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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:13 PM

They're submitting them to an arbitrator who will decide which arbitrator they should use.


But...but how do we decide on the arbiter for the arbiter, and the arbiter for that decision, and the arbiter for the arbitor for the pizza order, and the arbi..... :headless chicken: :headless chicken: :headless chicken:
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:19 PM

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5363951

Looks like
Out: July 4
In: July 7
Out: July 8
In: July 11? http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5372277



thanks I will update as soon as we fix the editing on the thread ... there is a bug

Good summation, although I think the order should be reversed, so if one were to read if from top to bottom, it would start with the rumor and end with the arbitration.

Also, some quick links to where each milestone began would be excellent. That way, if you want to jump to where the Kovy signing was first announced, you could just get there without slogging through the thread. While I can't do it now, I'll offer to wade through the thread tonight and collect those links for you to add with your divine admin powers.

Let's be fair, an epic thread deserves epic treatment.


AOK...will add them thanks
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

http://twitter.com/w...tus/19601234541

Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb.

Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2)

http://twitter.com/S...content=profile
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:27 PM

http://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/19601234541

Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb.

Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2)

http://twitter.com/S...content=profile


That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:29 PM

http://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/19601234541

Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb.

Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2)


Just got off the phone with Bettman. Let him know I was available.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:31 PM

That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal.


doesn't really make sense to me. for one, the league hasn't needed one for 6 years. two, how does that exactly speed up the process?
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:31 PM

in my opinion the NHL is just doing this to exploit the need for a maximum length on a contract when the CBA is up next year, but if Crosby signed a 35 yr deal it would be perfectly fine
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:40 PM

Just got off the phone with Bettman. Let him know I was available.



Yeah my phone has been ringing off the hook, he won't stop calling me... :blahblah:
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:40 PM

doesn't really make sense to me. for one, the league hasn't needed one for 6 years. two, how does that exactly speed up the process?


Who said anything about speed? I said it's cheaper to use a guy as a one off rather than pay a guy a retainer to do something you almost never use.

The speed of this is almost always fine anyway, since it's almost never used, and we have no idea how much using a 1 off is going to affect the speed now. It looks like both sides are going to try to keep it quick.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:58 PM

This is thread?

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:09 PM

I want to see naked pictures of Scott Stevens... :rant: I read in some comments on one of GW's blogs that some guy didnt' expect everyone to have a tea party on Scott Stevens dick... I wish he hadn't written that. I havent' thought about it in such a long time. He's old now and stuff - but... I still want to see him naked...

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:22 PM

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:44 PM

That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal.


If there is a retainer for a system arbitrator, I imagine it's something negligible from the league's point of view, something like $10k to 20k per year, so it's not a cost issue.

The arbitrator for this, if it's a lawyer in NYC, will cost something like $700 an hour.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:56 PM

I have to say, if we lose, this can get very ugly. Bettman can cause all kinds of very serious damage should the NHL win, and seeing as how he absolutely loves the Devils ( :whistling: ), I have no doubt he will use every one of the abilities given to him under the CBA. He can impose up to a $5M fine on the Devils, which counts against the cap, plus another $1M fine on Kovalchuk. As if that weren't enough, he can also take draft picks away.

Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:10 PM

Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap.


:rimshot:

Sucks that Frolov seems like he is going to the rags. Will be interesting to see what they do to clear the cap space.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:49 PM

Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap.

That 5mil you speak of =Rolston?
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:53 PM

:hail: We should keep this thread open till Kovalchuk retires, maybe we could get 1 million replies! :offtopic:
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:58 PM

That 5mil you speak of =Rolston?

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:19 PM

they are not punished for losing the case. only the player/agent can be fined for the case. I don't even see how they can be punished by the league because it's a non existant incident. they wrote a bad contract and the player/agent went to the PA and complained. the Devils did none of the kind. it's not circumvention if it didn't happen, and the league would have to have an investigation in order to find out if there was some kind of deal under the table that would lead you to believe actual circumvention.

you guys spazz too easily about this stuff, and if TG says they can be punished in the hearing, he's wrong.

if Bettman pushes too hard, he's done... because it will end up in the real courts and he'd be forced to punish other teams. he needs all the votes he can get. let's not forget, he almost lost his job for the head of Texas Motor Speedway following the lockout. and he knows what about what?!

his position is not as strong as it seems. if they were really interested in dropping the hammer, they should have allowed the contract and then investigated it. really, the way I see it, the only realistic way the team can be punished is if the arbitrator rules FOR the PA, not against it.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:51 PM

:rimshot:

Sucks that Frolov seems like he is going to the rags. Will be interesting to see what they do to clear the cap space.

? they have plenty of cap space to sign him, if I recall.
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