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#1 Martyisth3b3st

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:12 PM

Taking anything positive out of a season that includes nothing but a single playoff win is difficult to do. It kind of comes with the whole ‘being a Devils fan’ ordeal… we’re spoiled, bratty, and sometimes straight-up mean. And, instead of refuting any of that, I’ll admit that the write-up I’m about to submit will sound a lot more like “Langenbrunner” than “Parise”, if you get catch drift.

Again, it’s hard to take a lot out of the season that has made a positive impact on the franchise: which seems silly when it’s noted that this team finished in 2nd place in the Eastern Conference, winning the division that featured the defending Stanley Cup Champions and three playoff teams (and a fourth that missed it by that much). But that’s just what happens when you get into the groove of being a Devils fan: you chant “Rangers suck!” when we’re playing a Wednesday night game against Anaheim, you sing about Scott Gomez’s sexual orientation while waiting for the Devils and Sabres to take the ice for the shootout, you yell “shoot!” whenever we have control of the puck on a PSE&G powerplay, and you expect nothing less than that big old silver thing.

But this isn’t about those fans, that’s for a different time in a different place. The fact of the matter is, the season is over. As ugly as it started (home loss to Philly), it ended. There were ups, Parise’s awesome showing in the Olympics, the Devils trading for that freaking AMAZING player that we all needed: Skoula, Brodeur breaking another record (though that’s becoming an annual event), and the playoff emergence of Zubrus. But, damn, there were downs. The slow, sloppy start, the injury to Martin, the cold streak in the middle of the season where it seemed like we went 2 and a half years without a victory, Lou having a serious issue with a jar of jelly, and of course the no-show at home to end what was a very promising year with a very promising team.

And, as we do every year, we need to watch as Lou does everything he can to make this team better. It starts with coaching, and I’m thanking the good Lord that he made the first big move of the off-season in seemingly forcing retirement upon Frenchie Lemaire. So, to segway into my off-season plan, we’ll start at coaching.

Here are some of the names being tossed around;
-MacLean
-Stevens
-Tremblay
-Renny
-McTavish
-Tocchet
-Hitchcock
-Haviland
-Carbonneau
-Nolan

My pick is Haviland. The NHL Assistant Coach of the Year (as voted by NHL-Fanhouse), Haviland is a current Blackhawks assistant after spending the last three years as the head coach of the organization’s AHL. The homegrown, Middletown, N.J., native has never once missed the playoffs during his seven-year minor league coaching career. His youth (41 years old) brings energy to the team, and I really don’t want to dig up an old guy (see Lemaire, Jacques).

Now, let’s work out the players. I’ll preface this entire segment with one sentence: this is a plan that I think makes sense, not a plan that I predict will come to fruition.

First off, the goners. Here’s the list of people that I am glad to see go via retirement or free agency:

Rob Niedermayer
Jay Pandolfo (retirement)
Dean McAmmond
Mike Mottau
Yann Danis

The first order of business after bidding ‘adieu’ to the list above is getting rid of that Rolston contract. Again, I know it’s going to be really difficult… but I think it’s possible. A guy I look at, an ex-teammate of Kovalchuk, is Nik Antropov from Atlanta. He’s got the size (6’6” 240) and the scoring ability (24+ goals the past 3 years) we need. His contract (4m/y) isn’t scaring me away, especially if he keeps those numbers up. Obviously, we would need to send more their way, but getting a nice big body to play center fills a very large need.

Devils trade Rolston, Eckford, 2nd round pick in 2011 for Nik Antropov.

The Antropov/Rolston swap saves a good 1m in cap space for the year and addresses an enormous issue. Eckford is certainly painful to deal, but in case anyone hasn’t noticed, Martin Brodeur isn’t getting any younger. This team is in a win-now mode.

Now, before I go anywhere else, the biggest move of the offseason is made right here:

Devils re-sign Kovalchuk, 7/56.

Enormous investment? Yeah. Overpaid? Probably. Worth it? 110%. The guy is one of the 5 or 6 best pure scorers in hockey. He bought into our system, and Lou absolutely loves the kid. The scary thing is, he’s just getting better. A combination of Parise/Kovalchuk for the next 7 years is so scary to think about.

Paul Martin is the other goal this off-season. It’s going to be tough, but I can see a deal somewhere around 5m/year. Yeah, he’s overpaid… but that’s the definition of a ‘UFA signing’.

Devils re-sign Martin, 5/20.

Right now, let’s take a step back and see what we’re looking at.
Zach Parise (3.125) - Travis Zajac (3.9) – Langenbrunner (2.9)
Ilya Kovalchuk (8.5) – Nik Antropov (4.0) - Patrik Elias (6)
Vladimir Zharkov (0.850) – xxxxxx (???) – Dainius Zubrus (3.4)
Matt Halischuk (0.875) -- Rod Pelley (0.75) -- Nick Palmieri (0.816)

White (3.0) Martin (5.0)
Salvador (2.9) Greene (.750)
Corrente (.821) xxxxx (???)

Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)

From that list above, our cap situation is at $53.3m, giving us $3.4m to work with. Again, in my perfect little world, the Devils have every intention on spending right up to the cap. Addressing the 3rd line center role, via free agency, one guy comes to mind. I’m not reaching into any magic hats for this one- his name has been thrown around quite a bit.

Devils sign Eric Belanger, 2/4

This guy’s a grizzly vet, perfect for our third line. Even though he’s never made it out of the second round in the playoffs, he brings leadership and is a perfect plug until Josefson is ready to play with the big boys.

Now comes the final detail. The Devs are in need of a serious wakeup call, and nixing the captain is a great way to shake things up. I love Pitkanen from Carolina. Both players would enter the season in the last year of their contract, Carolina’s offensive depth isn’t really much to write home about, and Langenbrunner+ for Pitkanen could make sense for both sides.

Devils trade Langenbrunner, Gelinas to Carolina for Pitkanen.


Zach Parise (3.125) - Travis Zajac (3.9) – Dainius Zubrus (3.4)
Ilya Kovalchuk (8) – Nik Antropov (4.0) - Patrik Elias (6)
Vladimir Zharkov (0.850) – Eric Belanger (2.0) – Nick Palmieri (0.816)
Matt Halischuk (0.875) -- Rod Pelley (0.75) – Leblond (.5)

Pitkanen (4.0) Martin (5.0)
Salvador (2.9) Greene (.750)
Corrente (.821) White (3.0)

Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)
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56.4m
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:31 PM

Pitkanen (4.0) Martin (5.0)
Salvador (2.9) Greene (.750)
Corrente (.821) White (3.0)
Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)
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56.4m


I thought you kept skoula in?
Maclean or haviland that is the question.
I realy appreciate you take your time for in my opinion a VERy interesting plan.
I agree on adding antropov but you give too much IMO.

But seriously thanks for the interesting thread.
You should seriously send this to LL ;)

Edited by Devs3cups, 01 May 2010 - 08:35 PM.

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:34 PM

Skoula(2.5)


Why would almost have to triple his salary to get him to stay?
He was making like .960 M this year wasn't he?
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:38 PM

Why would almost have to triple his salary to get him to stay?
He was making like .960 M this year wasn't he?

Oh sorry, I thought he was making like 1.5 mil.he was making .575!

1.3 mil MAX!

Thanks for the warning call CRASHER.

Edited by Devs3cups, 01 May 2010 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:55 PM

Very good plan MB.

Personally I'd give more the needed to get get Langenbrunner and Rolston off our hands.
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:08 PM

Antropov was, oustide of Kovalchuk, Atlanta's best player last season. Why are they trading him at all, let alone taking Rolston back in the deal? If Rolston is moved, nothing of value is coming back. Realistically, it's probably going to have to be something along the Lines of Rolston + 2011 #1, or Tedenby/Josefson for garbage/filler and a mid round pick.

Edited by Patches O'Houlihan, 01 May 2010 - 09:17 PM.

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:13 PM

What happened to Clarkson?
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 10:36 PM

and you expect nothing less than that big old silver thing.

a golf club?

The first order of business after bidding ‘adieu’ to the list above is getting rid of that Rolston contract. Again, I know it’s going to be really difficult… but I think it’s possible. A guy I look at, an ex-teammate of Kovalchuk, is Nik Antropov from Atlanta. He’s got the size (6’6” 240) and the scoring ability (24+ goals the past 3 years) we need. His contract (4m/y) isn’t scaring me away, especially if he keeps those numbers up. Obviously, we would need to send more their way, but getting a nice big body to play center fills a very large need.

Devils trade Rolston, Eckford, 2nd round pick in 2011 for Nik Antropov.

The Antropov/Rolston swap saves a good 1m in cap space for the year and addresses an enormous issue. Eckford is certainly painful to deal, but in case anyone hasn’t noticed, Martin Brodeur isn’t getting any younger. This team is in a win-now mode.

Although I don't like the idea of bringing Atlanta here. Antropov is a good player and he is a big guy. However, Atl isn't rebuilding and I don't think they'd trade Antropov. To be honest I think Koivu would be a better center for Kovy.

Edited by ben00rs, 01 May 2010 - 10:42 PM.

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 10:38 PM

decent work MB. this proves my point in the middle of the season when you got into a pissing match with some other poster (might have been triumph) and i said it was nonsense because you weren't a dummy. this post clearly shows it.

that being said, some others have already brought up a couple things missing:

clarkson? where is he here?

the rolston for antropov swap just doesn't make sense for atlanta and rolston would nix the deal anyway. i've said that he would waive that NTC but it's going to have to be to a team he's interested in going to. i'd put that list at:

anaheim
la
minny
pittsburgh
washington
rangers
islanders (maybe)
colorado
toronto

the langenbrunner swap is an interesting one and i'd be ok with it.

haviland would also be fine - just as i'd be ok w/ johnny mac.

appreciate the effort.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:47 AM

Lots of word but leaving out Clarkson and to think that Atlanta would accept Rolston and would swap Antropov deletes the credibility of your lengthy words. Send money, it will take more than $10. A GM you are not.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:59 AM

I think the trade for Antropov is a little weak the way it stands. However, adding Clarkson to that deal makes it look a lot bettter and it works out very nice since he isn't listed in this lineup.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 10:41 AM

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, first of all. Stuff like this is pretty much all that keeps Hell going in the off-season.

As others have brought up, there's no way that Atlanta trades Antropov, having just signed him last year in the off-season and watching him develop into their most consistent player. It's funny, because I doubt many were advocating for Antropov to come here last summer (too lazy to go back and look). Anyway, Atlanta's not looking to rebuild and take on dead weight like they used to; they actually seem like they want to continue to compete. Obviously losing Kovalchuk set that back a bit, but that team showed heart after the trade and kept fighting; they lost a lot of 1-goal games, something that can be attributed to their youth and inexperience.

And yeah, leaving Clarkson out is a bit difficult to handle.

I'm also not sold on Carolina wanting to trade Pitkanen after he seemed to single-handedly keep them in games with his PP work. Plus, if they trade him, the only defensemen they have under contract are Tim Gleason and Jamie McBain. I'd much rather see the Devils try and pry Gleason away from Carolina, but that's not happening. McBain looks like he could be a PP specialist, but I doubt they want to turn over the reigns to him this quickly. If they traded Pitkanen, they'd have Gleason & McBain, plus Brett Carson & Alexandre Picard on the books - not exactly a solid defense. Then they'd have to hit the UFA market, and it's slim pickings this year, as we've already discussed. I don't think they would see the value in trading Pitkanen unless they got an established NHL defender in return -- and they'd be looking at Andy Greene.

All that being said, I like the idea of signing Belanger to take the 3rd line role, and getting $2m per would represent a raise from his salary this year. Pandolfo retiring would help, too.

Honestly, my biggest preference for the Devils this off-season is to try and bolster the defense and get a second line center. Maybe it's just me, but I'd be fine with them passing on Kovalchuk if they added balance to the offense... we still have two great LWs in Parise and Elias, and after this season of Elias-as-a-center, I'm convinced he has to play his natural position in order to be his best. Getting a second line center and a complementary scorer (possibly for the 2nd line RW if Langenbrunner can't rebound and provided Zubrus is on the first line) would, I think, help this team much more offensively than signing Kovalchuk. Gaborik proved a lot of people wrong this year with the Rangers when they asked who he would play with, but Kovalchuk just didn't click with anyone - over 30 games - and that's a flag to me.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 11:08 AM

Can Frazee be thrown in as backup for next season? Where do Salmela, Halischuk fit in for next season's plans?
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 12:04 PM

Can Frazee be thrown in as backup for next season? Where do Salmela, Halischuk fit in for next season's plans?


Frazee got outplayed by McKenna this year. McKenna was offered an NHL contract around mid-season. My guess is McKenna gets a shot at backup and Frazee gets another year in the AHL.

Lou likes Salmela, and I think he has a Johnny Oduya-ness to him. I could see him on the big roster. With Pando pretty much gone, I guess Halischuk could fight Zharkov and Vasyunov for a spot. Maybe even Davis.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 01:02 PM

Good offseason plan MB. I do really like the thought of bringing Antropov here but I couldnt see that trade happening. The player I was thinkin of bringing in to fill the 2nd line Center was Saku Koivu. The guy is a pretty good playmaker, hes responsible defensively, and wont be asking for too much money. I think the Devils could get him for 2.5m Also 5m for Martin is overpaid. Unfortunently he will get overpaid no matter what. I was thinkin instead of resigning Martin for 5 we could try for Gonchar for 5m. Gonchar for 5m would seem worth it more than Martin for 5m.

I was thinking our team could look like this next year:

Zach Parise (3.125) - Travis Zajac (3.9) – Langenbrunner (2.9)
Ilya Kovalchuk (8) – Saku Koivu (2) - Patrik Elias (5)
Matt Halischuk (0.875) – Dainius Zubrus (3.4) - David Clarkson (1.5)
Brian Rolston (5) - Rod Pelley (0.75) - Vladimir Zharkov (0.850)

Sergei Gonchar (5.5) - Bryce Salvador (2.9)
Colin White (3) - Andy Greene (.750)
Martin Skoula (.750) - Mark Fraser (.750)

Martin Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)

56.6

Elias's contract goes down to 5m starting this season, and even though it would be great to move Rolston i cant see it happening.

Also MB i think you sat in front of me this season. I sat in 230-row-3-seats 9-12.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 01:21 PM

As is the case with all of these offseason threads, people are way too optimistic about the ability to unload Rolston. Again, you have to ask yourself, if you were the GM of another team, why on earth would you give up anything of value for Rolston, even if he didn't have a NMC? Besides helping a young team get to the salary floor, he would contribute nothing to your team. He isn't a locker room cancer, but at the same time he isn't a locker room guy either. He's an overpriced body. That's it.

The only way that's going to happen if there's a 2nd or 1st round pick going with him. If it's the difference between being able to put a good player on the roster (e.g. re-signing Kovy, or some solid blue-liner), then I could live with it.

ADDENDUM: I'll add that if I were a young team that could take on an overpriced player or two, I'd take Rosival or Drury before I'd take Rolston.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 01:39 PM

Good offseason plan MB. I do really like the thought of bringing Antropov here but I couldnt see that trade happening. The player I was thinkin of bringing in to fill the 2nd line Center was Saku Koivu. The guy is a pretty good playmaker, hes responsible defensively, and wont be asking for too much money. I think the Devils could get him for 2.5m Also 5m for Martin is overpaid. Unfortunently he will get overpaid no matter what. I was thinkin instead of resigning Martin for 5 we could try for Gonchar for 5m. Gonchar for 5m would seem worth it more than Martin for 5m.

I was thinking our team could look like this next year:

Zach Parise (3.125) - Travis Zajac (3.9) – Langenbrunner (2.9)
Ilya Kovalchuk (8) – Saku Koivu (2) - Patrik Elias (5)
Matt Halischuk (0.875) – Dainius Zubrus (3.4) - David Clarkson (1.5)
Brian Rolston (5) - Rod Pelley (0.75) - Vladimir Zharkov (0.850)

Sergei Gonchar (5.5) - Bryce Salvador (2.9)
Colin White (3) - Andy Greene (.750)
Martin Skoula (.750) - Mark Fraser (.750)

Martin Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)

56.6

Elias's contract goes down to 5m starting this season, and even though it would be great to move Rolston i cant see it happening.

Also MB i think you sat in front of me this season. I sat in 230-row-3-seats 9-12.

His salary goes down but the cap hit stays at 6. Since the lockout the money paid through the contract is averaged out and whatever the average is, is the cap hit
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 04:09 PM

You know, while I was planning all of this out it was supposed to be Rolston, Eckford, Clarkson and a 2nd for Antropov. I totally forgot to mention that. Again, the lines would be:

Zach Parise (3.125) - Travis Zajac (3.9) – Dainius Zubrus (3.4)
Ilya Kovalchuk (8) – Nik Antropov (4.0) - Patrik Elias (6)
Vladimir Zharkov (0.850) – Eric Belanger (2.0) – Nick Palmieri (0.816)
Matt Halischuk (0.875) -- Rod Pelley (0.75) – Leblond (.5)

Pitkanen (4.0) Martin (5.0)
Salvador (2.9) Greene (.750)
Corrente (.821) White (3.0)

Brodeur (5.2)
Backup (.500)
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now does that make more sense?
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 04:27 PM

The only problem I see MB is that Elias is a left winger.
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 04:44 PM

The only problem I see MB is that Elias is a left winger.

The difference between the left wing position and the right wing position for a line as skilled as Kovalchuk-Antropov-Elias shouldn't be considered an "issue". We're just LW heavy, for whatever reason. Arguably our 3 best players: Parise, Elias, and Kovalchuk, are all left wingers.
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