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#121 CRASHER

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:09 AM

Praise Jesus that Jerry took an OL!!!!!

Saints made out HUGE with Ingram.... loved Reggie Bush tweeting goodbye to New Orleans :lol:

Man Atlanta gave the motherload away yesterday didn't they......
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:29 AM

Praise Jesus that Jerry took an OL!!!!!

Saints made out HUGE with Ingram.... loved Reggie Bush tweeting goodbye to New Orleans :lol:

Man Atlanta gave the motherload away yesterday didn't they......


Read about this draft this morning and Atlanta really F'd up.

next years first round, a second, and two fourths the next two years for a player who had problems catching the ball in college because he was afraid of getting hit?

Great move for Cleveland
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:24 AM

If the draft was still on Saturday, there would be a pick-by-pick commentary on these boards about it.
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 12:02 PM

Read about this draft this morning and Atlanta really F'd up.

next years first round, a second, and two fourths the next two years for a player who had problems catching the ball in college because he was afraid of getting hit?

Great move for Cleveland



I agree. Not only did Atlanta overpay in terms of picks, but they now have the 6th overall pick which means they have to give him big money. There are lot of Free agent WRs available this offseason, all of whom are going to be better than a rookie Julio Jones, and would def want to play opposite Roddy White in Atlanta for less money than they'll give Jones.

I like what I hear about the Jets pick. I don't know enough about the guy really to comment, but it was an area of need at least.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 12:57 PM

Hopefully, we get Chicago's 4th round pick as compensation for last night.

Explanation from Peter King on the RAVENS "passing" on their pick:


Chicago, picking 29th, and Baltimore, at 26, finalized a trade that would have had them switch slots, with the Ravens getting the Bears' fourth-round pick in return. Chicago would take Wisconsin tackle Gabe Carimi, and the Ravens, if Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith was still on the board, would take Smith at 29. With two minutes left in the Ravens' period, the deal was done.

Under NFL rules, each team has to report the trade to NFL draft headquarters at Radio City Music Hall. The Ravens called it in. They assumed Chicago called it in, but due to a miscommunication in the Bears' draft room, no one from Chicago ever called the league. As the clock ticked down to zero, and with Chicago on the phone with Carimi to tell him he was going to be their pick, Baltimore noticed no one at the league had announced the trade and Chicago's pick of Carimi. Meanwhile, Kansas City, with the 27th pick, rushed its card to the desk at Radio City, taking Pittsburgh wideout Jonathan Baldwin.
Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome, on an open line to New York, demanded to know why the trade hadn't gone through. Chicago never called to confirm it, Newsome was told. Baltimore was infuriated. The league didn't allow the trade. The Ravens picked Smith at 27 (not 26; Kansas City was awarded the 26th pick and took Baldwin, because the Chiefs got the pick in before the Ravens did), and the Bears got lucky, getting Carimi at 29.

"Whatever you hear, Baltimore did everything the right way," Bears GM Jerry Angelo told Chicago media. "There were a lot of things happening in the draft room. We were getting a lot of calls, we just ... dropped the ball. I dropped the ball. I can't say anything more than that."

All's well that ends well, you say? Not so fast. Angelo called Baltimore owner Steve Bisciotti to apologize, but Bisciotti wanted the fourth-round pick anyway, claiming it was part of the deal they'd agreed to. In fact, I'm told Bisciotti today will push to get the fourth-round pick, or to make the situation right in some way.

The league is under no obligation to do so, because the trade was never official. And maybe all's fair in love and draft-night trades, but as far as Baltimore's concerned, I don't think this one's over. I think the Ravens will ask the league to award them some compensation from Chicago before the draft resumes at 6 p.m. Eastern today. Stay tuned.


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Posted 29 April 2011 - 04:08 PM

I agree. Not only did Atlanta overpay in terms of picks, but they now have the 6th overall pick which means they have to give him big money.


From what I hear both the union and the owners are actually in agreement on a rookie wage scale, when and if they ever get back to negotiating the CBA.

But even if that were the case, Atlanta still gave up a ****load of assets for a non-sure thing. If they were giving up all that for, say Andre Johnson or even Miles Austin, okay but geez. You only make these kinds of trades on draft day for QB's and pass rushers, not ? WR's.
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:49 PM

no flash from Jerry...an actual solid pick? woohoo! here's hoping for a quality secondary guy tonight and some good OLB picks tomorrow!
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Posted 03 May 2011 - 01:01 PM

no flash from Jerry...an actual solid pick? woohoo! here's hoping for a quality secondary guy tonight and some good OLB picks tomorrow!



From CBS SPORTS:

NFC East

Dallas Cowboys: Grade C

The Cowboys answered one of their primary concerns with the No. 9 overall in USC offensive tackle Tyron Smith. While Smith's athletic upside is limitless, I have reservations about his ability to provide the physicality needed to play at right tackle immediately or transition quickly to the left side -- a position he never started at while at USC. The Cowboys took a similar gamble on pure athleticism in the second round with workout wonder Bruce Carter (who is coming off a torn ACL). When healthy, Carter has shown the speed and explosiveness to be a playmaker in every phase of the game, but his lack of instincts is a concern. One Day Three prospect who could surprise is East Carolina wideout Dwayne Harris. Unlike the Cowboys' first two selections, Harris isn't a phenomenal athlete. He was very productive, however, and is a tough, versatile player who could surprise as a target in the slot. This was a typical Jerry Jones draft -- heavy on flashy athletes, but lacking the game-to-game consistency that translates into NFL victories.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:27 AM

From CBS SPORTS:

NFC East

Dallas Cowboys: Grade C

The Cowboys answered one of their primary concerns with the No. 9 overall in USC offensive tackle Tyron Smith. While Smith's athletic upside is limitless, I have reservations about his ability to provide the physicality needed to play at right tackle immediately or transition quickly to the left side -- a position he never started at while at USC. The Cowboys took a similar gamble on pure athleticism in the second round with workout wonder Bruce Carter (who is coming off a torn ACL). When healthy, Carter has shown the speed and explosiveness to be a playmaker in every phase of the game, but his lack of instincts is a concern. One Day Three prospect who could surprise is East Carolina wideout Dwayne Harris. Unlike the Cowboys' first two selections, Harris isn't a phenomenal athlete. He was very productive, however, and is a tough, versatile player who could surprise as a target in the slot. This was a typical Jerry Jones draft -- heavy on flashy athletes, but lacking the game-to-game consistency that translates into NFL victories.

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yeah, the original post was after the first round...
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Posted 04 May 2011 - 10:58 AM

yeah, the original post was after the first round...


I thought about that after seeing you time post. My bad.
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:23 PM

If this lock out doesn't end in the next week: bye-bye Cable Sports Package.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:15 PM

June 25th at midnight is my deadline for the NFL owners to end this silly strike.

If nothing happens, there is no reason for me to pay for my Sports Package on Cablevision- as there is nothing more barren than the Sports page in July. There is NOTHING to follow.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

I LOVE JAMES HARRISON:

On quarterback Ben Roethlisberger: “Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does.”
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:42 PM

I LOVE JAMES HARRISON:

On quarterback Ben Roethlisberger: “Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does.”


No Ben has two rings and didn't hand the Super Bowl on a Silver Plate to a Saint Nickel Back......

Maybe Harrison and his tin foil curtain should have found a way to stop A-Rod when it counted......
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:29 AM

No Ben has two rings and didn't hand the Super Bowl on a Silver Plate to a Saint Nickel Back......

Maybe Harrison and his tin foil curtain should have found a way to stop A-Rod when it counted......


I loved his comments toward Mendenhall as well!!!!

The only team with the ability to stop the real A-Rod, is the Packers offensive line. They are terrible, yet Rodgers still finds a way. I love Aaron Rodgers.
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:44 AM

Odin be praised.
Possibly Thursday!!!
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 10:41 AM

In the meantime, please enjoy "Field of Dreams 2: The Lockout".

Fileld of Dreams 2

The deleted scenes are better ("I know at any moment Ray Lewis is going to jump out and tackle me.")

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:08 AM

Sounds like today's finally going to be THE DAY, so time to get ready for mass chaos on the level of the first week of UFA in the NHL :P
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:00 AM

Can't wait. The sports hiatus is killing me.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:00 AM

Can't wait. The sports hiatus is killing me.
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