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#5761 Colin226

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

Great job, and approprite!


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

Anyone think the court hearings will be open to the public!?!?!
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:04 PM

Exactly what rule are we breaking?
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:05 PM

Exactly what rule are we breaking?


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:05 PM

Exactly what rule are we breaking?


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:05 PM

Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:06 PM

Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?


i haven't checked it, but it doesn't violate anything i know of.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:06 PM

I would guess the league would win if this went to court because the league is given the power to be the arbiter on whether contracts are acceptable or not, they don't really need a reason other than feeling the contract isn't in the spirit of the salary cap.

Saying that, I'm guessing this'll just be some pretty easy fix that both sides negotiate about and this gets fixed up in a day or two.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:06 PM

If this rejection stands, the Islanders should ask the NHL to void the DiPietro contract. :D
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:07 PM

Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?


Lou knows the CBA inside and out.. No way he would have done this knowing he was breaking a rule, AND no way he did this without planning a course of action should it get vetoed

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

Wow...I mean right after the press conference? You know Lou was caught off guard by this


Someone's going to pay and isn't going to be Lou or Kovy. God this league is just run by morons, isn't it?

If this rejection stands, the Islanders should ask the NHL to void the DiPietro contract. :D


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:07 PM

Exactly what rule are we breaking?


CBA 26.3 deals with circumventing the provisions of the CBA.

26.3 Circumventions.
(a) No Club or Club Actor, directly or indirectly, may: (i) enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:07 PM

I would guess the league would win if this went to court because the league is given the power to be the arbiter on whether contracts are acceptable or not, they don't really need a reason other than feeling the contract isn't in the spirit of the salary cap.

Saying that, I'm guessing this'll just be some pretty easy fix that both sides negotiate about and this gets fixed up in a day or two.


Is that clause actually in the CBA like the MLB's best interests of baseball clause or just thought about? They can't just say. If there's precedent, we win
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:07 PM

Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?


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So, CBA 26.3 talks about "circumventing" the CBA. But is the "circumvention" itself written out?


who knows?
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

Exactly what rule are we breaking?


Dunno. But ironically, Bettman just invalidated the entire CBA by rejecting this contract.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:09 PM

Is that clause actually in the CBA like the MLB's best interests of baseball clause or just thought about? They can't just say. If there's precedent, we win


Ya, it's written out. The league decides if you're doing something that defeats the cap.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:09 PM

CBA 26.3 deals with circumventing the provisions of the CBA.


After reading that clause, I am confident that this contract be approved.

Unless the NHL finds clear evidence that Kovy does not plan to play out his contract *and that the Devils knew that when negotiating* this, by rule, is not cap circumvention.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:10 PM

fvck the NHL...
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:10 PM

Someone's going to pay and isn't going to be Lou or Kovy. God this league is just run by morons, isn't it?


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:11 PM

After reading that clause, I am confident that this contract be approved.

Unless the NHL finds clear evidence that Kovy does not plan to play out his contract *and that the Devils knew that when negotiating* this, by rule, is not cap circumvention.


but then why can't philadelphia go and sign jeff carter to a 23 year 92 million dollar deal under the same logic. there has to be some kind of control, and the nhl is deciding that here is where it stops. i think it's pretty lol of them to decide that now's the time, but lou would be better served just renegotiating the deal slightly.
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