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#6861 Pepperkorn

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

What I really liked about what she said is that the Devils and Kovalchuk can restructure the contract while the NHLPA can still file a grievance. That way taking action will not preclude Kovalchuk playing a full season if he's so inclined. -- and the Devils are equally inclined.

BUT - they might just not have a clue how it all works. :noclue:
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

From msweet's Twitter:

Sportsnet: NHLPA to file grievance over Kovy rejection

A source told sportsnet.ca that the only way a grievance would not be filed was if the Devils and Kovalchuk restructure the deal. However, the source also said that even if the two parties do re-work the contract, the NHLPA may still elect to file a grievance to prevent the league from taking similar action on future deals.


EDIT: OOOPS that's an article from yesterday...

Edited by David Puddy, 24 July 2010 - 02:50 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 03:36 PM

This thread is becoming hilarious. I'm interested to see how much it expands while I'm away next week.

Becoming hilarious? Where've ya been the past 300 pages?
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

Becoming hilarious? Where've ya been the past 300 pages?


this thread will go down in devils history
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 04:22 PM

I jokingly voted the 500+ pages in the poll for how many this thread will get up to before he signs, and I guess technically its still undecided. I never would have thought we would even be this close at 346 pages. I could see us hitting 400 no problem.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 04:26 PM

whatever gets this mess sorted out and Kovy ready to go by the start of the season is fine by me. Would suck if this gets dragged out and he only comes in halfway through.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 04:36 PM

Becoming hilarious? Where've ya been the past 300 pages?


i meant more so than before. like we're all over the freaking place and just going at all angles

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 05:29 PM

whatever gets this mess sorted out and Kovy ready to go by the start of the season is fine by me. Would suck if this gets dragged out and he only comes in halfway through.


I don't think there's any chance that'll happen. Somebody will step in or aside to prevent that. The league will look like a huge joke...oh wait
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 05:37 PM

I think Crosby will eventually grow a pair, or at least be able to succesfully fake it. When Mario was playing he didn't whine a single time, and Gretzky was twice the cry baby Crosby is now back in the day. Crosby will toughen up in the future, I'm certain of that.


I tend to remember it just the opposite. I appreciated Gretzky even more because Mario complained about each and every thing. Especially in the playoffs when he was mugging Johnny Mac and got away with it while if any devil sneezed his way they would get called.


Just my biased opinion though.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 06:12 PM

I'm not sure I understand the logic of taking this long to challenge the NHLs decision, if the NHLPA is so sure they followed the CBA then why take your time to file the grievance? Is there a advantage to this? I thought for sure they would have filed by Friday . Or is the NHLPA doing their own investigation to make sure this is a sure thing?
Lou has so much on his plate, Frasier on the 30th getting below the cap, I would bet Lou just wants this behind him already.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 06:18 PM

I'm not sure I understand the logic of taking this long to challenge the NHLs decision, if the NHLPA is so sure they followed the CBA then why take your time to file the grievance? Is there a advantage to this? I thought for sure they would have filed by Friday . Or is the NHLPA doing their own investigation to make sure this is a sure thing?
Lou has so much on his plate, Frasier on the 30th getting below the cap, I would bet Lou just wants this behind him already.


There's really no advantage either way that I can see, and I wouldn't read too much into it. I would fully expect the NHLPA to take as much time as it can to prepare a case and weigh all of its options.

Still, it's annoying from a fan's point of view.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 06:37 PM

There's really no advantage either way that I can see, and I wouldn't read too much into it. I would fully expect the NHLPA to take as much time as it can to prepare a case and weigh all of its options.

Still, it's annoying from a fan's point of view.


IMO a quick resolution or even filling a grievance would have shown a sign of the NHLPA being sure there has been no CBA violation it also would help the Devils in regards to trades and reducing the cap, they are saying that it could take some time to agree on a arbitrator since there is none in place and both sides need to agree.
Unless they have another contract already to go then I could see the let's make them sweat mentality.
As a fan I believe this is a done deal but then again with all the turns on this roller coaster ride named Kovy who knows!

Edited by Devs1965, 24 July 2010 - 06:38 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 06:59 PM

Can't wait to get this resolved so summer can begin.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 07:04 PM

this thread will go down in devils history



This is thread?
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

I just found out from a memorbilia store that if you want Kovalchuk to sign autographs at an event or in a store it would cost 20K
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:42 PM

IMO a quick resolution or even filling a grievance would have shown a sign of the NHLPA being sure there has been no CBA violation it also would help the Devils in regards to trades and reducing the cap, they are saying that it could take some time to agree on a arbitrator since there is none in place and both sides need to agree.
Unless they have another contract already to go then I could see the let's make them sweat mentality.
As a fan I believe this is a done deal but then again with all the turns on this roller coaster ride named Kovy who knows!


the NHLPA filing a quick grievance doesnt mean anything. in terms of everything that is stated black & white in the CBA, this contract violates NOTHING.

however, its the vague (key word) "circumvention" clause that is probably why the PA is taking their 5 days.

the Devils are allowed to make trades and sign other players during this time. i also think Kovalchuk wants to be a Devil, regardless of whether he gets this particular contract.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

This is thread?


This is forum.

Take that. :P
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:02 PM

Someone really should print this thread, have Kovy sign it, and then auction it off for charity or something.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:04 PM

I could be wrong since I was young but wasn't he one of the original spokesmen of anti-clutching/grabbing? I remember him bitching every time someone played defense.


I think his complaintrs were more that Gretzky got very preferential treatment from the refs and he didn't. I know a lot of Québécois thought it was because he was French, but Gretzky whined non-stop and did receive preferential treatment. A lot of it is simply reputation though as well - if someone calls you a crybaby once it will last forever.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:04 PM

Someone really should print this thread, have Kovy sign it, and then auction it off for charity or something.

I don't know about that...If Kovy signs it, Ebay might not allow it.
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