Kovalchuk comes with someone else, a useful player with a reasaonable contract that extends beyond this summer. I don't know enough about the Thrashers or their contracts to speculate who that might be, but think something along the lines of Dupuis going to Pittsburgh with Hossa.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:29 AM

Obviously this is a very UN-Lamoriello like deal. However, maybe he is finally sick of watching the team struggle to score goals and does not want to watch another first round exit with Marty at the helm? Time is ticking on the Brodeur Era and Lou KNOWS this. Hell, time may even be ticking in the LAMORIELLO era. This club has showed promise early and when we get healthy, with an extra piece or 2....we could make a serious, serious run at the 2010 STANLEY CUP. I also believe that Lou would not dish out the asking price for JUST a rental. If he trades for Kovie, I believe that Lou believes we have a good chance at retaining him beyond this season. Time will tell, but I hope this is all over soon. It is very nerve-wracking!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:32 AM

I doubt Lou would be offering our "future" for a rental. We have a good amount of up and coming wingers right now with a high trade value, and no room for them to develop... he's going to unload some of them at some point.

I don't think we would be in this position if we didn't have those injuries. Zharkov, Corrente, and others impressed a lot of people when they came up.

This trade may be a perfect storm for NJ. Other teams who would be in the hunt have cap problems, or they don't want to give up what Atlanta wants.

I think Lou is asking for another player to go along with this deal...maybe White (not colin).
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:35 AM

Maybe he figures with an all-White defense, he'll attract more fans from South Jersey.

I still don't see this happening. Is Lou really willing to make ILYA KOVALCHUK the highest paid Devil in history? Above Marty? Above Elias? Above Parise? WE can't have two max salary guys on our team.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:36 AM

This has been nerves central here over Kovalchuk.
Two years ago Lou was so close to getting Marian Hossa from Atlanta and had the deal on the table, but then all of a sudden Pittsburgh came in and swooped away Hossa from Lou and the Devils.

This time around I believe Lou will get his man this time in Ilya Kovalchuk. I really believe Kovalchuk is coming to New Jersey and there has been a lot of good rumors and rumblings around the Prudential Center the last couple of days from people I have spoke too there. Lou knows the window of oppurtunity for Brodeur is closing and he realizes we have a good team this season that can win it all with the right piece here and there. Lou maybe hearing some of the players on this including Brodeur on going after Kovalchuk. If maybe Kovalchuk is only a rental and they give up players like Oduya, Bergfors, Palmieri and a #1 pick and the Devils go onto win their 4th SCC, it will have been well worth it. If that 4th SCC does not happen and Kovalchuk goes elsewhere in the off season then the Devils still have good young players in Lowell for the near future then to worry about losing Bergfors, Oduya and Palmieri in that trade.

So I am all for this in Lou going for it this season. This has been needed for sometime on this Devils team and haven't had this in over 5-years. Also Lou knows even when Paul martin comes back he has to go out and make a deal for a top defenseman that can QB the PP and play some defense infront of Brodeur.

I strongly feel the Devils will be the ones to get Kovalchuk by this weekend. Lou will not lose this time around. If he does, then it would be really disappointing.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:36 AM

If Lou wasn't serious about making a deal with Atlanta why would they be spending this time researching the Devils? We haven't heard about their GM's attending lots of other teams NHL and AHL games, right?

This doesn't mean a deal is a slam dunk but obviously there is a real possibility based on what's going on.


Maybe Kovalchoke is a smokescreen and its actually for Todd White or Tobias Enstrom, which I think would be better acquisitions for us anyway (again depending on what we are giving up). I hope this is the case. Maybe the Kings get Kovlachoke and we are part of a three way deal.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:38 AM

For those people who think Lou wouldn't make this deal because it's not a "Lou type of trade"- remember: Lou has a boss. And it's possible Vanderbeek has had enough of this sh!t and has told Lou to get it done. Just something to think about.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:39 AM

Maybe Kovalchoke is a smokescreen and its actually for Todd White or Tobias Enstrom, which I think would be better acquisitions for us anyway (again depending on what we are giving up). I hope this is the case. Maybe the Kings get Kovlachoke and we are part of a three way deal.



Can you honestly say you wouldn't be excited about landing Kovalchuk? Granted, he does not necessarily fill our most pressing positional needs. BUT, he does answer the issue of goal scoring droughts! The man is flat out explosive and one of the best offensive players in the game. Anytime you can add a guy like that to your team you have to give it a strong consideration.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:40 AM

This has been nerves central here over Kovalchuk.
Two years ago Lou was so close to getting Marian Hossa from Atlanta and had the deal on the table, but then all of a sudden Pittsburgh came in and swooped away Hossa from Lou and the Devils.

This time around I believe Lou will get his man this time in Ilya Kovalchuk. I really believe Kovalchuk is coming to New Jersey and there has been a lot of good rumors and rumblings around the Prudential Center the last couple of days from people I have spoke too there. Lou knows the window of oppurtunity for Brodeur is closing and he realizes we have a good team this season that can win it all with the right piece here and there. Lou maybe hearing some of the players on this including Brodeur on going after Kovalchuk. If maybe Kovalchuk is only a rental and they give up players like Oduya, Bergfors, Palmieri and a #1 pick and the Devils go onto win their 4th SCC, it will have been well worth it. If that 4th SCC does not happen and Kovalchuk goes elsewhere in the off season then the Devils still have good young players in Lowell for the near future then to worry about losing Bergfors, Oduya and Palmieri in that trade.

So I am all for this in Lou going for it this season. This has been needed for sometime on this Devils team and haven't had this in over 5-years. Also Lou knows even when Paul martin comes back he has to go out and make a deal for a top defenseman that can QB the PP and play some defense infront of Brodeur.

I strongly feel the Devils will be the ones to get Kovalchuk by this weekend. Lou will not lose this time around. If he does, then it would be really disappointing.



WHAT??? Gutting the team (Oduya, Bergsfor, Plamieri AND a #1) for a rental is stupid. If Marty is burnt out by April and we lose in the first round, you have just sacrificed the future of the franchise for nothing.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:40 AM

Its weird seeing the Devils in a trade rumor poll on NHL.com. Especially for a guy like Kovalchuk, but I get the feeling that Sather might be attempting to do something stupid.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:41 AM

Maybe Kovalchoke is a smokescreen and its actually for Todd White or Tobias Enstrom, which I think would be better acquisitions for us anyway (again depending on what we are giving up). I hope this is the case. Maybe the Kings get Kovlachoke and we are part of a three way deal.


I don't know much about Todd White but keep hearing his name get tossed around. Is he really all that good? A quick look at his numbers makes him look like a smaller Zubrus.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:42 AM

I Don't now if this is new but Andy Greene out of practice today,
http://blogs.northje.../blogs/fireice/

Could just be flu bug good to see Patty back in Practice

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:42 AM

For those people who think Lou wouldn't make this deal because it's not a "Lou type of trade"- remember: Lou has a boss. And it's possible Vanderbeek has had enough of this sh!t and has told Lou to get it done. Just something to think about.



BINGO! +1.

Things are changing and I believe Vanderbeek is involved in this Kovalchuk trade. Lou knows over the years it has just not worked on being frugal. It's time that he opens his eyes.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:47 AM

WHAT??? Gutting the team (Oduya, Bergsfor, Plamieri AND a #1) for a rental is stupid. If Marty is burnt out by April and we lose in the first round, you have just sacrificed the future of the franchise for nothing.

You think trading Oduya, Bergfors, Palmieri, and our late 1st round pick for one of the top 5 players in the game is sacrificng the future of the organization? Really? Because if we got Kovalchuk for that package, I'd throw a fvcking all-night kegger.
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