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#10041 Triumph

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 11:57 AM

dchesnokov: There is a chance Kovalchuk will start the season in the KHL (Sep 8), but will come back to the NHL when the contract is done.

Next we'll hear "Kovalchuk will play out 2010-2011 season in Russia, and then come back to NHL once contract is finalized later this year." This is not heading in a good direction.


once a player plays a game in another league past the date of the opening of the NHL season, he is ineligible to play in the NHL that season. (nothing you say contradicts this, just mentioning it).

i don't think it makes very much sense for kovalchuk to play in the KHL in september. nor, again, do i think it makes sense for him to play there at all.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:00 PM

dchesnokov A source just told me that in his opinion it is very possible that Kovalchuk will indeed sign in Russia. NHL is blocking his efforts.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: I may seriously have to take a break from the NHL this year.

Edited by Amberite, 26 August 2010 - 12:00 PM.

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#10043 Devs1965

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:02 PM

Bettman also denied the Chicago Blackhawks' recent loaning of Cristobal Huet to a Swiss club was a kind of circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement given Huet's salary comes off the Blackhawks' books and doesn't count against the salary cap. Huet's cap hit this season would have been $5.625 million.

"It's known as cap management," he said.


I really believe Bettman makes these rules as he goes along. Maybe we can get Rolston to play for a team in the international league while he is under contract.. Let's see what Bettman says then I would bet it would not be " well it's known as cap management " he would find a difference because it would help the Devils.

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#10044 Triumph

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

Bettman also denied the Chicago Blackhawks' recent loaning of Cristobal Huet to a Swiss club was a kind of circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement given Huet's salary comes off the Blackhawks' books and doesn't count against the salary cap. Huet's cap hit this season would have been $5.625 million.

"It's known as cap management," he said.


I really believe Bettman makes these rules as he goes along. Maybe we can get Rolston to play for a team in the international league while he is under contract.. Let's see what Bettman says then I would bet it would not be " well it's known as cap management " he would find a difference because it would help the Devils.


remember when the devils did this with vitali vishnevski? probably not.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:07 PM

dchesnokov A source just told me that in his opinion it is very possible that Kovalchuk will indeed sign in Russia. NHL is blocking his efforts.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: I may seriously have to take a break from the NHL this year.



Sounds like more propaganda from Russia to me....
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#10046 Amberite

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:08 PM

If Kovalchuk does indeed sign in Russia, I think things will get pretty ugly between the Devils and the league. I'm sure a lot of fans will be so disgusted that they will take time off from the sport, which will impact the Devils ability to make money. Not to mention the millions lost from potential season ticket sales.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:08 PM

dchesnokov A source just told me that in his opinion it is very possible that Kovalchuk will indeed sign in Russia. NHL is blocking his efforts.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: I may seriously have to take a break from the NHL this year.


OK has this guy really been 100% right about anything?
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

OK has this guy really been 100% right about anything?

If you're asking about his reliability, yes, he is a very reliable source.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

OK has this guy really been 100% right about anything?


I've been following him for the past two months, and everything he says is pretty spot on, especially any news from Russia.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:12 PM

dchesnokov A source just told me that in his opinion it is very possible that Kovalchuk will indeed sign in Russia. NHL is blocking his efforts.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: I may seriously have to take a break from the NHL this year.


I agree how frustrating this is as a fan but all these sources have spewed so much bs. No one knows what is reallly happening, I mean really let's face it LL and JVB have been known to keep things so tight lipped that the CIA would be jealous. Everything could be totally different than what we are reading, everyone just wants to be the first, I will be patient and wait for the truth!
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:12 PM

but kovalchuk probably wouldn't accept this deal. so okay, the deal has to give kovalchuk 13% in the final 4 years, so let's call that 4 3 3 3. with a 15 year, 100 million dollar contract, kovalchuk would have a structure like 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 6 6 6 4 3 3 3. he's not going to be playing those final years, so he probably loses out on at least $6 million, and with any injuries, he could easily lose out on $19 million. plus this deal doesn't make him the highest paid player in the NHL. plus time value of money, etc.


And if he really believes "this is team" he should suck it up. He's not Ovechkin or Crosby, IMO he's not as good as Parise, despite his higher ceiling. He will not win a cup on a mediocre team, and if he plays for a bigger cap hit, this team has the vast potential to be mediocre, even with 2 superstars, for the foreseeable future. We tried to sign a deal that would minimize the cap hit and keep him happy. It didn't work. No one else in the NHL seems to want Kovy, except MAYBE the hapless Isles. He needs to stop making us bid against ourselves if he wants to win, or go to Russia if he wants the money. Something has to give here, and Kovy doesn't seem willing. I'm close to saying good riddance.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:24 PM

God I hate Bettman, I really do.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:40 PM

As per Twitter:

TGfireandice RT @dchesnokov According to @plysenkov who called Kovy's Rus agent,agent confirmed discussions with the KHL but refused to comment further.

Not Good!
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:42 PM

As per Twitter:

TGfireandice RT @dchesnokov According to @plysenkov who called Kovy's Rus agent,agent confirmed discussions with the KHL but refused to comment further.

Not Good!


Any good agent would do their due diligence to find out ANY AND ALL options available to their player. However, I really would be shocked if Kovy played in Russia...
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:42 PM

As per Twitter:

TGfireandice RT @dchesnokov According to @plysenkov who called Kovy's Rus agent,agent confirmed discussions with the KHL but refused to comment further.

Not Good!


Until something is official this is how I feel about all this speculation. :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:43 PM

Guys, let's chill with the Gamebreaker stuff for a while, okay? I turned off his ability to post for now, it'll be up to DevilMinder and/or msweet as to what to do with him going forward.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:45 PM

Guys, let's chill with the Gamebreaker stuff for a while, okay? I turned off his ability to post for now, it'll be up to DevilMinder and/or msweet as to what to do with him going forward.


cough:BAN:cough

The overwhelming evidence has been presented. Not even his own mother would be able to defend his atrocious behavior on here. Combined with 0 worthwhile posts= JUSTIFIED BAN.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:47 PM

Guys, let's chill with the Gamebreaker stuff for a while, okay? I turned off his ability to post for now, it'll be up to DevilMinder and/or msweet as to what to do with him going forward.


I mean honestly he provides no benefit to this board. Nothing but someone that takes shots at people, that's all.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:49 PM

cough:BAN:cough

The overwhelming evidence has been presented. Not even his own mother would be able to defend his atrocious behavior on here. Combined with 0 worthwhile posts= JUSTIFIED BAN.

Trust me, I agree with you, but they're the admins, they'll make the final decision.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:52 PM

the deal could get done september 29th and leave lou enough time.


I agree but how smart would it be to let things wait until then? Even greater chance we'd have to take a bad deal or waive players.



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Edit: Off by one.


Triumph snuck in there and nabbed it.

Guys, let's chill with the Gamebreaker stuff for a while, okay? I turned off his ability to post for now, it'll be up to DevilMinder and/or msweet as to what to do with him going forward.



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