He did sign a 1-yr deal. He will become a UFA next July. And if the Floppy one really does retire, he'll probably get a nice chunk of Floppy's current $$$ if he stays in Colorado.If he's taking that amount to try to win the cup, then I get it, but why can;t he sign a 1 year deal, wouldn;t that make him a UFA????
Something sounds fishy to me!!
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Red after this season, who knows whether there will be the same rules regarding free agency with the new CBA.(If there is one.)If he's taking that amount to try to win the cup, then I get it, but why can;t he sign a 1 year deal, wouldn;t that make him a UFA????
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Rock the 1.2mil just sounds crazy, seems to me he should be getting the biggest contract possible, becuase after this season the cap will end any of the ridiculous spending....
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So, I am in california...Can I watch the news conference?
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 02:01 PM
I think it's the right move.
I don't think Kariya wants a huge payday, but rather he wants longterm security, which he isn't going to get this year. If he signs for 5-8 million this year, he won't be UFA and would have to play out that contract until he became UFA, which would be, barring no labor stoppage, July 1, 2006. That's three more years of being RFA, being subject to arbitration and that hassle.
He gets to play with Selanne, too, and then he gets a payday with longterm security afterwards. And Rock, I imagine all the new free agency rules will have grandfather clauses for at least a year...meaning Kariya will still be able to pull this off.
It's really a win-win situation for Kariya, he gets a chance for the Cup and to play with the player he had the most success with, then longterm contract somewhere else to probably finish out his career.
I don't think Kariya wants a huge payday, but rather he wants longterm security, which he isn't going to get this year. If he signs for 5-8 million this year, he won't be UFA and would have to play out that contract until he became UFA, which would be, barring no labor stoppage, July 1, 2006. That's three more years of being RFA, being subject to arbitration and that hassle.
He gets to play with Selanne, too, and then he gets a payday with longterm security afterwards. And Rock, I imagine all the new free agency rules will have grandfather clauses for at least a year...meaning Kariya will still be able to pull this off.
It's really a win-win situation for Kariya, he gets a chance for the Cup and to play with the player he had the most success with, then longterm contract somewhere else to probably finish out his career.
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 02:09 PM
I like that guy on the uck board who tried to rationalize things by saying, "we still have the best goalie in the NHL." 
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 02:11 PM
3 things wrong with that sentence.
#1: He is a RFA looking for like a 110% increase.
#2: A little thing called Goalie Equipment Restrictions.
#3: He isn't the best goalie in the league.
#1: He is a RFA looking for like a 110% increase.
#2: A little thing called Goalie Equipment Restrictions.
#3: He isn't the best goalie in the league.
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 02:31 PM
#1 I'm sure he's looking for WAY more that 110%.3 things wrong with that sentence.
#1: He is a RFA looking for like a 110% increase.
#2: A little thing called Goalie Equipment Restrictions.
#3: He isn't the best goalie in the league.
#2 This is somewhat bullsh!t, larger pads never helped Snow.
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A one year deal for $1.2 million??
I'm going to be glued to ESPN news for this news conference in 15 minutes.
Good thing I took a day off today.
I'd like to see Kariya rationalize this.
I'm going to be glued to ESPN news for this news conference in 15 minutes.
Good thing I took a day off today.
I'd like to see Kariya rationalize this.
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My thoughts -- sorry if they overlap others. I don't have the time to read through 12 pages of thoughts right now. 
Kariya-Sakic-Selanne is a frightening line, but they do still lack a solid goaltender and their defense is suspect right about now. I could see them trying to swing a deal for a goaltender involving Tanguay and a role player like Messier plus a prospect -- looks like Phoenix is the major frontrunner in that race. And if they sign Leech, I'll be furious.
Kariya did end up playing with Selanne after all -- just in a different sweater.
As far as the Ducks are concerned, I think if they signed Whitney he'd be the perfect straight-up replacement for Kariya. Both are smallish players that excel on the PP, though Kariya's a better overall player. If they could land Whitney and someone like Prospal, they'd be in better shape than this past year theoretically, I'd argue. Plus, now Rucchin can wear the C with pride, like he should have been doing for the past few years.
Kariya-Sakic-Selanne is a frightening line, but they do still lack a solid goaltender and their defense is suspect right about now. I could see them trying to swing a deal for a goaltender involving Tanguay and a role player like Messier plus a prospect -- looks like Phoenix is the major frontrunner in that race. And if they sign Leech, I'll be furious.
Kariya did end up playing with Selanne after all -- just in a different sweater.
As far as the Ducks are concerned, I think if they signed Whitney he'd be the perfect straight-up replacement for Kariya. Both are smallish players that excel on the PP, though Kariya's a better overall player. If they could land Whitney and someone like Prospal, they'd be in better shape than this past year theoretically, I'd argue. Plus, now Rucchin can wear the C with pride, like he should have been doing for the past few years.
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After 12 pages what was this thread about?? 
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I'm still in shock by this. Anyway, since they took less money, that should free up some room for the Avs to get a goalie (Potvin). Or possibly, they could make a trade for Cujo or Hasek.
It definitely sets up another move.
It definitely sets up another move.
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No way Holland trade either one of his goalies to the Avs, not a chance. He isn't a dumb man, he knows he will have to compet with them. But giving them 1 of those goalies, really does give the Avs the clear advantage.
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 09:06 PM
Exactly, NJay.No way Holland trade either one of his goalies to the Avs, not a chance. He isn't a dumb man, he knows he will have to compet with them. But giving them 1 of those goalies, really does give the Avs the clear advantage.
There's no way the Wings will deal with the Avs.
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