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Posted 07 July 2003 - 09:27 PM

Yeah, I would like to see the link...please...thanks!
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Posted 07 July 2003 - 10:09 PM

Something funky going on here...doesn't sound right but I could be wrong.....no doubt the coroner was already paid off or threatened.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 11:18 AM

[quote name='MaddDog' date='Jul 7 2003, 06:00 PM']I was sort of wondering what Dew did - was it an legitimate suicide, or a homicide MADE TO LOOK LIKE a suicide? It seemed a bit odd of him to be killing himself when he's on vacation with him mom and sister, no less :( . Either way, it's way too tragic and sad.

(I do realize anyone can pretty much commit suicide whenever they want, just don't know how many people elect to do so outside the country on a trip is all..... and god knows there's so much Russian mob/mafia sh**, it makes me wonder).


I echo the same sentiments. When I heard the news, I was shocked :( . Lyashenko was on vacation and had his whole life ahead of him. I just can't believe he'd kill himself. It doesn't make sense. And with the history of the Russian mafia, it wouldn't surprise me if they were involved and made it look like suicide :saddevil: .

My sympathy is with Roman's family. R.I.P.

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 11:52 AM

I echo the same sentiments. When I heard the news, I was shocked :( . Lyashenko was on vacation and had his whole life ahead of him. I just can't believe he'd kill himself. It doesn't make sense. And with the history of the Russian mafia, it wouldn't surprise me if they were involved and made it look like suicide :saddevil: .

Well, I am not saying suicide can't occur among people who seem "fine" on the outside. One of my high school classmates shot himself in the head and killed himself our senior year (just so happened to be the day BEFORE my 17th birthday, AND was the guy that one of my best friends had had a crush on since 6th grade :( so you can imagine how much I was celebrating that year). Anyway, although I didn't exactly hang out with him in social settings, he seemed OK IN classes and I had no clue the guy was suicidal! Many times they just keep their feelings/distress covert (hidden), so their family/friends may not realize just how despondent the person is. I just found it odd that Roman would kill himself on VACATION IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, and that is why I'm starting to wonder if there's any Russian mob connection.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 12:00 PM

I agree with the idea that there could have been an alternative motive here to make it look like a suicide, Derek, but I won't stop for a minute and think that 'he seems like his whole life is ahead of him...why would he kill himself?' ...it doesn't work that way (all the time), and it's maybe naive to think that way. It's kind of ironic that I did a paper/project/PSA on suicide earlier this year and my main point highlighted (seems to be fitting here) was that suicide doesn't discriminate. You just never know.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 02:31 PM

I find it very difficult to accept that an athlete would use a belt to hang himself...a BELT from his trousers...um excuse me...what did he dew? Put a nail thru one of the holes, buckle it around his neck and jump off the bathtub wall????? :blink:
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 02:33 PM

I don't believe it at all, either, Dew. Not at all.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 02:38 PM

The whole thing seems way too suspicious...this will not be the last we hear of this.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 02:40 PM

I dunno...does the media really take us all for a bunch of dolts? :blink:
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 02:58 PM

I find it very difficult to accept that an athlete would use a belt to hang himself...a BELT from his trousers...um excuse me...what did he dew? Put a nail thru one of the holes, buckle it around his neck and jump off the bathtub wall????? :blink:

Why is that difficult to accept he would use a belt? He loops one end of the belt around his neck, and the other around a pipe, loop, or something on the ceiling. If it's in the bathroom, perhaps the shower curtain rod was strong enough. I'm sure it's possible though.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:04 PM

It's possible that it may have been by accident. In college, a guy in the dorm that my best friend was the RA for saw a segment on some show about the sexual thrill you experience when you're being choked or strangled. Well, his girlfreind didn't want to play along, so he tried it himself and accidently hung himself in his closet using a belt. Apparently, he passed out right away and that was it.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:07 PM

I've heard that kind of thing happen before, M. Apparently it hightens the experience, but people get caught up and end up killing themselves by just strangling/choking themselves for too long.

Hefty price to pay for pleasure, I suppose.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:09 PM

It's possible that it may have been by accident. In college, a guy in the dorm that my best friend was the RA for saw a segment on some show about the sexual thrill you experience when you're being choked or strangled. Well, his girlfreind didn't want to play along, so he tried it himself and accidently hung himself in his closet using a belt. Apparently, he passed out right away and that was it.

My friend did the same thing...his parents found him hanging in the garage with his pants around his ankles. :( It was the first reality check in my life.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:46 PM

Unfortunately, it's not an unusual occurence, but he's with his Mom & sister on vacation - just doesn't sound right to me.
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 05:28 PM

Michael Hutchence (lead singer of INXS) died that way.

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 06:38 PM

I find it very difficult to accept that an athlete would use a belt to hang himself...a BELT from his trousers...um excuse me...what did he dew?  Put a nail thru one of the holes, buckle it around his neck and jump off the bathtub wall????? :blink:

Why is that difficult to accept he would use a belt? He loops one end of the belt around his neck, and the other around a pipe, loop, or something on the ceiling. If it's in the bathroom, perhaps the shower curtain rod was strong enough. I'm sure it's possible though.

A knot that tight to hold him up??? I dunno...maybe but I gots me doubts :unsure:
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 06:40 PM

It's possible that it may have been by accident. In college, a guy in the dorm that my best friend was the RA for saw a segment on some show about the sexual thrill you experience when you're being choked or strangled. Well, his girlfreind didn't want to play along, so he tried it himself and accidently hung himself in his closet using a belt. Apparently, he passed out right away and that was it.

Hands not good enough??? OK...I am out of this conspiracy theory stuff :huh:
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 07:26 PM

[quote name='MaddDog' date='Jul 8 2003, 12:52 PM']Well, I am not saying suicide can't occur among people who seem "fine" on the outside. One of my high school classmates shot himself in the head and killed himself our senior year (just so happened to be the day BEFORE my 17th birthday, AND was the guy that one of my best friends had had a crush on since 6th grade :( so you can imagine how much I was celebrating that year). Anyway, although I didn't exactly hang out with him in social settings, he seemed OK IN classes and I had no clue the guy was suicidal! Many times they just keep their feelings/distress covert (hidden), so their family/friends may not realize just how despondent the person is. I just found it odd that Roman would kill himself on VACATION IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, and that is why I'm starting to wonder if there's any Russian mob connection.


That's really terrible MaddDog. Must have put a damper on things :( .

Hypothetically speaking, anyone is capable of committing suicide. And I would agree with you that anyone who was contemplating those thoughts wouldn't say too much to people who knew them.

I had heard Roman wasn't happy playing in Hartford this past year. But he had a good season there and I don't think he would kill himself over that.

Just the way they found him makes me skeptical. Hung by a belt :evilcry: ??? Ugh.

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