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[Legion15]

well if he is serious about being a devil, and wants to prove it's not for the money -at least not totally- then it'd be in his best interest to be prepared to accept a smaller sum, should it come to that. we'd then have proof that he was serious when he said "this is team".

[grcenter47]

i am not worried. i have a feeling he is going to be a Devil

[mmajeski06]

All I'm saying is, this better be official before the Ice Jerseys Summer Sale is over. I want to get my Kovy jersey!
Bettman, not only are you pissing me off, but you are now costing me money...Sh-thead.

Edited by mmajeski06, 25 July 2010 - 12:50 AM.

[mmajeski06]

Because this thread has been lacking this lately. And because there is nothing new going on.

Edited by mmajeski06, 25 July 2010 - 12:59 AM.

[SS-SS]

I don't know about that...If Kovy signs it, Ebay might not allow it.

Find an Arbitor were going the hard way.

[MadDog2020]

I don't know about that...If Kovy signs it, Ebay might not allow it.

Clearly, the signing of a 347-page thread is in violation of the CBA. It's right next to the clause about 17-year contracts.

[NJDevils1214]

Because this thread has been lacking this lately. And because there is nothing new going on.

Love how the Ninja cast no shadow, sexy.

[jim777]

ESPN SportsNation Poll on the Kovalchuk contract... I found it on a Devils Blog

SportsNation Poll Map

Screw ESPN

[Rock]

This from the NY Post:

NHL could fine Devils for Ilya deal

http://www.nypost.co...q39al96Nmvg6d9J

A league source said the NHL is not threatening, but also not dismissing the possibility that the Devils might be liable for a fine of at least $1 million. The fine could go up to $5 million should an arbitrator finds that their $102 million, 17-year contract is indeed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement.

Edited by Rock, 25 July 2010 - 09:47 AM.

[msweet]

This from the NY Post:

NHL could fine Devils for Ilya deal

http://www.nypost.co...q39al96Nmvg6d9J

A league source said the NHL is not threatening, but also not dismissing the possibility that the Devils might be liable for a fine of at least $1 million. The fine could go up to $5 million should an arbitrator finds that their $102 million, 17-year contract is indeed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement.

Legal Maneuvering and posturing. The arbitrator, more than likely, will prevent this from happening in his settlement

[Rock]

This From Brooks - NY Post

Bettman’s Kovalchuk prosecution merely a temper tantrum

http://www.nypost.co...ECwc5Mu0780RP4I

Bettman's ill-advised quest to impose a one-size-fits-all cap onto 30 teams with varying needs and constituencies is in tatters. The Kovalchuk contract, which meets every legal standard outlined in the collective bargaining agreement, is merely the latest example of a powerful team acting creatively in order to keep as much of its personnel intact as possible.

This case isn't about big market vs. small market, not with the Devils ranking between 13th and 16th in league revenues, though that's the umbrella under which the commissioner fights every battle. This one is simply about Bettman stamping his feet in a temper tantrum and using his power to force a moribund NHLPA to gear up and fight a fight it may or may not be prepared to wage.

The NHL hard-cap CBA doesn't necessarily discriminate against big-market clubs, it discriminates against successful clubs. The Devils aren't good because they have a high payroll, they have a high payroll because they've been a standard of excellence since the early '90s. The same applies to franchises like Detroit and Philadelphia, teams with ownerships that desperately want to win.

Edited by Rock, 25 July 2010 - 10:05 AM.

[Daniel]

This From Brooks - NY Post

Bettman’s Kovalchuk prosecution merely a temper tantrum

http://www.nypost.co...ECwc5Mu0780RP4I

Bettman's ill-advised quest to impose a one-size-fits-all cap onto 30 teams with varying needs and constituencies is in tatters. The Kovalchuk contract, which meets every legal standard outlined in the collective bargaining agreement, is merely the latest example of a powerful team acting creatively in order to keep as much of its personnel intact as possible.

This case isn't about big market vs. small market, not with the Devils ranking between 13th and 16th in league revenues, though that's the umbrella under which the commissioner fights every battle. This one is simply about Bettman stamping his feet in a temper tantrum and using his power to force a moribund NHLPA to gear up and fight a fight it may or may not be prepared to wage.

The NHL hard-cap CBA doesn't necessarily discriminate against big-market clubs, it discriminates against successful clubs. The Devils aren't good because they have a high payroll, they have a high payroll because they've been a standard of excellence since the early '90s. The same applies to franchises like Detroit and Philadelphia, teams with ownerships that desperately want to win.

Sometimes children get their way when they have a tempter tantrum. Hopefully this isn't one of those times.

[Rock]

This from Slam Sports:
http://slam.canoe.ca...4/14819231.html

What the Devil was he thinking?


Considering Lamoriello’s close professional relationship with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and his right hand man, Bill Daly, it’s almost impossible to imagine that Lamoriello didn’t know the league would object to the more than $100 million contract. In fact, many believe Lamoriello would have made the league aware of the deal before going public with the details.

Which begs the question: What exactly is Lamoriello’s game here?

[jim777]

This from the NY Post:

NHL could fine Devils for Ilya deal

http://www.nypost.co...q39al96Nmvg6d9J

A league source said the NHL is not threatening, but also not dismissing the possibility that the Devils might be liable for a fine of at least $1 million. The fine could go up to $5 million should an arbitrator finds that their $102 million, 17-year contract is indeed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement.

Legal Maneuvering and posturing. The arbitrator, more than likely, will prevent this from happening in his settlement

Yeah, that's really desperate and low of Bettman. The NHL has a lot to lose here though; if Kovy's contract goes through then anything ecen the slightest bit less will need to be approved simply on Kovy's precedent. Lots of teams might decide to lock up all their talent right now before the new CBA comes in and the NHL wouldn't be able to do anything about it. The whole mess has a lot of repurcussions and it will be really intersting to see how this all plays out.

[jim777]

This from Slam Sports:
http://slam.canoe.ca...4/14819231.html

What the Devil was he thinking?


Considering Lamoriello’s close professional relationship with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and his right hand man, Bill Daly, it’s almost impossible to imagine that Lamoriello didn’t know the league would object to the more than $100 million contract. In fact, many believe Lamoriello would have made the league aware of the deal before going public with the details.

Which begs the question: What exactly is Lamoriello’s game here?

I think the guy is close, but not touching. For example this bit "Lamoriello is a league guy and a loyalist if nothing else" sort of forgets that that "nothing else"he speaks of includes a paid employee opf the New Jersey Devils. I guess "Lamoriello is a New Jersey Devil first, and a league guy and loyalist second" sinks his whole point though.

Well, off to the Flyer's SkateZone for two hours on ice with my son

Edited by jim777, 25 July 2010 - 11:16 AM.

[Chambers Scored Twice]

Had a look and couldn't see that anybody had linked this yet, so here goes.

Decent piece. Nothing really new there, but encouraging to see that not everyone is bashing Lou and the Devils.

John Jasper blog

[Stolen]

Look at the Devils Roster. Kovy is on it. Now look at his contract. Back at the Roster. Kovy is gone. So is the contract. I'm on a horse.

[Devil Dan 56]

Look at the Devils Roster. Kovy is on it. Now look at his contract. Back at the Roster. Kovy is gone. So is the contract. I'm on a horse.

Excellent!

[Martyisth3b3st]

Look at the Devils Roster. Kovy is on it. Now look at his contract. Back at the Roster. Kovy is gone. So is the contract. I'm on a horse.

THAT.

WAS.

AWESOME!

[mmajeski06]

Look at the Devils Roster. Kovy is on it. Now look at his contract. Back at the Roster. Kovy is gone. So is the contract. I'm on a horse.

One of the best posts in this entire thread.