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#10421 jagknife

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:30 PM

if the deal ends up being 15 yrs/$100 million then:

kovy must have a clause in the deal to have a personalized goal song

The goal song must be: My link
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:31 PM

Don't see a problem with the league accepting the 15/100. It all depends on how the remaing 5-years or the back end of this deal is structured. At $6.66 is not bad at all.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:32 PM

it's not the length - it's the fact that kovalchuk is 42 at the end of it, making it unlikely he'll be playing.


True but both Hossa and Luongo go to that age. Definitely weakens NHL's argument at any potential arbitration since they already approved deals going to that age. IMO, the bigger issue is how the money is applied to the back end.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:33 PM

If the final years of the contract are $1.5-2M, and the NTC/NMC was fixed to the NHL's liking, I don't see why the league would reject it, 15 years or not. 42 is a very plausible age for a player to stay active until, and $3-4M is enough of an incentive to keep playing those extra 2 years.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:33 PM

So if Bettman doesn't try to railroad this then what do you think Lou has on him: A live boy or a dead hooker?


he has always been fond of Cindy Crosby and he is a well hmmm what is he again,, ??? I see what your saying...

Edited by Devs1965, 27 August 2010 - 03:33 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:34 PM

Don't see a problem with the league accepting the 15/100. It all depends on how the remaing 5-years or the back end of this deal is structured. At $6.66 is not bad at all.


Bettman should heed this warning

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:34 PM

True but both Hossa and Luongo go to that age. Definitely weakens NHL's argument at any potential arbitration since they already approved deals going to that age. IMO, the bigger issue is how the money is applied to the back end.


bloch's little codicil to his decision basically casts those deals in a poor light and both of them are under investigation.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:35 PM

it's not the length - it's the fact that kovalchuk is 42 at the end of it, making it unlikely he'll be playing.


I don't disagree.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:36 PM

bloch's little codicil to his decision basically casts those deals in a poor light and both of them are under investigation.


Yeah, under investigation. *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:37 PM

I'm a bit skeptical of the 15-100...if that's really the deal then it could have been done six weeks ago without any of this bs hassle. All you would have needed to do was lop off two years of the initial contract. I don't think we really went through six weeks of bs to try to save $666,666 of cap space.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:39 PM

I don't disagree.


not commenting on your post, but your sig:

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:39 PM

if you don't see the league having a problem with a 15/100, you got some pretty good crack. I'd like some. :lol:

if that is the offer, it's a colossal, colossal disappointment and I'll have plenty to say afterwards.

that would almost certainly, 100% be denied. he will not take a yearly salary low enough to make it work.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:41 PM

Well if they do take 15 years then so much for the reports a few days ago that the NHL didn't want anything longer than 13. And if they don't take 15 then they're shown once again to be hypocrites. I think it's more or less riding on the NTC/NMC and the backloaded money since even Bloch admitted he didn't have a problem with a 15-year deal out of hand.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:42 PM

TGfireandice

The terms R close, not exact. RT @krwetzel: @TGfireandice so when ths deal holds, cn Kovy get own goal song from the Iron Maiden Collection?


not to toot my own horn here but TG just RT'd me lol


small victory, simple things make me happy, lol

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:42 PM

Whachu talkin bout Maxpower?!?!
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

if you don't see the league having a problem with a 15/100, you got some pretty good crack. I'd like some. :lol:

if that is the offer, it's a colossal, colossal disappointment and I'll have plenty to say afterwards.

that would almost certainly, 100% be denied. he will not take a yearly salary low enough to make it work.


it'd be interesting if it were a very flat contract. like it went from 8 to 5 or something like that. bloch said himself that a 17 year contract worth 6 million every season would not be a problem.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

if you don't see the league having a problem with a 15/100, you got some pretty good crack. I'd like some. :lol:

if that is the offer, it's a colossal, colossal disappointment and I'll have plenty to say afterwards.

that would almost certainly, 100% be denied. he will not take a yearly salary low enough to make it work.


The years is not the be-all end-all. The league is worried about Kovalchuk playing out his contract, instead of retiring 5 years early. If the deal is structured in a way that alleviates most of that concern (ie, significant money in the later years), then the league has no reason not to accept it.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:45 PM

BREAKING NEWS

kovalchuk to nj is done. E5


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http://goo.gl/yt8i


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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:46 PM

The years is not the be-all end-all. The league is worried about Kovalchuk playing out his contract, instead of retiring 5 years early. If the deal is structured in a way that alleviates most of that concern (ie, significant money in the later years), then the league has no reason not to accept it.


exactly what they needed to fix. get more money in later years so they cant say "it's a retirement contract" again

BREAKING NEWS

kovalchuk to nj is done. E5


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lmao


if i cared more, i'd make fun of him with a mention, but not worth it.

i'm going to follow you once i post this
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:46 PM

I'm a bit skeptical of the 15-100...if that's really the deal then it could have been done six weeks ago without any of this bs hassle. All you would have needed to do was lop off two years of the initial contract. I don't think we really went through six weeks of bs to try to save $666,666 of cap space.


Lou was probably trying to bring the deal down as slowly as possible to keep the cap hit as manageable as possible. Instead of jumping straight to the 13-year/$91M deal spoken of so much around here, it probably went something like this:

Lou: How about $102M over 17 years.
Daly: We already rejected that.
Lou: OK, how about $101.5M over 17 years.
Daly: Come on, man.
Lou: OK, how about $101M over 16.5 years.
Daly: You can't have half-years in contracts.
Lou: OK, how about $101M over 16 years.
Daly: You're breakin' my balls, Lou.
Lou: OK, how about $101M over 16 years.
Daly: You just said that!
Lou: OK, how about $102M over 17 years.
Daly: You're going in the wrong direction there, chief.
Lou: OK, how about $100.5M over 16 years.
Daly: Only Luongo can play til he's 43.
Lou: OK, How about ... hey, that's B.S.!
Daly: Suck it.
Lou: You suck it.
Daly: Do you wanna sign this Kovalchuk guy or what?
Lou: OK, how about $100M over 15 years.
Daly: I don't hate that.
Lou: Suck it.
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