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#21 Beezer34

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:21 PM

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 09:44 AM

Why do I have Corey Hart's "Sunglasses At Night" whenever I see Sporanno coach?


Most of those Lite Beer commercials suck, but the sunglasses at night/they're playing your song ad hits the mark.

I also think of "Sunglasses at Night" for Sparano. My wife says Bernie from "Weekend at Bernie's."

I also get a Bill Swerski's Superfans vibe from Tony Sparano. They could put Robert Smigel on the sidelines and I couldn't tell the difference.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 10:25 AM

I also think of "Sunglasses at Night" for Sparano. My wife says Bernie from "Weekend at Bernie's."

I also get a Bill Swerski's Superfans vibe from Tony Sparano. They could put Robert Smigel on the sidelines and I couldn't tell the difference.


Sparano's a clown.. plain & simple. A fat-ass feedbag that thinks he's cool, who got semi-fame off the Dolphins 11-5 record in 2008. Take the time to scratch the surface a little, and go check Miami's schedule that year. Of their 11 wins.. only TWO were against teams that had a winning record. (the Jets & NE) 2 fvcking wins!! And then they were one-&-done come playoff time, when the Ravens bitch`slapped them 30-9.
Since that playoff game, they have an overall win\loss record of 9-12. Their core players (Pennington, Taylor, Porter, etc) are all gone. And the wildcat is officially dead!
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 01:35 PM

Lynch traded to Seattle.

Sorry Clown about that guarentee

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 02:54 PM

http://www.nfl.com/n...le=HP_headlines

The heads start rolling in Miami.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 02:55 PM

Sparano's a clown.. plain & simple. A fat-ass feedbag that thinks he's cool

And Rex Ryan is a skinny friendly man that doesn't need attention?
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 05:16 PM

Sparano's a clown.. plain & simple. A fat-ass feedbag that thinks he's cool, who got semi-fame off the Dolphins 11-5 record in 2008. Take the time to scratch the surface a little, and go check Miami's schedule that year. Of their 11 wins.. only TWO were against teams that had a winning record. (the Jets & NE) 2 fvcking wins!! And then they were one-&-done come playoff time, when the Ravens bitch`slapped them 30-9.
Since that playoff game, they have an overall win\loss record of 9-12. Their core players (Pennington, Taylor, Porter, etc) are all gone. And the wildcat is officially dead!


I wonder how bad the 2008 Jets would have gotten their asses kicked with a real schedule, considering they played 14 of the same 16 teams the Dolphins did.

And Rex Ryan is a skinny friendly man that doesn't need attention?


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Posted 06 October 2010 - 12:32 AM

apparently Randy Moss might be going back to the Vikings...that should be interesting
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 06:38 AM

apparently Randy Moss might be going back to the Vikings...that should be interesting


As a Pats fan I would love for this to happen. His first season with the Patriots was phenomenal, but it's been downhill ever since...he's gone back to taking plays off, not trying when he doesn't get enough balls thrown to him...against Miami there was a replay of him not even trying to throw a block when the play called for him to do so. And it's not at all hard to take him out of a game...just be physical with him and he'll disappear...he's not a tough football player and rarely ever has been. It wouldn't surprise me if he started trying again once if he goes to the Vikes, but I feel sorry for them if they sign him to an extension.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 07:05 AM

my money league fantasy team could sure use the boost of Moss wanting to play again I'll say.... but I'm wondering if this is a declining talent issue as much as an attitude one (though you kinda felt the Pats were sending a message Monday Night not throwing him a pass all 2nd half :rant: )

couple of other small releases too... Dwayne Jarrett (remember when he was gonna be the next Steve Smith :unsure: :noclue: ) and Julius Jones' NFL career seems FINALLY over :giggle:
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 07:42 AM

As a Pats fan I would love for this to happen. His first season with the Patriots was phenomenal, but it's been downhill ever since...he's gone back to taking plays off, not trying when he doesn't get enough balls thrown to him...against Miami there was a replay of him not even trying to throw a block when the play called for him to do so. And it's not at all hard to take him out of a game...just be physical with him and he'll disappear...he's not a tough football player and rarely ever has been. It wouldn't surprise me if he started trying again once if he goes to the Vikes, but I feel sorry for them if they sign him to an extension.



I disagree. The threat of Moss makes Welker and Faulk weapons. You can't blame Moss for a deteriorating defense and NO running game since Cory Dillen.

Moss is a leader in the lockerroom. This is Bellichek trying to outsmart himself similiar to what trading Richard Seymour did in destroy the Pats pass rush.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:05 AM

wow. there must be more than meets the eye here. cant believe theyd trade hikm for this late in the year
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:22 AM

I wanted to wait until it became official before saying anything. And now it looks as though it is. http://www.nfl.com/n...le=HP_headlines
..all I can say is; Holy fvcking sh!t.

What the fvck are the Pats thinking?? Unless they have another trade planned for a top WR, this move is absolutely insane imo. I couldn't even believe what I was hearing this morning on WFAN, it shocked me so much. You don't go shake up chemistry on a 3-1 team going into Week 5.. I'm sorry.
Randy Moss is one of the best players on that team, and that's saying alot. His presence opens up so much underneath for others. You know why the league respects Brady's deep ball? Or why Wild`Wes is so hard to cover? Why Revis even got injured this year for that matter? -Randy Moss.
If he does nothing for 60 minutes.. he still commands coverage. Opposing team's defenses, still need to dedicate a player (or two) to Moss, and Moss alone. You know how many teams in the league have more wins than New England? ZERO! This is a quality football team, that could easily be 4-0.. and it aint' because of their defense, I can tell you that. They're winning games because of their offense.. and now they just traded their #1 receiver?! This is a team that, had they not put up 38 points.. may have lost to Buffalo in Week 2. That may have lost to Cincinnati, had they not scored 40 points. Their offense (an offense that lost Faulk & Taylor) is willing them to victory. And now you go and trade your star wide-receiver? :noclue: He has only 9 reception's thus-far, and he still has 3 TD's in 4 games. I just don't understand the logic in this at all.
You want to talk to me about Welker & Woodhead.. bullsh!t. They're both great players, don't get me wrong. But Woodhead doesn't score that touchdown on Monday, if Moss isn't being double-covered. Welker doesn't have 2 TD's in Week 1, if Moss isn't being double-covered.

A quote from a Pats fans, off another message board; "..he's 33 years old. It was time." <--This is perhaps the dumbest comment I have read all day from the New England Loyalist's. But like the old saying goes; *Be careful what you wish for* ..'cause now Randy's gone.. and the excuses go with him.

Moss is a leader in the lockerroom. This is Bellichek trying to outsmart himself similiar to what trading Richard Seymour did in destroy the Pats pass rush.


..or, believing he doesn't need a defensive-coordinator for that matter. Let BB strap the pads on, and go play WR. Because I tell you what, with some of the recent decisions that have been made throughout that organization.. It would not surprise me in the least.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:56 AM

I guess BB is just going to give away the season to the Jets. This was a MAJOR mistake by the Pats.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:00 AM

What are you going to do when a star player wants out and it's affecting his play? Irreconcilable differences.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:01 AM

I guess BB is just going to give away the season to the Jets. This was a MAJOR mistake by the Pats.


..hold that thought Manta, there's still 2 weeks 'till the trade deadline. NE's got 8 draft picks in the first 4 rounds. I smell a deal for Vincent Jackson here. There's NO WAY that organization is stupid enough to trade Randy Moss when they're 3-1.. and be content with only getting a 3rd round draft pick in return.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:22 AM

What are you going to do when a star player wants out and it's affecting his play? Irreconcilable differences.



The star player in question does not want out. He wanted an extension to stay with the Pats. His play hasn't been affected, Moss still draws defenders away from Welker and Hernandez of late and still has a few TD's. Its not his fault special teams killed Miami

..hold that thought Manta, there's still 2 weeks 'till the trade deadline. NE's got 8 draft picks in the first 4 rounds. I smell a deal for Vincent Jackson here. There's NO WAY that organization is stupid enough to trade Randy Moss when they're 3-1.. and be content with only getting a 3rd round draft pick in return.



I thought the deadline for Jackson to play this year had past. They are left with nothing.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:35 AM

I thought the deadline for Jackson to play this year had past. They are left with nothing.


Jackson has to miss some number of games on suspension. Three of them are NFL-imposed, and I think the Chargers imposed three more games on him because he didn't sign his tender. The compromise between the league, the chargers, and the union was that, were he traded in that time frame specified, he would have been eligible to play week 5, effectively cutting out a lot of his suspension time.

Any team that acquires him will have to eat at least a 3 game suspension, but I'm not sure if the "didn't sign suspension" is team or league imposed (meaning that New England could waive the suspension for the non-signing of tender if it's team-imposed.)

And I agree with just about everyone else's sentiment. New England is either planning another move or believes Brandon Tate and Aaron Hernandez can produce what Moss can. Or they're ceding this season as a lost one and will draft ridiculous amounts of players, which is still a huge gamble. I guess their feeling was "well, we're not extending him, so he's not staying, so get what you can for him in a trade."

I just wonder if this is enough to save Minnesota's season. 1-3 is not dead in the NFC, where the two teams above you in the division are 3-1, and one (Bears) is probably spiraling out if Cutler can't play. Even 1-4 is not doomsday, but now we're starting to talk about needing a lot to go right, like the NFC East and West to stay mediocre record-wise.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:54 AM

Jackson has to miss some number of games on suspension. Three of them are NFL-imposed, and I think the Chargers imposed three more games on him because he didn't sign his tender. The compromise between the league, the chargers, and the union was that, were he traded in that time frame specified, he would have been eligible to play week 5, effectively cutting out a lot of his suspension time.

Any team that acquires him will have to eat at least a 3 game suspension, but I'm not sure if the "didn't sign suspension" is team or league imposed (meaning that New England could waive the suspension for the non-signing of tender if it's team-imposed.)

And I agree with just about everyone else's sentiment. New England is either planning another move or believes Brandon Tate and Aaron Hernandez can produce what Moss can. Or they're ceding this season as a lost one and will draft ridiculous amounts of players, which is still a huge gamble. I guess their feeling was "well, we're not extending him, so he's not staying, so get what you can for him in a trade."

I just wonder if this is enough to save Minnesota's season. 1-3 is not dead in the NFC, where the two teams above you in the division are 3-1, and one (Bears) is probably spiraling out if Cutler can't play. Even 1-4 is not doomsday, but now we're starting to talk about needing a lot to go right, like the NFC East and West to stay mediocre record-wise.



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Posted 06 October 2010 - 11:41 AM

To everyone who is questioning the Moss deal, unless you watch the Pats every season, and most of their games (like I do), then it might be hard to understand this deal. Like I said, his first season as a Patriot was truly spectacular...the guy fought for every ball that came his way, and came down with catches that were truly mind-blowing. The last 2+ years, despite some good numbers, he hasn't been that player. He quits on a lot of plays, and there was one game last year in particular where it obvious to everyone he wasn't even trying. He's been in douche-mode since the beginning of the season, when he started pissing and moaning about his contract situation to the press...yes, he's a talent, but he's become more and more of a handful as his Pats career has worn on.

Even though they're 3-1, that defense is a big problem, and though the offense can put up points, they can be shut down by quality defenses (the Jets handled them just fine), so even if they go 10-6 or 11-5 or whatever, I can't see them going that deep into the playoffs. Not sure if the Pats hang on to all of those picks or not, but they need to rebuild this D in the worst way.
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