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#6101 dejaentendu2101

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:52 AM

So did Grossman not go on XM this morning?


No he didn't. He wasn't allowed to cause of this situation.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:00 AM

From now on Bettman will officially be known as Buzz Killington.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:09 AM

if they spread the money out a little different. knock off all the .5s at the beginning of the contract and throw them on to the end years, so he's never making less than a million dollars.



I think this is what would happen "after" the NHLPA loses its grievance. Yet I think grievance will carry the day.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:09 AM

Questions, Do you guys think kovy will still sign with us?
And how long do you think this process will last?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:14 AM

Everyone knows what this is really about:

Sid and Bettman were lying in bed Monday night and Bettman told Sid that Kovy was signing with the Devils and Sid was like, "I don't like Ilya, he punked me in my rookie year." So Bettman decided then and there to avenge the smiting of his sweetheart. Anyone got a vid of Kovy punking Crybaby BTW?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:14 AM

I think this is what would happen "after" the NHLPA loses its grievance. Yet I think grievance will carry the day.


If they file a grievance it will take longer. They should just rework the deal.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:16 AM

Guys relax... Bettman was doing this to be nice because we needed ammo to get this thread over 300 pages. Once we hit that mark, the contract will be approved!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:18 AM

If they file a grievance it will take longer. They should just rework the deal.



Yea, but reworking the deal means they are basically just giving in to the NHL. I don't see the NHLPA doing that. I would think they would file a grievance just to make a point that they will challenge the decision.


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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:19 AM

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:27 AM

So seriously speaking does this get fast tracked into the courts or arbitration or whatever?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:28 AM

No it wouldn't. This is being based on what is reasonable. A 43 year old is much better at deciding if he can play in a year or 2, at a time almost nobody does, than a 27 year old does. The former case is much more reasonable than the latter.


The controversy is all about the dollars in the final years, not the players actual age.
Similarly if the Islanders, trying to reach the cap floor, offering a player aged 44 an 8-million/year deal to inflate their cap-hit, it too would cause controversy.

Common sense tells me that it is possible, perhaps probable that Ilya will not be playing at 44.
Yet sometimes common sense and the limits of rules are at odds with each other.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:29 AM

I'm interested in whatever DinLA and Sarge have to say about it. They both have been through law school, iirc. Maybe they have a better insight on what might happen if taken to court.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:33 AM

I'm interested in whatever DinLA and Sarge have to say about it. They both have been through law school, iirc. Maybe they have a better insight on what might happen if taken to court.


Unless there is some evidence that the arbitrator's decision was the product of corruption (e.g. the league paid him off to rule in its favor or that the arbitrator is Bettman's wife) a court is not going to overrule the arbitrator's decision. And even if it did, it would in all likelihood go back to just another arbitrator.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:34 AM

the problem is finding an arbitrator. i'd love to use that judge who did the stevens-shanahan thing, if he's still alive. or shayam das, 'cause he has an awesome name, and he's like the ilya kovalchuk of sports arbitrator.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:37 AM

Remember when the NHL suspended Schoenfield without a hearing & Lou then won an injunction in Federal Court because the suspension violated the due process rights of the NHL/NHLPA contract.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:39 AM

Remember when the NHL suspended Schoenfield without a hearing & Lou then won an injunction in Federal Court because the suspension violated the due process rights of the NHL/NHLPA contract.


Yeah, for some reason I thought about that a lot during the Flyers/Devils P/O series.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:42 AM

and we thought this thread was HOF ready...the fun is just starting!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:44 AM

Funny thing is that I was among those who voted that this thread would reach 300-400 posts before his final status was determined. Looks like that might be the case...
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:46 AM

Damn, I'm never going to get any work done.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:46 AM

Somewhere in Newark, an intern is quietly removing all of the jelly from the office fridges.


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