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#41 Sarge18

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:20 PM

i agree that eller is expendable and that st. louis certainly has good reason to make this deal. i would just rather gamble on a josh harding or someone like that. that player may not have been available but there's usually some goaltending lurking out there for cheap.



Harding may have been easier to pry away, the price certainly would have been lower, but he also comes with a worse track record at the same age. Now its up to management to evaluate whether Harding's save % in two of his three years under .910 is due to him or due to the quality of chances that the Wild were giving up over that time.

If im still in the market for a goalie I suppose he is the top choice for price controlled guys. He has nhl games under his belt as opposed to someone like Cory Schnieder who is a year behind with only 5 nhl games to his name.

But if your a team with playoff aspirations as the Blues are, I think you look towards the guy with more experience to help carry you there. Now that Halak is gone it certainly leaves the rest of the teams with goaltending dilemmas in a tough spot. The Sharks, Flyers, and Sens are all left with the leftovers.
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"Jay Pandolfo's last game at Boston University was against the Wolverines," Madden said. "My job was to cover his line. Jay had scored something like 30 goals in 30 games that season. And that was his 31st game. Guess what happened?"

"We always joke about it now," Madden said. "Jay tells me: 'You shut me down that game and you've been shutting me down ever since. The only problem is, now you're playing with me. ' "

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:26 PM

Another quick thought. Perhaps the Habs salary situation dictated that they couldnt take a roster player back. They have to sign or replace Plekanec, and resign price which will eat up a large chunk of the available cap space. Leaves them 6 spots after that to be filled with cheap contracts.
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"Jay Pandolfo's last game at Boston University was against the Wolverines," Madden said. "My job was to cover his line. Jay had scored something like 30 goals in 30 games that season. And that was his 31st game. Guess what happened?"

"We always joke about it now," Madden said. "Jay tells me: 'You shut me down that game and you've been shutting me down ever since. The only problem is, now you're playing with me. ' "

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:28 PM

Carey Price must be suicidal today.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:32 PM

Another quick thought. Perhaps the Habs salary situation dictated that they couldnt take a roster player back. They have to sign or replace Plekanec, and resign price which will eat up a large chunk of the available cap space. Leaves them 6 spots after that to be filled with cheap contracts.


they wouldn't want a big roster player back, certainly. all they have to do is sign price cheap for one year and wait for that hamrlik contract to expire. then hopefully (for them) re-sign markov. if they do this, they can still afford plekanec.

i doubt someone like giroux or van riemsdyk was available.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:38 PM

they wouldn't want a big roster player back, certainly. all they have to do is sign price cheap for one year and wait for that hamrlik contract to expire. then hopefully (for them) re-sign markov. if they do this, they can still afford plekanec.

i doubt someone like giroux or van riemsdyk was available.


Price made 2.2m last year, I doubt he is looking at a pay cut. But he is the only RFA that made over 1m last year. Guys like Lapierre and Pyatt will not command much more than they are already making.

I agree, no way the Flyers moved someone like JVR or Giroux, they are far to valuable given their age and salary level vs production.
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"Jay Pandolfo's last game at Boston University was against the Wolverines," Madden said. "My job was to cover his line. Jay had scored something like 30 goals in 30 games that season. And that was his 31st game. Guess what happened?"

"We always joke about it now," Madden said. "Jay tells me: 'You shut me down that game and you've been shutting me down ever since. The only problem is, now you're playing with me. ' "

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:50 PM

what a great way to say thank you to a guy who carried you on his back; send his ass to the sh!ttiest city in USA.



I was unaware the blues now play in Youngstown Ohio.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:51 PM

The elephant in this room is... where is Halak's head at? If he's thinking of leaving the league, and the Habs would have a better sense of this than anyone else, they made out like bandits. Especially when they trade him somewhere "not so attractive."

and Hudler sets precendence for arbitration rights meaning nothing re: a playing packing his bags.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:52 PM

I don't think this is a good trade for Montreal, but it seems that they have basically conceded they won't sign Plekanec either. On Twitter AproBasu, Gautier said : "We think Lars Eller is very close to the NHL and he can help in the success of the Mtl Canadiens as of next season".

They (Montreal) never talked contract with Halak, and Price almost certainly won't equal Halak's postseason spectacle. They are setting themsleves up for deep dissapointment I think. I know a few Canadiens fans, and I feel bad for them today.



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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:54 PM

For some reason I think this is going to be looked back on as a bad deal for Montreal and a great move for St. Louis. Halak wasn't amazing, but Price didn't seem much better to me.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:07 PM

what a great way to say thank you to a guy who carried you on his back; send his ass to the sh!ttiest city in USA.


He wasn't traded to Philly. :evil:
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:10 PM

He wasn't traded to Philly. Posted Image


D'oh! LOL
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:16 PM

The elephant in this room is... where is Halak's head at? If he's thinking of leaving the league, and the Habs would have a better sense of this than anyone else, they made out like bandits. Especially when they trade him somewhere "not so attractive."

and Hudler sets precendence for arbitration rights meaning nothing re: a playing packing his bags.


i doubt very much that he is thinking about leaving the NHL. according to TSN, they never even talked to halak about a new contract.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:15 PM

Most days Montreal is a real head scratcher.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:41 PM

Either they're really, really dumb for trading a guy who was awesome in the playoffs, or they're smart enough to know that the butterfly and gigantic pads have diluted the position to the point where goalies are a dime a dozen (check out who was between the pipes for this year's Finals) and trade while his value is at its highest.

Boom! Nail on head. Thread over.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:50 PM

It's going to cost 4 Mil to sign him, that was likely a large factor in the decision as well. Still, Price isn't the answer up there, and won't become the answer either.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 06:02 PM

Say what you will about the lessening importance of the goaltender position in the NHL, but the Habs may have traded a star for peanuts. We may be talking about this one 10 years from now in the same way we talk about Neely-Pederson and other lopsided trades.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 06:02 PM

what a great way to say thank you to a guy who carried you on his back; send his ass to the sh!ttiest city in USA.


He's going to St Louis, not New York.........
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 06:32 PM

He's going to St Louis, not New York.........


Oh shut the fvck up already with your nonsense. You may become the first person I will have ever put on ignore here.
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#59 David Puddy

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 06:38 PM

He's going to St Louis, not New York.........


Seriously? You're making a joke that two people already made?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 06:47 PM

The Colorado Avalanche sent the rights to forward T.J. Hensick to the St. Louis Blues on Thursday in exchange for the rights to forward Julian Talbot.
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