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#141 MadDog2020

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:59 PM

After reading the post-game quotes from JMac, it definitely sounds as if he decided to sit him out, like a benching, opposed to being hurt or having to deal with a family/off-the-ice issue.

As for the game, well, yuck. Hedberg stunk. Miller was really good. That's about it. The advanced stats (Corsi/Fenwick) don't seem to think they played all that bad; the only players to have a Fenwick of -5 or below were Langenbrunner and Arnott. In fact, the shot sheet looks much, much prettier as a whole tonight than it did the other night in Montreal. However the zone starts sheet has a ton of defensive zone faceoffs, and I don't think that's good.

I just got done reading Johnny Mac's post-game remarks- man. I don't even know what to say.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:02 PM

wtf...kovy better have screwed macleans wife or something. he is moronic
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:15 PM

We keep talking about the players being lazy and this core of players "spitting out" coaches like in the past. I get the feeling the players tried to do something along the lines of a mutiny and JMAC responded with the biggest balls personal statement he had in his arsenal. It's the only thing that makes sense from my perspective: the players saying JMAC can't tell them what they can and can't do, and JMAC scratching the $6.66m cap hit star is his statement of "forget you all, I'll do what I want and here's my proof." It's a balls move on the part of JMAC, and it's going to accomplish one of the following:

1) going to get the whiny complainers to STFU and buy in
2) going to force Lou's hand in a trade
3) going to force Lou's hand in a coach change.

I truthfully hope it's some combination of #1 and #2; I'd love to see some whiny brats shipped out in return for warm bodies that give a sh!t. And I hope the rest buy into what JMAC is selling, because if they don't it's going to be a long season in the cellar.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:18 PM

We got Mair for Leblond... That was a GOOD start in my option. :yea: :yay: :clap: :dance: :evil: :cheers: :koolaid:

We lost a figher, but someone who is much better at moving the puck, and for less money.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:23 PM

We keep talking about the players being lazy and this core of players "spitting out" coaches like in the past. I get the feeling the players tried to do something along the lines of a mutiny and JMAC responded with the biggest balls personal statement he had in his arsenal. It's the only thing that makes sense from my perspective: the players saying JMAC can't tell them what they can and can't do, and JMAC scratching the $6.66m cap hit star is his statement of "forget you all, I'll do what I want and here's my proof." It's a balls move on the part of JMAC, and it's going to accomplish one of the following:

1) going to get the whiny complainers to STFU and buy in
2) going to force Lou's hand in a trade
3) going to force Lou's hand in a coach change.

I truthfully hope it's some combination of #1 and #2; I'd love to see some whiny brats shipped out in return for warm bodies that give a sh!t. And I hope the rest buy into what JMAC is selling, because if they don't it's going to be a long season in the cellar.



I highly doubt this is why kovy was benched.

Maybe Kovy missed or was late to a team meeting. MacLean this was between him and Kovy ONLY. So something that Kovy did or didnt do.

As much as you think this was about langenbrunner, you are probably wrong.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:26 PM

I'm going to try not to think about this team for a while. There are some scary signs of inconsistency with this team right now. Hopefully they can pull this mess together soon.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:32 PM

Someone seriously tell NHL network the Devils do not play in the swamp no longer!!!


also did anyone see this video?

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:32 PM

I just can’t see this as being a simple cut and dry case of JMaC not being happy with Kovy’s play and scratching him.
Its is either Kovy is not listening to the coaching staff , he complained about his role /the system /RW position/ , or there are issues in the locker room where players think that Kovy is getting special treatment.

I can’t see Kovy saying anything negative , he has always given comments to the media that have been nothing but positive about any decisions the coaching staff has assigned him , his role on the RW , the system they are playing , and his linemates…. I just don’t see it coming from him now. His effort has been there and he appears to be following the gameplan that others are playing , he dumps the puck in and chases , not carrying it to much..or at least not as much as he used to in atlanta.

The more I think about it , the more I think that this was a way to send a message to the rest of the team that no matter who you are , no one will receive special treatment and that everyone is seen as an equal.

I want to believe that Kovy also agreed to this and was a part of this decision in an effort to resolve any internal locker room issues.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:47 PM

I see some people don't want to believe Kovalchuk could be at fault. Great way to start a 15-year contract, regardless of who is to blame. What a joke. Lou, get a grip on this!

Edited by Jerrydevil, 23 October 2010 - 10:58 PM.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:49 PM

Man I wish Zubs could finish. I was sitting right next to Miller when he made that toe save on Zubs. He gets so many chances but just doesn't have the hands to finish. Marty's glove save at the end of the 3rd was amazing. Look like his glove hand is getting a bit quicker. Also, ddn't really like the way Moose was laughed off the ice. Kind of dissappointing and what can you really expect when you don't get to play. Probably a bit of nerves and the lack of D in front of him was laughble. Decent crowd inthe lower bowl in the corners/behind the net (assume that was alot of freebie tickets like mine) but the uppers was 1/2-3/4 empty. AH well, hopefully a game vs the Rags will fire the time up.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:51 PM

This team is all different kinds of fvcked right now. I have doubt's about this team pushing .400 at the AS break let alone .500

Talk about going from the high of getting Volchenkov, Kovy, Tallinder, and Arnott during the off-season to going to the low of a bottom feeder team. This sucks bad. Much worse than those early 80's teams. At least those teams didn't have the expectations this talent filled lineup has.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:58 PM

All things considered this moment is beyond ludicrous. You have a rookie coach who just benched your brand new all-star super signing and the players and press don't know anything. Then your team gets blown out 6-1, yea I just don't see this calming down soon.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:01 PM

All things considered this moment is beyond ludicrous. You have a rookie coach who just benched your brand new all-star super signing and the players and press don't know anything. Then your team gets blown out 6-1, yea I just don't see this calming down soon.


If Steinbrenner wasn't dead, I'd think he was behind it all. It's that dysfunctional and nutty.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:03 PM

Let's see how many fans will start dropping off the bandwagon


Have you seen the attendance the last five games? People are already falling off the bandwagon faster than Marty flops to draw goaltender interference calls. If they ever crap the bed on this road trip you're going to start seeing four-digit crowds at the Rock.

If Kovalchuk is scratched again tomorrow, I'll dance a jig naked in the middle of Times Square. Johnny Mac 'aint got balls THAT big.


If Langenbrunner is scratched tomorrow, I may dance that jig. I'm all for benching guys to make a point but it makes us look bad when one guy gets scratched for insubordination then 85% of the team that does play proceeds to quit en masse.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:03 PM

All this aside... watch them WIN tomorrow :lol:

People would die in mass confusion!!
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:05 PM

everytime Tallinder steps onto the ice, all i think is "oh frick" - proved me right with a solid -3 tonight. As much as we complain about Rolston, Tallinder makes Rolston look like a bargain.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:06 PM

If MrtheMike is addressing anyone who posts in here, he can save his breath. Preaching about bandwagon jumping to fans who care enough to contribute to a messageboard is ridiculous.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:08 PM

Man I wish Zubs could finish. I was sitting right next to Miller when he made that toe save on Zubs. He gets so many chances but just doesn't have the hands to finish. Marty's glove save at the end of the 3rd was amazing. Look like his glove hand is getting a bit quicker. Also, ddn't really like the way Moose was laughed off the ice. Kind of dissappointing and what can you really expect when you don't get to play. Probably a bit of nerves and the lack of D in front of him was laughble. Decent crowd inthe lower bowl in the corners/behind the net (assume that was alot of freebie tickets like mine) but the uppers was 1/2-3/4 empty. AH well, hopefully a game vs the Rags will fire the time up.


Dude , the uppers were way fuller than that...now the clubs, not so much.

everytime Tallinder steps onto the ice, all i think is "oh frick" - proved me right with a solid -3 tonight. As much as we complain about Rolston, Tallinder makes Rolston look like a bargain.


He is plain terrible. Period. And I tell you what, what I saw from Volchenkov early on wasn't much better. That Jay Grossman is like a street peddler on Canal street selling knockoff goods.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:08 PM

All this aside... watch them WIN tomorrow :lol:

People would die in mass confusion!!


Yeah, let's see if they hate the Rangers more than each other!
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 11:09 PM

Didn't look too bad tonight, that's gonna happen every now and then but i'm not losing faith!!!!!

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