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#41 MantaRay

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:44 PM

Idiot you are.


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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:56 PM

Sign Kovalchuk for 9 million a year after all he is god
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 02:03 PM

Sign Kovalchuk for 9 million a year after all he is god



4 Goals on 32 PP chances???? If only we had a natural goal scorer like Atlanta's Kovalachuk our team would be unstoppable.
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 05:22 PM

:pray:

Not worth the money he's going to command. The experiment failed, it's time to move on. He doesn't fit here, and I don't believe he ever would.

You may want to blame the coach for line shuffling and not enabling Kovalchuk to find a rhythm with linemates, fine. You can make the argument.

I don't want him here. His focus is fleeting and he has spells of lazy and careless play. Ability in spades, but it's just not good enough IMO.


It was a simple case of Ferrari parts in a Buick car. Kovy is so much more skilled than our guys. Other than Elias and Zubrus up front, no forward could match his dynamics in the offensive scheme. It's that simple.

Upgrade the other parts, and Kovy fits right in...

Wishful thinking however...
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 06:10 PM

Awesome is way way way too strong. He was decent until Game 5 where he no-showed too just like everyone else.

I mean he had a point per game but he never was dominant for any big stretch, hell he never even had a two-goal game with us. A lot of secondary assists may look great on the stat sheet but they don't convince me it's worth exploring bringing him back for what he'll command on the open market.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 01:26 AM

Correction to thread title:

"Kovalchuk is awesome, and will continue to be awesome, in Devils red"

I seriously think lou will resign, and let martin walk. Martin did little, to nothing, after his return to the devils. He wasn't missed all that much. Kovi will keep this offense in tip-top shape, and if lou can somehow bury rolston, picking up a top-4 d-man is hardly all that difficult.

Edited by Devsfan118, 24 April 2010 - 01:27 AM.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:16 AM

He was and he will still be awesome with us next year!
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:54 AM

I seriously think lou will resign, and let martin walk. Martin did little, to nothing, after his return to the devils. He wasn't missed all that much.


Reading between the lines it looks like that's what he wants to do (probably a combination of talent and marketing) but who says Kovy wants to come back? There are other teams far closer to winning than us who will pay him a decent wage and there are other teams who will pay him far more than us.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 11:04 AM

I don't agree with those that say this team was worse off after he arrived. I think some of us are forgetting just how poorly the Devils were playing for about a good month before he arrived. This team was struggling big time to score goals and was just going off the rails. There is a reason why Lou pulled the trigger here.

Did the experiment go as well as planned? No, but then again it only lasted about 2 months. Keep in mind he was in Atlanta for 8 years. This was not some small transition for him. Kovalchuk is a a great individual talent and if he seems like he doesn't fit, well you make him fit. Players of his skill set don't just grow on trees. Within the right system and surrounded by the players that will compliment his talents, he'll be a very successful player.

He has tremendous skill, appears to have a great attitude and he works hard. All the ingredients are there for success. Unless the Devils start to sink to the bottom of he league anytime soon, this is the closest they'll be to a 1st pick for a very long time.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 12:35 PM

Reading between the lines it looks like that's what he wants to do (probably a combination of talent and marketing) but who says Kovy wants to come back? There are other teams far closer to winning than us who will pay him a decent wage and there are other teams who will pay him far more than us.


True point, but I think the mere fact that Lou has the first chance to speak with him is a HUGE advantage for us. If he was becoming a F/A from Atlanta, I'd say the devils had little to no chance of getting him. But since he's already been here for a few months, and Lou's got first 'dibbs' ....I'm likin our chances
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 03:16 PM

Make a concerted effort to re-sign him, but don't go overboard. I would take Kovy over Martin in a second (even though I was undecided a few months ago). Martin showed me absolutely nothing, and doesn't deserve to get paid like a top tier defenseman, but some team out there will.

I don't buy this "not fitting in" stuff. Unless you're a total dimwit, a good coach and team culture can make you fit in, so long as you're not a diva, which I saw no evidence of. Learning to play smart hockey is not like learning quantum physics.


You're right. Part of this was the coaching staff's fault. Kovalchuk was immediately given the reigns on the PP. For example, he played pretty much the entire part of the PP, and then, would take longer shifts sometimes at regular strength.

This threw off the balance of the team. Guys like Langs and Rolston found themselves with reduced ice time, and this was not accepted by certain players.

He was given the "golden boy" share at times, and since the Devils are not used to having "golden boys" other than Marty Brodeur, this became a problem.

Kovy, in my estimation, was resented (although not publicly) by many players in the room, which essentially threw off the balance.

Those guys need to go in order to make Kovy's tenure in NJ successful. Otherwise, all that Vanderbeek will win in the next few years are profits from jersey sales and ticket sales, but NO Stanley Cup.

Honestly, if we can't get a guy like Kovy to re-sign, I would like to see a player the likes of Jarome Iginla or Brad Richards in our lineup.
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