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#201 Daniel

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:04 PM

Agreed. A top pick would be nice but there are multiple issues with it. First off, the pick may never turn out. It happens. Secondly, the pick, especially if it's on D, will likely not be able to help us for a few seasons.

Never ever should a team lose on purpose. That's bush league bullsh!t It's just not the way things should be done. I rather see the team go on a run and fall short and finish in 9th place instead of watching this garabage that we have been exposed to the first half of this season. This has been trying for every one involved. A complete mess. Respect means a lot and right now this franchise is getting zero of it. They need to get this turned around in the right direction asap.


I'll give people the benefit of the doubt and say no one is talking about losing games on purpose, or configuring the roster in such a way as to lose as many games as possible, see, e.g. Penguins. I think the issue is, the team stinks at least this season and will not make the playoffs, so Lou shouldn't go out of his way to make short term improvements, and should make moves with the future in mind. So it means dumping dead weight that might be better than the what we get in return for the short term (in other words, if the team was still in playoff contention, you wouldn't trade Langs/Clarkson for a draft pick) and perhaps giving the young guys that much more experience for when things do turn around (yes, I know it makes unrestricted free agency come that much more early). Usually, this means that the team will get even worse, which equals high draft pick.

Also, I'm not a scout, but based on the hockey news draft preview, it seems like there's a pretty significant drop off in talent after the 3rd or 4th pick.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:09 PM

Too bad Stevens wont take more of an active coaching role. You think had he been on the staff he would have taken this lacksidasical play? This team needs a Scotty Stevens-like captain that cares enough instead of one that just goes through the motions and complains when things aren't going his way.

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How can Stevens ask these current players to play the game like he did? Andy Green (like Paul Martin) is just not physical, as is Taormina. (they smack players with their European handbags) If we had a decent D corps, this wouldn't have happened.
Sadly, there aren't any in Albany ready for prime time.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:12 PM

christmas came early, now i hope lemaire requests langenbrunner traded for kaberle.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:12 PM

christmas came early, now i hope lemaire requests langenbrunner traded for kaberle.

throw in Rolston
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:13 PM

How can Stevens ask these current players to play the game like he did? Andy Green (like Paul Martin) is just not physical, as is Taormina. (they smack players with their European handbags) If we had a decent D corps, this wouldn't have happened.
Sadly, there aren't any in Albany ready for prime time.


We DO have a decent D. Greene, Taormina, Volchenkov, White, Tallinder are all good players. Its an off season for the whole team. :rolleyes:

Combined they have a total of 26 Goals, 107 Assists, and over all +32 last season.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:16 PM

throw in Rolston


most likely clarkson, he's a darling for toronto. lemaire probably had a condition to get rid of langy to have his own captain, i can't stop smiling.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:23 PM

christmas came early, now i hope lemaire requests langenbrunner traded for kaberle.



most likely clarkson, he's a darling for toronto. lemaire probably had a condition to get rid of langy to have his own captain, i can't stop smiling.


i hope you realize that, even if they could do this capwise, kaberle would be an AWFUL return for langenbrunner. clarkson would be fine because you'd be essentially ridding yourself of the contract.

regardless, toronto wants nothing to do with jamie langenbrunner - he does nothing for what kind of team that are this year. and the leafs have clarkson types so they don't need him.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:25 PM

How can Stevens ask these current players to play the game like he did? Andy Green (like Paul Martin) is just not physical, as is Taormina. (they smack players with their European handbags) If we had a decent D corps, this wouldn't have happened.
Sadly, there aren't any in Albany ready for prime time.


Funny that pretty much the only peaople on the Devils who are tough are from Europe and not North America.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:29 PM

Funny that pretty much the only peaople on the Devils who are tough are from Europe and not North America.


Also considering Greene and Taormina are both from Michigan.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:33 PM

Like I suddenly forgot how soft this team was and how they gave up on JL. What makes management think he's going motivate them this time around?

Here comes the line shuffling, even if they're working. There goes Tedenby's progress too....Bergfors part deux. Fvck Lemaire
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:38 PM

Here comes the line shuffling, even if they're working. There goes Tedenby's progress too....Bergfors part deux. Fvck Lemaire


So the lines have been set how many back to back games this year? Wasn't Bergfors a healthy scratch on saturday?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:41 PM

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:44 PM

A little late imo
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:49 PM

So the lines have been set how many back to back games this year? Wasn't Bergfors a healthy scratch on saturday?

Didn't Kovalchuk score 40+ each year?? Whatever they do in Atlanta is their business but Bergfors has put up more point than our entire roster except Elias (tied with Kovalchuk), only good for 7th in his team but still good. I referred to progress by the way, no matter how well Bergfors played, Lemaire kept moving him arund even to the fourth line, yet he kept Zharkov and his complete lack of offensive production around for a loooong time. I don't hink he likes Swedish players :noclue:

I said even if they work meaning even if the score 10 goals in 3 games, by they 4th they'll be split. This year nothing has worked so why keep them; injuries have forced changes too, so far.

I bet Salmela is super-duper happy too. Here comes even more softness, again.




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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:52 PM

This was long overdue in my opinion. We'll never quite know what happened in the dressing room, what the real problem was. But (i personally don't know lemaire, happened before i really had a chance to follow the devils) maybe that can turn things around. We will see tonight!
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

This is exactly what I wanted for Christmas :yea:
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

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Where have you been ??? Didn't see you posting for a while now.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:57 PM

Damn, there is a good chance this team ends up on a 95 point pace or better with Lemaire to finish this season. Which may take us out of top 5 pick range.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:59 PM

I feel sorry for Mac. If he was coaching last year I have a good hunch we'd be singing his praises as coach of the year.

IMHO it's the team. Maybe Lemaire will turn us around but turn us around to what? Yes we are far from being mathematically eliminated from contention but realistically we would have to win like 10 games and hope everyone else goes on a massive losing streak. I am not saying I don't believe in my team but playoff bound? Gotta take a miracle.

Would the Devils have been like this Lemaire was coach this year? Who knows. It made sense to make Mac coach and if I remember correctly a majority of the fans wanted the move. I do put SOME of the blame on his coaching skills but you honestly cant say it's just him. That's just silly.

Keep him as Assistant coach. He made a fine assistant coach.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:59 PM

Damn, there is a good chance this team ends up on a 95 point pace or better with Lemaire to finish this season. Which may take us out of top 5 pick range. Strome Strome Strome

Even if I think 95 is impossible it still puts you in the playoffs.

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