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#121 Neb00rs

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:36 PM

Getting Kovy does not = winning. Especially when you're giving him at least 1/6 of your cap for the next decade. It is insane if your goal is to win but clearly they have other issues in mind.

Of course I agree with this. My only point is that IF they are going to go for Kovy then they're gonna have to throw out an "insane" offer to attract him.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:36 PM

Getting Kovy does not = winning. Especially when you're giving him at least 1/6 of your cap for the next decade. It is insane if your goal is to win but clearly they have other issues in mind.

Is there any player that deserves to get 1/6 of a team's cap?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:39 PM

Is there any player that deserves to get 1/6 of a team's cap?

Deserves ain't got nothing to do with it.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:40 PM

The longer this goes on, the more I feel we should just back out and get someone who would actually like to be here. As much as I want to believe that Kovy is just taking his time, realistically the guy is just chasing the $$$.

Look at Clarkson earlier this week...there's a guy who REALLY wants to be a Devil for his entire career. Players with that type of devotion to a team no longer exist. Those are the guys who put in the extra effort during the playoffs, those are the guys who would do just about anything to win another cup for this team. What we don't need is more guys looking to just cash in on a nice paycheck.

Like I have said before, if Kovy signs here, so be it. But if he goes elsewhere, no tears here.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:43 PM

Deserves ain't got nothing to do with it.

Yeah I realized that...I didn't mean it like that,but I was hoping he'd get me. I meant it like should any team give out 1/6 of his cap to a single player?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:44 PM

Yes the Islanders are interested in Kovy and want to offer him possibly the 10-years $100M, but CMON there is NO WAY Kovy goes to the Islanders and play for a NON contender and in that old dump of a building! LMAO!

Think about it people. Kovy might as well have stayed in Atlanta if that was the case. This is just another bored writer and GM with pipe dreams of thinking of landing the big prize of the UFA. Its NOT going to happen. By Monday or Tuesday we will most likely see....Ilya Kovalchuk to New Jersey! Hopefully.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:44 PM

if Kovy signs here, so be it. But if he goes elsewhere, no tears here.


+1 I have to agree.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

The longer this goes on, the more I feel we should just back out and get someone who would actually like to be here. As much as I want to believe that Kovy is just taking his time, realistically the guy is just chasing the $$$.

Look at Clarkson earlier this week...there's a guy who REALLY wants to be a Devil for his entire career. Players with that type of devotion to a team no longer exist. Those are the guys who put in the extra effort during the playoffs, those are the guys who would do just about anything to win another cup for this team. What we don't need is more guys looking to just cash in on a nice paycheck.

Like I have said before, if Kovy signs here, so be it. But if he goes elsewhere, no tears here.

The second contradicts the first....no?

By that measure, Clarkson doesn't give a fvck about this team

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

if the devils lose out on signing kovy the next best move would be signing Alexander Frolov. he looks to be a good player and it wont kill us cap wise to sign him


why do we need Frolov? we already have 6 top 6 forwards. I don't understand this obsession. go get a PMD somehow, and fill out the D. they have months to make that move. why a panic signing for big money on a dog like Frolov?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:47 PM

The longer this goes on, the more I feel we should just back out and get someone who would actually like to be here.


Mike Mottau? <shudder> As much as I liked Volchenkov I'm still paranoid that while the Isles are announcing the Kovalchuk deal we'll be announcing the return of Mottau and Robbie Nieds.

Yeah I realized that...I didn't mean it like that,but I was hoping he'd get me. I meant it like should any team give out 1/6 of his cap to a single player?


Crosby and Ovechkin, the Pens and Caps would have to do it just because (and even they're getting lower salaries than Kovy assuming he takes this offer). Anyone else - even Zach - that's not in the discussion, not for a successful team.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:49 PM

Yes the Islanders are interested in Kovy and want to offer him possibly the 10-years $100M, but CMON there is NO WAY Kovy goes to the Islanders and play for a NON contender and in that old dump of a building! LMAO!

Think about it people. Kovy might as well have stayed in Atlanta if that was the case. This is just another bored writer and GM with pipe dreams of thinking of landing the big prize of the UFA. Its NOT going to happen. By Monday or Tuesday we will most likely see....Ilya Kovalchuk to New Jersey! Hopefully.

True. And I don't think he goes to the Islanders. But, if he likes living around here and doesn't like any of the offers he's getting from the Devils then there is a chance he signs there. Its a small chance but still a possibility.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:50 PM

By the way, it feels so good to be right.

And even at $10 million per year, it is a great move for the Isles, except for the number of years. It's a very young talented team that is slowly but surely digging out of the mess left by Milbury.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:51 PM

Crosby and Ovechkin, the Pens and Caps would have to do it just because (and even they're getting lower salaries than Kovy assuming he takes this offer). Anyone else - even Zach - that's not in the discussion, not for a successful team.


Read me like an open book. Zach's who I had in mind. Hopefully when his time comes, he won't be asking for 1/8 of the team's cap
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:51 PM

The longer this goes on, the more I feel we should just back out and get someone who would actually like to be here. As much as I want to believe that Kovy is just taking his time, realistically the guy is just chasing the $$$.

Look at Clarkson earlier this week...there's a guy who REALLY wants to be a Devil for his entire career. Players with that type of devotion to a team no longer exist. Those are the guys who put in the extra effort during the playoffs, those are the guys who would do just about anything to win another cup for this team. What we don't need is more guys looking to just cash in on a nice paycheck.

Like I have said before, if Kovy signs here, so be it. But if he goes elsewhere, no tears here.


I too am starting to think he is just trying to make as much as possible at this point. If he wanted to be a Devil he would have to realize that there would be no point to sign here unless he was willing to take an offer that would allow the team to actually be a contender year in and year out. What good is milking NJ and then playing for a team that has to let Parise walk or round out their roster with scrubs. You can't win and get a max deal at the same time, well maybe Crosby can, but that is irrelevant here.

I was optimistic he would sign here under terms that were good for both himself and the franchise but the way this has all transpired leads me to believe there is no chance at this point. So be it I guess.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:52 PM

By the way, it feels so good to be right.

You pulled the trigger a little early there.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:53 PM

Read me like an open book. Zach's who I had in mind. Hopefully when his time comes, he won't be asking for 1/8 of the team's cap


That is why you lock him up long term once it's clear that kovalchuk is out of the picture.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:53 PM

By the way, it feels so good to be right.

And even at $10 million per year, it is a great move for the Isles, except for the number of years. It's a very young talented team that is slowly but surely digging out of the mess left by Milbury.

You're not right until he signs
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:54 PM

Deserves ain't got nothing to do with it.


Nobody got your reference. You happy now, bitch?
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:55 PM

You pulled the trigger a little early there.


Even if he doesn't sign with the Isles, the fact that they've made the biggest offer is enough for me. I said they were a darkhorse, and people laughed at even the suggestion that they would be in the picture at all.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:56 PM

Nobody got your reference. You happy now, bitch?

:D Yup.

Even if he doesn't sign with the Isles, the fact that they've made the biggest offer is enough for me. I said they were a darkhorse, and people laughed at even the suggestion that they would be in the picture at all.

I was just making sure you didn't get some news, kinda scared me. I have to agree actually. Good call. And a month ago none the less. *applause*

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