With Hasek coming back to the Red Wings they must get rid of a goalie. Curtis Joseph would be the choice I guess.
The Red Wings signed Joseph for $24 million over 3 years with a NO TRADE CLAUSE late last summer. That's an interesting financial/player trade problem
Should be an interesting trade. The AVS need a goalie to round out their talent.
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Started by GetReal, Jul 09 2003 09:05 AM
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 09:08 AM
I brought up the same suggestion in another thread. We know Detroit wouldn't trade Joseph straight to the Avs...it would never happen. The only way I see a deal transpiring is through a three way deal. However, I do believe there is a very good chance of that happening.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 09:17 AM
The whole reason the Wings stupidly qualified Hasek was to prevent him from going to the Avs.
I can't see them making a three-way deal. They will try to get a straight-up deal if it is at all possible.
And if I'm Cujo, I say F you to the Wings and don't allow myself to be dealt until March. The whole reason they gave him the no-trade clause was to ensure he wouldn't be run out of town by another goalie, now they're going back on their contract.
I can't see them making a three-way deal. They will try to get a straight-up deal if it is at all possible.
And if I'm Cujo, I say F you to the Wings and don't allow myself to be dealt until March. The whole reason they gave him the no-trade clause was to ensure he wouldn't be run out of town by another goalie, now they're going back on their contract.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 09:36 AM
it would be funny if Cujo justs sits as a back-up making buckets of money with the wings.
the wings would probably pay a bonus to cujo for him to wave his clause, then trade to Rangers for Lindros. This evens out the payroll problem and solves the center problem for Wings and the goalie problem for rangers. It also keeps cujo from the avs.
and everyone knows the rangers STILL won't make the playoffs next year.
the wings would probably pay a bonus to cujo for him to wave his clause, then trade to Rangers for Lindros. This evens out the payroll problem and solves the center problem for Wings and the goalie problem for rangers. It also keeps cujo from the avs.
and everyone knows the rangers STILL won't make the playoffs next year.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 09:44 AM
That's EXACTLY what he should do and force the Wings to trade/scratch Legace. The Wings got themselves into this problem, and now they should pay for it.it would be funny if Cujo justs sits as a back-up making buckets of money with the wings.
Either that or waive his no-trade clause only for teams that he knows don't want him or can't afford him.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 11:26 AM
Trade CuJo for Kariya 
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 11:29 AM
But how bad would it be for Joseph if the Wongs won the cup? If he took this route I don't imagine Detroit would EVER put him in just to keep his name off it. No, that's NOT what CuJo should or will do.That's EXACTLY what he should do and force the Wings to trade/scratch Legace. The Wings got themselves into this problem, and now they should pay for it.it would be funny if Cujo justs sits as a back-up making buckets of money with the wings.
Either that or waive his no-trade clause only for teams that he knows don't want him or can't afford him.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 11:37 AM
Joseph is too proud of a person not to waive his no trade clause...he wants to play.
If a deal comes along, he'll waive it.
If a deal comes along, he'll waive it.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 11:41 AM
All they need to do is throw a couple of million his way plus the original contract or better and he goes. He's in the drivers seat, I think.
Red Wings won't go with all three and 8 million is a little steep for a backup goalie.
Red Wings won't go with all three and 8 million is a little steep for a backup goalie.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 12:01 PM
It would look about as bad as it did when he sat on the bench and won the Gold Medal. He'll be known in hockey history as the best goalie to ride the pine to glory!But how bad would it be for Joseph if the Wongs won the cup? If he took this route I don't imagine Detroit would EVER put him in just to keep his name off it. No, that's NOT what CuJo should or will do.That's EXACTLY what he should do and force the Wings to trade/scratch Legace. The Wings got themselves into this problem, and now they should pay for it.it would be funny if Cujo justs sits as a back-up making buckets of money with the wings.
Either that or waive his no-trade clause only for teams that he knows don't want him or can't afford him.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 12:52 PM
At least he played in 1 game. Belfour got a Gold just for being there.It would look about as bad as it did when he sat on the bench and won the Gold Medal. He'll be known in hockey history as the best goalie to ride the pine to glory!
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 01:11 PM
True...but I wouldn't call that "playing" in the one game he started.At least he played in 1 game. Belfour got a Gold just for being there.
It would look about as bad as it did when he sat on the bench and won the Gold Medal. He'll be known in hockey history as the best goalie to ride the pine to glory!
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 01:15 PM
woo hoo! I'm an Assistant Coach now! Just call me John MacLean. 
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 01:17 PM
John MacLean.woo hoo! I'm an Assistant Coach now! Just call me John MacLean.
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 01:19 PM
Thank you.
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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"He has no ego," says Lou Lamoriello, general manager of the New Jersey Devils. "I don't think he has a selfish bone in his body. It gets infectious with people around him, but that's Joe. Having him here was something very special."
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And the simple truth is this -- before and after Joe Nieuwendyk, this franchise has not been as good. Yes the same could be said for others, but Nieuwendyk's effect on his team, on his team's best players, on the fans and in the community can only be compared to, well, what Jarome Iginla is doing now in Calgary. Ralph Strangis, dallasstars.com
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Posted 09 July 2003 - 01:19 PM
No problem! 
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