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[ThreeCups]

I think they have a shot, though it's kind of a long one. First, their defense would have to step up and play closer to last year's level. Outside of the 45-3 Pat loss, even though the D has slipped from last season, they still keep their team in a lot of games. That's huge, considering their offense has been "meh" all season, and that Sanchez's numbers have been headed the wrong way.

These are two big ifs, but IF that D can step it up, and IF Mark Sanchez can pick up his play and resemble the guy who looked like he was taking big steps forward early on, the Jets have a shot, especially if one or more of the teams they're facing comes up with a clunker. Like I said, if the Pats play them I won't be thinking it's an easy win...I'll be nervous...I do respect them.

I think the only AFC team they have a shot of beating is KC. I am still predicting a swift 1 and done for this team. Sanchez is dragging them down and the D has been very suspect at times. No way this team starts out on the road and wins the Super Bowl. If they do, I will be the first to come here and congratulate them on a miraculous run (they would have to knock off some combo of Chiefs, Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts?!? and then the NFC Champion?!?) Like I said before, ain't happening....

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I think the only AFC team they have a shot of beating is KC. I am still predicting a swift 1 and done for this team. Sanchez is dragging them down and the D has been very suspect at times. No way this team starts out on the road and wins the Super Bowl. If they do, I will be the first to come here and congratulate them on a miraculous run (they would have to knock off some combo of Chiefs, Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts?!? and then the NFC Champion?!?) Like I said before, ain't happening....

2007 Giants. No one was giving them much of a chance either. Being on the wrong end of that one, I'll never forget it.

They have beaten the Pats and Steelers, and lost to the Ravens by a single point. So it's not like they COULDN'T beat those teams, though it won't be easy for them.

If they continue playing like they have been of late, yeah, it's hard to buy in. Like I said, they're going to have to step up in a lot of areas, and execute to near perfection...their margin for error is very slim...and they'll have to do it 3 times just to GET to the big game. But I do give them a shot.

[Devils Dose]

I think they have a shot, though it's kind of a long one. First, their defense would have to step up and play closer to last year's level. Outside of the 45-3 Pat loss, even though the D has slipped from last season, they still keep their team in a lot of games. That's huge, considering their offense has been "meh" all season, and that Sanchez's numbers have been headed the wrong way.

I think we're a little bit spoiled by last year, because that run truly came out of nothing. Yes, that team had a better defense, but its offense was very much worse than this year's Jets.

These are two big ifs, but IF that D can step it up, and IF Mark Sanchez can pick up his play and resemble the guy who looked like he was taking big steps forward early on, the Jets have a shot, especially if one or more of the teams they're facing comes up with a clunker. Like I said, if the Pats play them I won't be thinking it's an easy win...I'll be nervous...I do respect them.

I'm going to have to disagree with this. I think that the Pats are the worst possible matchup for the Jets of any of the 11 other teams in the playoffs. Yeah, beating them early in the season was great, but they basically have a new system in NE, and it plays so heavily to this Jets defense's weakness (pressuring a QB without bringing the house), I really don't see what your concern is. Unfortunately, have you checked out what needs to happen for the Jets to get to the AFC Champ. without playing the Pats?
-They need to win this week; Steelers lose this week; Ravens win this week; Jets win first playoff game on road; Steelers (as #6 seed) win first playoff game on road; Jets beat Baltimore in BAL; Steelers beat Pats in Foxboro.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I think we're a little bit spoiled by last year, because that run truly came out of nothing. Yes, that team had a better defense, but its offense was very much worse than this year's Jets.

I think that run definitely jacked up everyone's expectations...that, and the 9-2 start to this season. People were talking home field throughout and Super Bowl before the NE game. This year's Jets have scored 329 points...last year's put up 348...they'll finish with roughly the same amount of PF. I'm guessing the defense probably inflated last year's total somewhat? 17 picks is a lot...I'm guessing some of those had to be pick-6s?

I'm going to have to disagree with this. I think that the Pats are the worst possible matchup for the Jets of any of the 11 other teams in the playoffs. Yeah, beating them early in the season was great, but they basically have a new system in NE, and it plays so heavily to this Jets defense's weakness (pressuring a QB without bringing the house), I really don't see what your concern is. Unfortunately, have you checked out what needs to happen for the Jets to get to the AFC Champ. without playing the Pats?
-They need to win this week; Steelers lose this week; Ravens win this week; Jets win first playoff game on road; Steelers (as #6 seed) win first playoff game on road; Jets beat Baltimore in BAL; Steelers beat Pats in Foxboro.

No, didn't check that out...I'm actually kind of tuned out to the Pats right now, only because I hate the "waiting" part of all of this...Pats won't be playing a meaningful game for quite some time. I just want there to be a concrete opponent to focus on...won't have that until after WC weekend.

Good point re: the Pats post Randy Moss...but they still scare me.

The Jets are a good story right now. They've been a team on the rise and have gained respectability, in spite of some the wackier things that have happened...Tripgate, foot fetishes, etc. They're a team that occasionally teases and shows glimpses of becoming an elite team, but haven't quite gotten there yet. They have an "anything is possible" air about them, in that they could very well go out in their wild-card game, but could shock a team or two in the playoffs as well.

[NJDevs4978]

Actually it's a lot easier than that for the Jets to play the Pats, if the Steelers win their game they win the division and the Jets are locked into the #6 seed. They need a lot to happen to get up to the #5.

Personally I think the only team that really has a shot against NE is Baltimore, if only cause they've played them very well the last two years (punked them in the playoffs last year and almost beat them again this year, both at Foxboro). Pittsburgh always gets punked by the Pats, the Colts just don't have a well-rounded team, and the Jets' defense just isn't up to the task of stopping the 'new' Pats offense. Kansas City would be an intriguing matchup for a number of reasons but as someone else pointed out they haven't exactly had any 'quality' wins.

[Beezer34]

I think the only AFC team they have a shot of beating is KC. I am still predicting a swift 1 and done for this team. Sanchez is dragging them down and the D has been very suspect at times. No way this team starts out on the road and wins the Super Bowl. If they do, I will be the first to come here and congratulate them on a miraculous run.

As the season has progressed, so has the laundry list of *proof stages* from Jet haters far & wide.. in an effort to look for sufficient evidence, to discredit them to the average fan.
"Beat a REAL team, and then I'll give credit" ~ "Make the playoffs, and then I'll give credit" ~ "Get to the AFC Title game again, and then I'll give credit" -etc..

..the reality is, people like you will never give credit to the "things" in your paradigm you have abolished long ago. Your theory is; "I have a foundation in hating this _______, and I must defend it"
You've patterned your concepts on dogmatism, and will not deviate from your framework one bit. Instead.. you'd rather stand there defiantly (even in the face of defeat) and make excuses, to defend your flawed logic.

If the Jets win the Superbowl, I'm sure they'll be 10 reasons of luck & fortune, to 'why it happened'.. as opposed to kudos on skill & ability.

[ThreeCups]

As the season has progressed, so has the laundry list of *proof stages* from Jet haters far & wide.. in an effort to look for sufficient evidence, to discredit them to the average fan.
"Beat a REAL team, and then I'll give credit" ~ "Make the playoffs, and then I'll give credit" ~ "Get to the AFC Title game again, and then I'll give credit" -etc..

..the reality is, people like you will never give credit to the "things" in your paradigm you have abolished long ago. Your theory is; "I have a foundation in hating this _______, and I must defend it"
You've patterned your concepts on dogmatism, and will not deviate from your framework one bit. Instead.. you'd rather stand there defiantly (even in the face of defeat) and make excuses, to defend your flawed logic.

If the Jets win the Superbowl, I'm sure they'll be 10 reasons of luck & fortune, to 'why it happened'.. as opposed to kudos on skill & ability.

Nobody has to "look for sufficient evidence" to discredit the Jets. Look at their season and their games, and any non Jets fan will tell you plain and simple that they are not that good. I will give credit when they win a couple playoff games on the road. But even then, anything short of Super Bowl Champions is and should be a disappointment to Gang Green Nation. I am sure you will do your normal extreme homer/delusional fan spinjob after they are ousted and say "We have so much to be proud of! Back to back playoff appearances! Sanchez improved from last season!" as well as tons of other nonsense. Sprinkle in a couple of emoticons and that will be your post to a T. There is nothing flawed about any logic. The Jets won multiple games against terrible teams by the skin of their teeth. Good/great teams usually do not cut it so close against garbage competition. If the Jets win the Super Bowl by some miracle, I will give them all of the credit in the world. It will take a run similar to the 2007 Giants' run; and the 2007 Giants this Jets team is NOT.

[Jerrydevil]

I think the only AFC team they have a shot of beating is KC. I am still predicting a swift 1 and done for this team.

Big deal. What a bore you are.

[NJDevs4978]

I will give credit when they win a couple playoff games on the road.

So I assume you were throwing them bouquets last year

[Beezer34]

http://www.newyorkje...d0-e722cf5d3e41

*Reporter: "You're so close to 1,000 yards this season. Does that factor into how much playing time you'll get on Sunday?"
*LT: "I'm aware of where I am statistically, but that's not what's important. I came here to win a Championship, not to get 1,000 yards. I've had plenty of 1,000 yard seasons in my career. If I get 1,000 yards this season, but not a Superbowl.. I didn't accomplish anything."

....How can you not love this guy?

Edited by Beezer34, 30 December 2010 - 10:02 PM.

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http://www.newyorkje...d0-e722cf5d3e41

*Reporter: "You're so close to 1,000 yards this season. Does that factor into how much playing time you'll get on Sunday?"
*LT: "I'm aware of where I am statistically, but that's not what's important. I came here to win a Championship, not to get 1,000 yards. I've had plenty of 1,000 yard seasons in my career. If I get 1,000 yards this season, but not a Superbowl.. I didn't accomplish anything."

....How can you not love this guy?

Love that, he has his priorities straight. I hope he saved some of those patented LT bursts and cuts for the playoffs

[Beezer34]

If the Jets win the Super Bowl by some miracle, I will give them all of the credit in the world. It will take a run similar to the 2007 Giants' run; and the 2007 Giants this Jets team is NOT.

..never say never when it comes to the NFL.
In the format of single-game elimination.. anything's possible! The Jets may not be the best team in the tournament.. but it's not always the best team that wins in football. It's a matter of getting hot at the right time.

When the Jets were 4-6 last year in November, few people would've predicted we'd be playing in the Final Four.

[Beezer34]

....take this with a grain of salt..

-Backstory: My neighbor's a well respected journalist who writes for the New York Giants. He's good friends with another well respected journalist who writes for the Jets. I'm withholding their names for the sake of privacy, but this story's 100% legitimate. (and the people that know me on this thread, can back up the credibilty that my neighbor has)
I go outside to smoke a quick cigarette, and he's outside taking out his trash. We meet start talking to wish eachother a Happy New Year, and the conversation goes something like this..

*Him: So I was talking to ______ and he says Jenkins has been rehabbing hard, to try and come back for the playoffs.
*Me: Get the fvck out of here!?
*Him: I'm serious. I just heard it today. It's very touch and go. The Jets are being extremely secretive about it.
*Me: Shutup!
*Him: <<laughs>> Yeah, I thought you'd like that.
*Me: Kris Jenkins!?
*Him: Again, this is all according to ______.
*Me: He's shot though.
*Him: ______ said what he's hearing is, he may not play more than a couple of plays. It'll be like a motivational type thing, but he'll be dressed.
*Me: I thought once you're placed on season ending IR, you can't come back?
*Him: No actually when you're put on IR, you can't come back for the regular season. The post-season's entirely different.

[SS#4-Life]

what teams can the jets end up playing in the 1st round

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

what teams can the jets end up playing in the 1st round

One of Jacksonville, Indianapolis, or Kansas City based on the results of today.

[SS#4-Life]

One of Jacksonville, Indianapolis, or Kansas City based on the results of today.

the jets can beat any one of thoseteams. could be a exciting year 4 u jets fans if u can stay healtyh and get sum luck on the way

[Beezer34]

..it's the 2nd round that scares me, not so much the 1st round.
If we finish with the 6th seed, we'll play New England in the 2nd round, should we advance from the 1st round. If we finish with the 5th seed, we'll play Baltimore in the 2nd round.. with an opportunity to play a HOME playoff game @ New Meadowlands. (if the Steelers & Jets both advance to the AFC Championship)

[SS#4-Life]

..it's the 2nd round that scares me, not so much the 1st round.
If we finish with the 6th seed, we'll play New England in the 2nd round, should we advance from the 1st round. If we finish with the 5th seed, we'll play Baltimore in the 2nd round.. with an opportunity to play a HOME playoff game @ New Meadowlands. (if the Steelers & Jets both advance to the AFC Championship)

thats if you get out of the 1st rd. i said you could beat allthose teams. i didnt say u will

[Beezer34]

...Noteworthy Free Agents (on defense) for 2011..
*Jets UFA's: Shaun Ellis, Trevor Pryce, David Harris, Antonio Cromartie, Jason Taylor, Brodney Pool, Kris Jenkins, & Vernon Gholston.
*NFL UFA's: Ray Edwards, Mathias Kiwanuka, Haloti Ngata, Richard Seymour, Shawne Merriman, Antoine Bethea, and Champ Bailey.

..locked up in Buffalo.

[Beezer34]

thats if you get out of the 1st rd. i said you could beat allthose teams. i didnt say u will

I'm not saying we'll automatically advance from the Wildcard, to the Divisional round. I'm just talking about the Jets chances.
....in the 1st round, against either KC, Indy, or Jacksonville.. I'd give the Jets about 6:1 odds in winning any of those 3 games. In the 2nd round against either Baltimore, NE, or Pittsburgh (though the Jets still have a chance) those odds change dramatically.. you can't say otherwise.

Edited by Beezer34, 02 January 2011 - 12:40 PM.