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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:59 PM

this is actually pretty funny


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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:00 AM

From everything we hear, the league's view is that neither the Devils nor Kovalchuk believe that he'll play of the life of the contract. Tweaking numbers here and there won't change that. You either have to make the deal a few years shorter, or perhaps up the money paid in the last few years of the deal.

You can't up the money in the last few years of the deal without upping the cap hit significantly.

Of course you can't take money away from the early years and add it to the later years because that may very well be money Kovy will never make.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:01 AM

god im so happy this happened to us now
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:05 AM

From everything we hear, the league's view is that neither the Devils nor Kovalchuk believe that he'll play of the life of the contract. Tweaking numbers here and there won't change that. You either have to make the deal a few years shorter, or perhaps up the money paid in the last few years of the deal.

Uping the money in the later years doesn't say he's going to play. If it's a case of believing he won't play, your first solution would be the only possible one.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:06 AM

because there are drops in the pronger, luongo, and savard contracts that are similar, so that cannot be the issue.


Or there's the simplest explanation that Bettman/NHL are completely full of sh*t, and there is absolutely no MEANINGFUL distinction between Kovalchuk's deal, and any of the rest.

And do you honestly believe that the league would have rejected the reported 15 year $80 million deal that the Kings had on the table. (To answer you ahead of time, the extra two years is a meaningless distinction).

I'm sorry, I've never been one to buy into conspiracies, but this absolutely wreaks of vendetta from the league. If this deal is done by any team that the league likes seeing on tv, there would be no issue.

And the NHL wonders why it isn't taken seriously.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:06 AM

god im so happy this happened to us now


seriously, friggen late night on a week night. and i actually have to go to work tomorrow....er.... this morning..... :doh1:
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:07 AM

Uping the money in the later years doesn't say he's going to play. If it's a case of believing he won't play, your first solution would be the only possible one.


Upping the money at the end of the deal gives more of an incentive for Kovalchuk to play out those remaining years, so maybe it could make difference (if you believe what the league is selling, which I don't).
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:08 AM

And do you honestly believe that the league would have rejected the reported 15 year $80 million deal that the Kings had on the table. (To answer you ahead of time, the extra two years is a meaningless distinction).

I'm sorry, I've never been one to buy into conspiracies, but this absolutely wreaks of vendetta from the league. If this deal is done by any team that the league likes seeing on tv, there would be no issue.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:08 AM

Upping the money at the end of the deal gives more of an incentive for Kovalchuk to play out those remaining years, so maybe it could make difference (if you believe what the league is selling, which I don't).


its their cover for the overall message, "we dont want kovy in jersey. he isnt marketable there. he needs a big city with nothing to overshadow him."
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:09 AM

its their cover for the overall message, "we dont want kovy in jersey. he isnt marketable there. he needs a big city with nothing to overshadow him."

That's not the meassage. He's staying in NJ. The message is "Let's make things as hard as possible for the Devils just to spite them."
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:10 AM

Bite the bullet and take off two years of the contract. 6.8 million cap hit is still a steal considering the cap should be over 75-80 million at the end of this deal.

NHLPA is really going to fight this though.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:12 AM

Bite the bullet and take off two years of the contract. 6.8 million cap hit is still a steal considering the cap should be over 75-80 million at the end of this deal.


if 2 years off and a .8 higher cap hit will do it, then fine

but it will take a lot of pride swallowing on our part to concede to that piece of crap
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:12 AM

Upping the money at the end of the deal gives more of an incentive for Kovalchuk to play out those remaining years, so maybe it could make difference (if you believe what the league is selling, which I don't).

I don't believe in Crosby.....

It does give more incentive for Kovie to play if, and only if, you're taking from the previous years. If the restructured contract has him making the same amount for the first 10 years, there would still be the same amount of incentive as right now.

Just make it $95MM/15 years ($6.3MM annual) and move on....to win the Cup and rub it in (throw it at...perhaps) Bettman's face.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:12 AM

its their cover for the overall message, "we dont want kovy in jersey. he isnt marketable there. he needs a big city with nothing to overshadow him."


It would be pretty ironic if this crap inspired Kovie to begin a freakish conditioning regime, play at an exceptionally high level for the next 17 years, and win 5 or 6 cups, including one in the last year of the deal.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:13 AM

Or there's the simplest explanation that Bettman/NHL are completely full of sh*t, and there is absolutely no MEANINGFUL distinction between Kovalchuk's deal, and any of the rest.

And do you honestly believe that the league would have rejected the reported 15 year $80 million deal that the Kings had on the table. (To answer you ahead of time, the extra two years is a meaningless distinction).

I'm sorry, I've never been one to buy into conspiracies, but this absolutely wreaks of vendetta from the league. If this deal is done by any team that the league likes seeing on tv, there would be no issue.

And the NHL wonders why it isn't taken seriously.



If Pittsburgh gave the same deal, Bettman would be at the press conference in his Pens jersey inappropriately touching Crosby under the table.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:14 AM

its their cover for the overall message, "we dont want kovy in jersey. he isnt marketable there. he needs a big city with nothing to overshadow him."

:lol:

By this, Lou didn't make a mistake by pointing out the league's loophole, he made a mistake by saying Kovy was a piece of the puzzle....Bettman was like NOOOO....he has to be the center of attention, can't market pieces of a puzzle
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:15 AM

Just make it $95MM/15 years ($6.3MM annual) and move on....to win the Cup and rub it in (throw it at...perhaps) Bettman's face.


Or we could find something more fitting to throw in his face... :lol: anyone live near a farm?

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:15 AM

Been meaning to post this, and now seems as good a time as any...


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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:16 AM

Edit. Post makes no sense now because it was moved.

Edited by ben00rs, 21 July 2010 - 01:23 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:19 AM

It would be pretty ironic if this crap inspired Kovie to begin a freakish conditioning regime, play at an exceptionally high level for the next 17 years, and win 5 or 6 cups, including one in the last year of the deal.

LOL.
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