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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:12 PM

Just get this done already!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:12 PM

http://www.hockeybuz...roved/119/29432

"With this deal being shot down for the obvious reason of cap circumvention does it drop the price for Kovalchuk? Does it send a message, a 'warning shot across the bow' to all other GMs and agents not to try this type of deal anymore? I say yes to both questions.

I think Lou did Gary a favour and deliberately went way, waaay over the edge on how this contracts works knowing full well that there was now way it would be approved. There are some rumblings that Lou even told reporters that he didn't think it would be approved.

In one fell swoop Lou may have put an end to these deals before there could be anymore. Furthermore he may have set a precedent and sent a message (via Gary) to any other 'superstar' player or greedy owner to keep your demands in check. "


Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/What-if-Lou-Never-Expected-the-Deal-to-be-Approved/119/29432



Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.

Possibly 95 mil for 15
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

If he droped his price that would be great! :dance:
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/What-if-Lou-Never-Expected-the-Deal-to-be-Approved/119/29432



Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.


Lou would seriously be playing with fire if this was planned to get in the press conference before an official rejection when he knew it was coming ahead of time. If you were Kovalchuk or Grossman would you have any respect or ever want to deal with an organization that acted in bad faith? If there's even a bit of truth to this, don't be shocked if Kovalchuk walks away and if Grossman never does business with Lou again. Not to mention the fact that every free agent you ever want to sign (ahem Parise) would be very releuctant to signsign with the Devils or play for them a day longer than necessary.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:19 PM

could people PLEASE not post hockeybuzz links with the idea that there is anything relevant or sensible being said in there. while lou should have had some idea that the contract might be rejected, i doubt very much that he went ahead with the whole thing on the idea that it would definitely get rejected.

and yes daniel, no free agent will ever sign with new jersey ever.

Edited by Triumph, 21 July 2010 - 12:20 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:21 PM

The issue really in all of this, as it compares to the hossa and luongo contracts, is essentially the devils signed hossa to a 7 year contract worth 7 million at the end. This has never been done before, and never will. the lunogo contracts and hossa contracts include 2-3 years of smaller payments, which is not uncommon for nhl players to sign.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:21 PM

BIG TRADE RUMOR>

Another rumor that just broke is the Rangers are considering trading Marian Gaborik to the LA Kings and signing Kovalchuk. Very interesting rumor indeed. We all remember Gaborik had wanted to play in LA going into last summer's UFA period prior to signing in NY.


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/KingsRangers-Getting-Back-In-On-Kovalchuk-Gaborik-Trade-to-LA-Leafs/1/29435


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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:23 PM

holy crap! i go away for an hour and this thing jumps from 292 pages to 315!!!?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:24 PM

How about we go back to that 7 year 60 million dollar deal?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:24 PM

holy crap! i go away for an hour and this thing jumps from 292 pages to 315!!!?


The "contract reject" thread was merged into this thread... that's why.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:27 PM

The "contract reject" thread was merged into this thread... that's why.



What's the most views ever in a thread?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:28 PM

I agree that Lou wouldn't hold Kovalchuk as some kind of example with no intention of even retaining him. You'd have to have no intention of retaining him to do that to a guy.

If he had anything like that in mind he'd have told Grossman and Ilya - he'd have warned them and probably have had a contingency contract all drafted also with Grossman and Kovalchuk's input. You dont run a guy like that up a flag pole for kicks....


(but then again... maybe Kevin Costner IS Yuri the imbedded KGB agent...)

Edited by Pepperkorn, 21 July 2010 - 12:32 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:29 PM

How about we go back to that 7 year 60 million dollar deal?


Go from 6 mil to 8.8 mil? I can't go for that! No can do!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:31 PM

:doh1: Now Єklund (2.3% accurate) is going to go to town making up all the dumb sh!t he can just to annoy the likes of Amberite and njdevil26!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

I agree that Lou wouldn't hold Kovalchuk as some kind of example with no intention of even retaining him. You'd have to have no intention of retaining him to do that to a guy.

If he had anything like that in mind he'd have told Grossman and Ilya - he'd have warned them and probably have had a contingency contract all drafted also with Grossman and Kovalchuk's input. You dont run a guy like that up a flag pole for kicks....


(but then again... maybe Kevin Costner IS Yuri the imbedded KBG agent...)


Yeah. I wanted to sign this guy but it was really a conspiracy to with the commisioner with kovy as the patsy. This has gone from a hockey topic to a David mMamet movie.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

guys, and i'm not kidding here, what if we rally at championship plaza friday?

its an idea being tossed about on the other thread, but if we do it, i'm suggesting posters, and a lot of red, white and black, obviously no riot.


Why there, and why 2 days from now? We should all be at the NHL HQ rite now demanding Betteman show himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:36 PM

so does this mean we add another week to the days of the kovalchuk fan hostage

NHL declares hypocritical, political war with Kovalchuk rejection
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:38 PM

NHLPA STATEMENT ON KOVALCHUK CONTRACT MATTER TORONTO (July 21, 2010) – The National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) released the following statement today regarding the rejection of Ilya Kovalchuk’s contract with the New Jersey Devils by the National Hockey League (NHL):

"The NHLPA is currently analyzing the basis upon which the NHL rejected the contract between the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk. We are evaluating the options available to us under the terms established in the CBA. The NHLPA will have no further comment at this time." – Jonathan Weatherdon, NHLPA Spokesperson

http://www.nhlpa.com...95-C5B9630D05D9

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:41 PM

aw i missed 300 :[
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