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#141 westcoastdevfan

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 06:47 PM

I haven't been around lately and I am taking a break from the board. Too busy lately (mostly getting autographs from nobodies like Bobby Hull and Jose Reyes, lol) Just thought I'd give my thoughts on this.

If you are a Avs fan, be a friggin Avs fan. You can follow another team but I see that it's hard to be a fan of more than one team if you actually care about one of the teams you like. If you swear you like all of those teams, you're just looking for backups for when your number 1 team fails.

SBT had no right to even negatively think about this board, forget about posting about it.

As far as Dr. Death? Who knows who he/she is. A Wild fan loving an Av fan? There's something wrong with that. When I was still talking to DD, I told him/her to cut it with the SBT sh!t. That's not being fond of someone, that's stalking.

I know they will read this and I am glad they will. Considering when I first came to the board, I probably talked to him the most, this kind of pisses me off a little more.

And damn right I'm a friggin good kid, lol. I'm done with the El Chico sh!t too, I'll think of something else by the time I come back.

Approximate date of return: Give me a week to chill

(Have to go to the Machester United game, AC Milan game, and even a Mets game, lol, I'm busy)

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 06:54 PM

Dew, backoff, don't speak on what you know nothing of....any disgruntled fan from another team thinks thats what happened, softens the blow from having to hear what a great team it was all the time....just because the Bruins are dedicated to losing doesn't mean Ray had to be, F*CK LOYALTY, especially when the Bruins broke their loyalty to Ray first....
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 07:09 PM

Sammy...weren't we the bad guys for calling out SBT on his AVs crap...we knew what he was from the get go...well I did but I am the oldster here ;)

Man I wish I could find the thread where he posted that his favorite team in the east was the Devs...will keep the search goin :blink:

Yep, I believe it was. That was before the truth was uncovered though. :D

Try the beginning of July...I think that's when he left. That IS when he joined LGA though. I remember him saying that too btw. Something about it being "as simple as that".
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 07:10 PM

I'm done with the El Chico sh!t too

As John Kelly would say: Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 07:54 PM

Dew, backoff, don't speak on what you know nothing of....any disgruntled fan from another team thinks thats what happened, softens the blow from having to hear what a great team it was all the time....just because the Bruins are dedicated to losing doesn't mean Ray had to be, F*CK LOYALTY, especially when the Bruins broke their loyalty to Ray first....

OK that's it, I swore I wouldn't get started on the whole Bourque thing, but now I have had my fill:

#1, you are an Avs fan, correct? Then please do NOT speak for us Bruins fans. I have lived and breathed the Bruins since my youth, and have lived here all my life. Ray made the decision to stay here out of loyalty... to his family. He did not want to move them, plus Beantown is 5 1/2 hours away from his hometown in Quebec.

#2, Ray told Harry Sinden to F off and hung up on him because he DID NOT want to go to Colorado. He wanted to go to Philly. End of story. That is fact.

#3, The B's NEVER broke their Loyalty to Ray. Ray knew after the 1990 finals they weren't ever going to win. Please, they traded Oates to shut him up after he commented on how the organization would never win anything. And this is the only time I will ever defend that bulbous nosed arse: Harry did not want to trade Ray, but when Ray asked for the trade, he obliged and also obliged Ray's wish to go to a SC contender. There were better offers to be had than what was offered at the time (only Rolston actually performed to potential, Pahlsson was traded to the Ducks for Nazarov, who was then turned into a 4th rounder) So essentially, Harry granted Ray's wish for Rolston, who at the time wasn't exactly the best return he could have gotten.

#4 Don't pick on Dew, because she is more on target than you want to believe. If he truly wanted to win a cup all those years, he would have left when he turned 31. She is right on target with how he was endeared by the Bruins and us fans. He DID turn his back on us, but he now gets to live with an emptiness that is his victory.... As Adam Oates said best: He may have a SC ring, but every time he looks at it, it will have the wrong team's name on it.

(sorry Dew, gotta correct ya on this one: The B's NEVER welcomed Ray home with the Cup. The City of Boston did, but the organization actually sternly warned current players about going, and the only current Bruin who showed up was Don Sweeney, and look what happened to him)

#5 Your organization should be ashamed that they retired #77 before #19, #33 #21. To retire a players number after 1 year and 1 month of service is an outrage.

And also, as much as I still truly love Ray for all he has done for the community here and for his 21 years as a Bruin, the Devils WERE the better team that year, and deserved to win.

ESPN had a love affair with the Avs that year, from Bourque right on to the Drury/Travis Roy fiasco. Yes, that's right, I said fiasco, because for anyone who was truly paying attention to it all, the team captain that fateful evening that Travis broke his neck was none other than current Devil Jay Pandolfo, who held his team together and carried Travis' practice jersey on to the ice EVERY SINGLE DAY. That takes more character, compassion and leadership than Drury could ever muster.
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:07 PM

Yeah but good old Pando isnt a marketable charecter like Drury. And hes a Devil so of course he wouldnt even have been interviewed for the piece.

Twisted Bourque's son is planning on attending BU correct? With the loss of Maiser to the CHL we need some scoring help as soon as can be gotten. Hell we need it last year.
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"Jay Pandolfo's last game at Boston University was against the Wolverines," Madden said. "My job was to cover his line. Jay had scored something like 30 goals in 30 games that season. And that was his 31st game. Guess what happened?"

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:10 PM

Yeah but good old Pando isnt a marketable charecter like Drury.   And hes a Devil so of course he wouldnt even have been interviewed for the piece.

Twisted Bourque's son is planning on attending BU correct?   With the loss of Maiser to the CHL we need some scoring help as soon as can be gotten.  Hell we need it last year.

Poor Pando, he gets such a bad rap..... he's the Rodney Dangerfield of the NHL: No Respect..

Yes Sarge, Chris Bouque gave his verbal intent to them last year I believe.....
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:21 PM

I :) :) :) hehe
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:25 PM

I <3 Jay Pandolfo!

My Pando jersey came in about a week ago, it's BEAUTIFUL!!! :) :) :) hehe

I'm jealous RD....
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:28 PM

I'm just excited because it's my first authentic jersey, plus he's one of my favorite players on the team. (he became the 'underdog' favorite for me in 2000 when we played Detroit and he got that nasty cut on the face...grr don't get me started...anyways, I started to love him even more when I got to eat dinner with him at the DFC Dinner in 2000-01)
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:37 PM

I'm just excited because it's my first authentic jersey, plus he's one of my favorite players on the team. (he became the 'underdog' favorite for me in 2000 when we played Detroit and he got that nasty cut on the face...grr don't get me started...anyways, I started to love him even more when I got to eat dinner with him at the DFC Dinner in 2000-01)

that's right, RD, you did get to sit next to him, didn't you?

I don't recall all the details though, I remember there was a thread about it in the DFC forum, did you get pics?
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:39 PM

Yeah I have pics...not sure if they're still on the comp, or even if the dinky website I made for it is still up - let me look.
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:40 PM

twisted:

#4 Don't pick on Dew, because she is more on target than you want to believe. If he truly wanted to win a cup all those years, he would have left when he turned 31.


Like Kariya? :lol: (Well actually Kariya couldn't even wait that long :P ) Oh wait he doesn't want to win, that's just a convenient excuse to be with Teemu :evil:

Frankly I don't care if a guy wants to get a ring somewhere else at the end of his career so long as he contributes his fair share and is not just there to be carried to a ring. (like say what Karl Malone is trying to do with the Lakers now...or Clemens in 2000 when he really didn't contribute all that much to get his ring)
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:44 PM

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#4 Don't pick on Dew, because she is more on target than you want to believe. If he truly wanted to win a cup all those years, he would have left when he turned 31.


Like Kariya? :lol: (Well actually Kariya couldn't even wait that long :P ) Oh wait he doesn't want to win, that's just a convenient excuse to be with Teemu :evil:

Frankly I don't care if a guy wants to get a ring somewhere else at the end of his career so long as he contributes his fair share and is not just there to be carried to a ring. (like say what Karl Malone is trying to do with the Lakers now...or Clemens in 2000 when he really didn't contribute all that much to get his ring)

actually, yeah, like Kariya, got a taste, realized the Duckies didn't have what it took and moved on... Bourque could have left after 1990, but he CHOSE to stay and LOSE every freaking year :saddevil:
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:49 PM

F*CK LOYALTY

Avs fan, eh? (PatrickRoy33)

As a Devils fan, I'd have to disagree. We have many loyal players that have benefitted in the long run. Stevens, Daneyko, Brodeur, Brylin - all franchise players with their name on the Cup THREE TIMES.

F loyalty? What are you smoking? Just watch one of your favorite players backstab the Avs organization - you won't say that ever again.

We watched Holik stab us in the back. We also saw him eliminated from the playoffs by our hands and, right after the Devils winning the Cup, say, "This was the most painful off-season I have ever been through."

F loyalty? It's good you're not a Devils fan. We believe in loyalty here. We got a squad of loyal players. Do you? I'm not so sure. Sakic and Forsberg, sure, but who knows?

The reason why the Devils have three Cups is because of loyalty and hard work... I hope the Avs players stab their organization in the back just so you can choke on your own words while your team fails.

F loyalty? You're a joke of a hockey fan. Go watch baseball.
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:52 PM

WOW!!! Posted Image I didn't get to read this thread until now... I am so shocked!!!!! And I feel so... violated??

How old is "the SBT" it seems like something very childish to do... like a high school thing.. :lol: hehe example:

Suzie: O Lehla you are so beautiful! And you are my bestest friend in like the whole wide world!!!!!
Lehla: Woo thanks... am I like cooler than Tina-Ann?
Suzie: O def! She's a dirty wh0re and I would like never be friends with her! Ew

(five minutes later)

Suzie: Hi Tinaaaaaaaa, you're so great, you're like my best friend!
TA: I thought Lehla was your best friend, you like were talking to her before!
Suzie: O no, she was talking all this $hit about you before and talking about how you like 'get around' ya kno, but I was like "That is so not cool" and she had like no response to that! Totally!

umm... kinda like that :D

Anyways... reading the thread again....

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:52 PM

"I want to play the rest of my career in New Jersey." - Pascal Rheaume

"I want to stay in New Jersey." - Jeff Friesen

"I never thought of playing anywhere else but New Jersey." - Ken Daneyko

Anybody else have any gems from the squad?
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 09:57 PM

OK that's it, I swore I wouldn't get started on the whole Bourque thing, but now I have had my fill:

#1, you are an Avs fan,  correct? Then please do NOT speak for us Bruins fans.  I have lived and breathed the Bruins since my youth, and have lived here all my life. Ray made the decision to stay here out of loyalty... to his family. He did not want to move them, plus Beantown is 5 1/2 hours away from his hometown in Quebec.


I've NEVER once spoken for Bruins fans....

#2, Ray told Harry Sinden to F off and hung up on him because he DID NOT want to go to Colorado. He wanted to go to Philly. End of story. That is fact.


Never disputed that, but there was no way he was trading Ray to a confrence rival.

#3, The B's NEVER broke their Loyalty to Ray.  Ray knew after the 1990 finals they weren't ever going to win. Please, they traded Oates to shut him up after he commented on how the organization would never win anything.  And this is the only time I will ever defend that bulbous nosed arse: Harry did not want to trade Ray, but when Ray asked for the trade, he obliged and also obliged Ray's wish to go to a SC contender. There were better offers to be had than what was offered at the time (only Rolston actually performed to potential, Pahlsson was traded to the Ducks for Nazarov, who was then turned into a 4th rounder)  So essentially, Harry granted Ray's wish for Rolston, who at the time wasn't exactly the best return he could have gotten.


The B's broke their loyalty to Ray, when he was re-signed, and he agreed to a contract that would keep him with the B's, PAST his eligibility for free agency, on Harrys word that they'd make a drive for the Cup. Ray asked for the trade because the Bruins have gone nowhere, and he saw they had no dedication to winning.

#4 Don't pick on Dew, because she is more on target than you want to believe. If he truly wanted to win a cup all those years, he would have left when he turned 31.  She is right on target with how he was endeared by the Bruins and us fans.  He DID turn his back on us, but he now gets to live with an emptiness that is his victory.... As Adam Oates said best: He may have a SC ring, but every time he looks at it, it will have the wrong team's name on it.


As I mentioned before he was UNDER CONTRACT to the Bruins during that time period. I know exactly how the Bruins fans must feel....but don't think for a SECOND, that he wouldn't do it again. He didn't turn his back on you the fans, he turned it on the Bruins who didn't live up to their promise. I'm sure he isn't having a hard time coping with his win with the Avalanche....when he looks at that ring, he'll remember that an entire team kept a promise to him in one season, that an entire franchise couldn't even give him a sniff of in the recent 10 years of his career in Boston....

#5 Your organization should be ashamed that they retired #77 before #19, #33 #21. To retire a players number after 1 year and 1 month of service is an outrage.


It was one of the rarest circumstances in NHL history....and should be remembered that way....


And also, as much as I still truly love Ray for all he has done for the community here and for his 21 years as a Bruin, the Devils WERE the better team that year, and deserved to win.


That I have to disagree with you on, just like the Devils beat the Ducks this past season, thats the same way it was for the Avalanche, Roy showed up for those last 2 games, and made a statement....the best team MIGHT not have won, thats debatable, but the most dominant money player showed up when the chips were down and the house was on the line....

ESPN had a love affair with the Avs that year, from Bourque right on to the Drury/Travis Roy fiasco. Yes, that's right, I said fiasco, because for anyone who was truly paying attention to it all, the team captain that fateful evening that Travis broke his neck was none other than current Devil Jay Pandolfo, who held his team together and carried Travis' practice jersey on to the ice EVERY SINGLE DAY.  That takes more character, compassion and leadership than Drury could ever muster.


I can't disagree there, see my other posts about uselESPN, they have no business doing hockey....
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 10:10 PM

F*CK LOYALTY

Avs fan, eh? (PatrickRoy33)


As a Devils fan, I'd have to disagree.  We have many loyal players that have benefitted in the long run.  Stevens, Daneyko, Brodeur, Brylin - all franchise players with their name on the Cup THREE TIMES.


As do the Avalanche, Roy, Sakic, Foote, Forsberg etc. But only 2 times....so far.

F loyalty?  What are you smoking?  Just watch one of your favorite players backstab the Avs organization - you won't say that ever again.


I expect it, but I know the loyalty to the Avalanche is based on winning, and thats what entices the players to want to play there, nothing more....

We watched Holik stab us in the back.  We also saw him eliminated from the playoffs by our hands and, right after the Devils winning the Cup, say, "This was the most painful off-season I have ever been through."


When did the Rangers make it to the playoffs? or did you mean the playoff race? Some players get greedy and learn the hard way....

F loyalty?  It's good you're not a Devils fan.  We believe in loyalty here.  We got a squad of loyal players.  Do you?  I'm not so sure.  Sakic and Forsberg, sure, but who knows?


I appreciate the Devils, as they're the only team that can compete with the West, and yes, what Lou has done should be the MODEL all teams are made after....but yes, the Avalanche have loyalty....the Avalanche fans felt the same way about de Vries leaving as you Devils fans felt about Holik, but like Holik, he'll learn the hard way....and when it comes down to it, it's better to rid your team of the unloyal money seekers and keep the ones who play with heart.

The reason why the Devils have three Cups is because of loyalty and hard work... I hope the Avs players stab their organization in the back just so you can choke on your own words while your team fails.


The Avalanche have 9 division titles, and 2 Cups, you'd like the Avalanche to choke, but take a look at history, they've taken care of their players and their fans....btw, don't hold your breath on someone stabbing the Avs in the back....like I said, if it happens, it happens, it's better team without'em then....

F loyalty?  You're a joke of a hockey fan.  Go watch baseball.


Your argument was good to respond to, right up until you slipped on that Pamper and made that comment....stop being bitter because of some other teams success....
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 10:10 PM

For the most part I think whoever WINS the cup deserves to win it. The Avs winning didn't bother me so much as the Devils losing. If they Avs win this year I'll think it's lame. Buying a team is lame. A bought team is not worth rooting for in my book...not that there's anything wrong with anyone else doing so... I'd think it was cool if teh Devils became ALL-STAR and won teh cup...but you can't get attached to mercenary players -- they're guns for hire...and that doesn't make for long term enjoyment -- then you love a sweater and a rink is all...that's sad.

I'm happy a great defenseman finally got his name on the cup -- but I also thought it was kind of pathetic -- blame Boston Blame Bourke -- it still doesn't change the fact that I pitied him hoisting it. And teh Avs retiring his number ... well it's in keeping with the whole buying a team line of thought --- nahhh - it's bullsh!t plain and simple that's a turd hangin from your rafters that even i can't polish my Avalanche fan friend...
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